Politics & Stuff

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Helpless? to fight and attack is the solution? u want to tell me that hamas is good for them?!? u want to tell me that hamas is not a terrorist organization?

It's bullshit.

Without Hamas their situation was much better.

I have stayed clear off this discussion because I believe it is pointless, but let's get one thing straight. You keep saying that Hamas fighters hide behind their people and kill their people; like any lie, that statement is short-lived. Does your media tell you how Hamas came to be? Why the Palestinians fight the Israelis? What sense does it make for them to kill their own people and if they do then how come they have the approval of all Palestinians? Have you never asked yourself: what has Israel done to those people that they came to the conclusion that blowing themselves up, which goes against human nature, instinct and morals, is the best thing to do with their lives?

No one knows Hamas and Fateh more than the Lebanese, not even the Israelis and that's because when you threw the Palestinians out of their houses a huge number came to Lebanon to live in temporary encampments (and they still do after 64 years). Armed and funded by Arabic politians who wanted to take advantage of the situation, they gained power and practically ruled Lebanon for years until the civil war here. Fateh and Hamas are mostly uneducated people with weapons. They are corrupt. They steal from their people. In short they are the worst of the Palestinians. However, they are the only thing standing in the way of Israel erasing the last evidence of Palestinians in Palestine. If it weren't for Hama's rockets and your inability to stop them, the assult on Gaza will still be ongoing.

Let me give you an example of what would happen without Hamas: In 1982, when Israel invaded Lebanon and got to the Capital Beirut, a deal was made between Fateh leader Arafat and the Israelis that the Palestinian fighters in Lebanon would leave to Libya and in return Israel would guarantee the safety of the Palestinians in Lebanon. No sooner had the boats left the Israeli army surrounded the Sabra and Shatila encampments, lit it up with flares and guided their allies, the Lebanese fellanges in to kill thousands of defenseless women, children and elderly. That is what would probably happen to the Palestinians now without Hamas.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

man what a story, palestinians killed there own children bravo! I can't believe this shit. i DO feel for you honestly, as a moral human being. I mean true Jews acknowledge that this torture by israel is disgusting, your commiting a holocaust to palestine.

You remind of this girl as norman represents the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5drXEXkf9s

Guy's this is pointless i'm wasting time, read @Peace and @Eviltwinz93 posts people. The response is very good.

You want to tell me that hamas didn't use civilians as a human shield?

And you ignored my post.

There is a big difference, when you try on purpose, to fire your missiles on civilians ( like hamas is doing), and when you are trying to kill hamas people

or to destroy missiles, and because of hamas fire his missiles near innocent people on purpose, u are killing children like u showed.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I think this discussion is super pointless. It aint here and now you will agree. Although I think fAnta, Peace and CHOULO19 are right...

[fAnta 107]

nobody is denying some exist,

Open your eyes and a lot of your questions have been answered by me @CHOULO19 @Eviltwinz93 @Peace.

Theres not much point going on really since your ignoring virtually all the points i made as with everyone else and trying to divert attention and show us hamas videos. to make it worse you say pealtine kill there own children and all these images and stories and stats are lies. i guess living in ignorace is bliss. I do pray to God you change.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Open your eyes and a lot of your questions have been answered by me @CHOULO19 @Eviltwinz93 @Peace.

Theres not much point going on really since your ignoring virtually all the points i made as with everyone else and trying to divert attention and show us hamas videos. to make it worse you say they kill there own people. I do pray to God you change.

And again you are ignored my post:

There is a big difference, when you try on purpose, to fire your missiles on civilians ( like hamas is doing), and when you are trying to kill hamas people

or to destroy missiles, and because of hamas fire his missiles near innocent people on purpose, u are killing children like u showed.

If u are doing things like this on purpose, you are a terrorist organization.

[fAnta 107]

And again you are ignored my post:

There is a big difference, when you try on purpose, to fire your missiles on civilians ( like hamas is doing), and when you are trying to kill hamas people

or to destroy missiles, and because of hamas fire his missiles near innocent people on purpose, u are killing children like u showed.

