Politics & Stuff

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2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I am not sure a picture of Mohammed getting Butt Fucked is 'racist', or their stuff is racist per se, but it is insensitive to religious people. Some of the stuff they have done about French leaders is equally 'offensive' to the intended targets, and their relatives. It seems no one is off limits.

I just don't see the humour -then again when I was in France their 'humour' appeared either very childish, or too surreal to comprehend

No of course a drawing of Mohammed is not racist, but saying Eylan would become a rapist is. 

Wouldn't say 'no one' is off limits. Remember that in 2009 Hebdo fired an artist for making a drawing about Sarkozi's son marrying a rich Jewish heiress, saying he's converting to Judaism 'for financial reasons'. http://anonhq.com/charlie-hebdo-fired-anti-semitic-cartoonist-ridiculing-judaism-2009/

Most of their work seems aimed at the most vulnerable groups in society and largely it serves to legitimize extreme and offensive opinions about those groups. 

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23 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

No of course a drawing of Mohammed is not racist, but saying Eylan would become a rapist is. 

Wouldn't say 'no one' is off limits. Remember that in 2009 Hebdo fired an artist for making a drawing about Sarkozi's son marrying a rich Jewish heiress, saying he's converting to Judaism 'for financial reasons'. http://anonhq.com/charlie-hebdo-fired-anti-semitic-cartoonist-ridiculing-judaism-2009/

Most of their work seems aimed at the most vulnerable groups in society and largely it serves to legitimize extreme and offensive opinions about those groups. 

I think the cartoon of the drowned toddler alluding to the fact he may become a sex pest/rapists like the ones in Germany is distasteful, but again, wouldn't call it racist or funny.  

The sacking of  the cartoonist for the Jewish cartoon shows the power of the anti-defamation league, and double standards, and who has the real power in societies. Like the Muslim leaders marching in defence of Je Suis Charlie free speech. The same leaders that chop off peoples heads if they say anything critical back in their own countries 

What gets me is the hypocrisy of the whole free speech thing, as Joe Strummer sung in ''Know Your Rights''. ''You have the right to free speech, as long as you're not actually dumb enough to try it''

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7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I think the cartoon of the drowned toddler alluding to the fact he may become a sex pest/rapists like the ones in Germany is distasteful, but again, wouldn't call it racist or funny.  

The sacking of  the cartoonist for the Jewish cartoon shows the power of the anti-defamation league, and double standards, and who has the real power in societies. Like the Muslim leaders marching in defence of Je Suis Charlie free speech. The same leaders that chop off peoples heads if they say anything critical back in their own countries 

What gets me is the hypocrisy of the whole free speech thing, as Joe Strummer sung in ''Know Your Rights''. ''You have the right to free speech, as long as you're not actually dumb enough to try it''

Dunno, to me, they're basically saying that all refugees are rapists, which if not racist is at least Trump-esque which is probably worse.

Certainly, if the past year especially in Europe proved anything yet again, is that you have the freedom of speech to support the mainstream narrative but express anything that opposes that...good luck! 

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7 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Dunno, to me, they're basically saying that all refugees are rapists, which if not racist is at least Trump-esque which is probably worse.

Certainly, if the past year especially in Europe proved anything yet again, is that you have the freedom of speech to support the mainstream narrative but express anything that opposes that...good luck! 

Yup as with the Muslim comedian Dieudonne.

French TV humour tends to be along the lines of 'Monsignor PooPoo goes to the Lavatory' -the sort of thing you find funny when you're five.

On to Trump, that is scary. never thought old Bush baby would become President, more sense in an empty bean can, but its money that talks in the US. After the Primaries, wouldn't surprise me if Trump gets the nomination, becomes President , and Hello Armageddon.

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A little complaint but something that annoyed me. I hate those coffee mugs that say 'White Tears'. Maaaaaan, really? That is pretty racist, I wouldn't drink out of a cup that said 'Black Tears' or 'Yellow Tears', so why the hypocrisy? Why do people have be like this?

Nobody should be reveling in the collective sadness/frustration/crying of an entire race. Schadenfraude for you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHxYEC4zNTU

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Virtual tie in Iowa. Still don't think Bernie could actually win the primaries, but surely this is a big push for him, especially that he's going to win New Hampshire by a landslide. 

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5 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Virtual tie in Iowa. Still don't think Bernie could actually win the primaries, but surely this is a big push for him, especially that he's going to win New Hampshire by a landslide. 

Pretty exciting for him tbh. Cannot have Clinton in office, she's bought by the media and the banks. I would much rather Cruz than Trump win the GOP, but obviously can't stand them both. Sanders is the only one I can stomach.

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27 minutes ago, Kieran. said:

Pretty exciting for him tbh. Cannot have Clinton in office, she's bought by the media and the banks. I would much rather Cruz than Trump win the GOP, but obviously can't stand them both. Sanders is the only one I can stomach.

Sanders is probably the only candidate with some sane policies (tbf, the little I've heard from O'Malley wasn't all bad either) even if he's weak on foreign policies. Hillary you can just tell that there's nothing even remotely principled about what she's saying. 