And again you ignored me, ive answered so many times. you really think israel fire with a mind to keep civillians safe, collateral damge is an excuse but even then they don't even need to say that with the dirty money they give to governments to stay quiet. instead there ministers want more. as has been said israeli interior minister asked for Gaza to be sent back to "sent back to middle ages" and wants a "holocaust". But no they're onlyy accidently killing civillians right? get the fuck outta here. Basically you've given a personal definition of terrorism which israel would fall under.

[Peace. 4,352]

Without Hamas their situation was much better.

In all honesty, without Israel taking their land, palestinians were much better, in the first place...

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

And again you ignored me, ive answered so many times. you really think israel fire with a mind to keep civillians safe, collateral damge is an excuse but even then they don't even need to say that with the dirty money they give to governments to stay quiet. instead there ministers want more. as has been said israeli interior minister asked for Gaza to be sent back to "sent back to middle ages" and wants a "holocaust". But no they're onlyy innocently killing civillians. get the fuck outta here.

It's not an excuse. Israel Really Tries not to kill civilians and just to hit the military goals.

About Our interior minister:

1. he didn't say the word holocaust.

2. About the first part of his words ("sent back to middle ages"): what u wanted from him to say, after a missile killed a whole family?!

3. he can said all what he wants,buy he didn't Determines the decision.

[fAnta 107]

It's not an excuse. Israel Really Tries not to kill civilians and just to hit the military goals.

About Our interior minister:

1. he didn't say the word holocaust.

2. About the first part of his words ("sent back to middle ages"): what u wanted from him to say, after a missile killed a whole family?!

3. he can said all what he wants,buy he didn't Determines the decision.

entire families are killed every day in palestine and then you wonder why hamas retaliates, which is dwarfed by israeli attack. have you not just been a hypocrite saying this is a normal response but when hamas do this it's terrorism. Unbelievable.

Also our BAD Defence Minister Matan Vilnai said he wanted a "bigger holocaust”

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

In all honesty, without Israel taking their land, palestinians were much better, in the first place...

Taking their land? say that to the British mandate, to the UN.

And who said that this land belongs to them? there are many examples that this land is the jewish holy land..

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

entire families are killed every day in palestine and then you wonder why hamas retaliates, which is dwarfed by israeli attack. have you not just been a hypocrite saying this is a normal response but when hamas do this it's terrorism. Unbelievable.

Also our BAD Defence Minister Matan Vilnai said he wanted a "bigger holocaust”

1. Again, we are not killing Civilians on purpose as Hamas do. to do it on purpose, it's a terrorism.

2. What you want to show with this nonsense quotes of people that didn't decide anything?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Taking their land? say that to the British mandate, to the UN.

And who said that this land belongs to them? there are many examples that this land is the jewish holy land..

lol your "Jewish Holy Land" almost ended up in Honduras or Seychelles before Sykes-Picot decided it was in Palestine

[fAnta 107]

i think we all know you must be deluded if you think your not purposely killing as already established. i mean lets take your bombs etc out of it and look at the blockade. If you can't bomb em block all the nessacary supplies, i mean only hamas require nessacities to live right? Im tired of this discussion you've read EVERY SINGLE post through a israeli tinted glass. I have no affinity you do and thats clearly poisoned all of your arguments with all that propaganda. Unlike the French guy @Peace. and Hazard. Ironic isn't it.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

entire families are killed every day in palestine and then you wonder why hamas retaliates, which is dwarfed by israeli attack. have you not just been a hypocrite saying this is a normal response but when hamas do this it's terrorism. Unbelievable.

Also our BAD Defence Minister Matan Vilnai said he wanted a "bigger holocaust”

1 more point about this sentence: To send your own Children to explode himself, it's a Terrorism.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

i think we all know you must be deluded if you think your not purposely killing as already established. i mean lets take your bombs etc out of it and look at the blockade. If you can't bomb em block all the nessacary supplies, i mean only hamas require nessacities to live right? Im tired of this discussion you've read EVERY SINGLE post through a israeli tinted glass. I have no affinity you do and thats clearly poisoned all of your arguments with all that propaganda. Unlike the French guy @Peace. and Hazard. Ironic isn't it.

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