The GOP is not even a political party at this stage. It's so far off the charts even the 'main stream' establishment wing basically consists of lunatics like Cruz. Trump is clown and what he's saying is beyond idiotic but I would take anyone, including Trump himself over corporate puppet Hillary. It would be a new low electing someone who is a war criminal even before becoming president. 

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Pretty exciting for him tbh. Cannot have Clinton in office, she's bought by the media and the banks. I would much rather Cruz than Trump win the GOP, but obviously can't stand them both. Sanders is the only one I can stomach.

Sanders is probably the only candidate with some sane policies (tbf, the little I've heard from O'Malley wasn't all bad either) even if he's weak on foreign policies. Hillary you can just tell that there's nothing even remotely principled about what she's saying. 

The GOP is not even a political party at this stage. It's so far off the charts even the 'main stream' establishment wing basically consists of lunatics like Cruz. Trump is clown and what he's saying is beyond idiotic but I would take anyone, including Trump himself over corporate puppet Hillary. It would be a new low electing someone who is a war criminal even before becoming president. 

Tbh Trump checks all boxes on the psychopath inventory test, which is scary. If you want the expert in the field, check the articles of Robert Hare.

http://www.hare.org

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23834781

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist

Trump is the fire to the fuse that is the world right now....

Damned, i use the guy as a textbook case in my classes. Scary tbh.

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I don't care for Bernie Sanders but every second, every minute I'd have him as President over the other candidates.

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On Sanders

Immigration

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As president, I will fight for comprehensive immigration reform that provides a roadmap to citizenship for the 11 million aspiring Americans living in this country. But I will not wait for Congress to act. I will take executive action to accomplish what Congress has failed to do and build upon President Obama’s executive orders to unite families.

I don't know what these means for me. I'm a Johnny Foreigner, does this change things for me?

Gun Control

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I will take the following concrete steps to reduce gun violence: strengthen and better enforce the instant background check system; close the gun-show loophole; make 'straw man' purchases a federal crime; ban semi-automatic assault weapons which are designed strictly for killing human beings; and work to fix our broken mental health system.

This works for me.

Civil Liberties

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I voted against the USA PATRIOT Act and against its subsequent reauthorizations. Terrorism is a serious threat and we must do everything we can to prevent attacks in this world, but I believe that we can do that without undermining our constitutional rights. Our civil liberties and right to privacy shouldn’t be the price we pay for security.

If this means I don't have to take my fucking shoes off in the airport again than okay. Fuck the TSA.

Foreign Policy

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The test of a great and powerful nation is not how many wars it can engage in, but how it can resolve international conflicts in a peaceful manner. I will move away from a policy of unilateral military action and regime change, and toward a policy of emphasizing diplomacy, and ensuring the decision to go to war is a last resort.

I suppose that is good? I'm not a far of war but we'll see.

Taxes

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The wealthy and large corporations must pay their fair share. As president, I will stop corporations from shifting profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying taxes. I will tax Wall St. speculators who caused millions their jobs, homes, and life savings. I will tell the billionaire class: You can’t have it all while kids in this country go hungry.

That is excellent. Fucking billionaires, hoarding money and having it rot in accounts. That shit needs to be spent for the trickle down effect to happen.

Jobs and Employment

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As President, I will invest $1 trillion to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure to put 13 million Americans to work in good jobs, invest $5.5 billion to employ 1 million young Americans and provide job-training to hundreds of thousands of others, and create a Clean-Energy Workforce of 10 million good jobs through a 100% clean energy system.

Give me a damn job you geriatric bastard. 

 

 

 

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On 1/26/2016 at 10:09 AM, Spike said:

A little complaint but something that annoyed me. I hate those coffee mugs that say 'White Tears'. Maaaaaan, really? That is pretty racist, I wouldn't drink out of a cup that said 'Black Tears' or 'Yellow Tears', so why the hypocrisy? Why do people have be like this?

Nobody should be reveling in the collective sadness/frustration/crying of an entire race. Schadenfraude for you.

 

I know man. 

I'm so disgusted at the race discussions in this country, and the overall race-tension that has been bubbling up now since the Trayvon Martin case. Since then, every couple of months, we have the Caucasian Cop shooting a young African American, The Oscar's saga (which was completely off the mark, like you mentioned), the Oregon Militia, Black Lives Matter, Ferguson Protests, White Privilege, and everything in between. 

It's clear the media at large is trying to drive us against one another, and it's working.

What irks me the most is how these Race Stories play out in the general mediasphere. You'll get both sides (Dems and Republicans) completely avoiding the issues at hand,  and nothing meaningful is achieved at the end of the story. (And these so called 'pundits'/figure heads that go on these big platforms to give such uneducated opinions continuously grinds my gears.) And with each passing story, one can only imagine the effects this is having on the young impressionable minds of fellow College students like myself, and those in High-School. After being labeled the 'color-blind' generation, it's been shown that our generation are just as 'racist'/hold stereotypical beliefs as the generation before us.

I don't frequent /r/news, but i know many young people who get their news from there, and whenever a race story comes to the surface, that place just becomes a cesspool for hate. But how many people are aware of this? And not just when it comes to r/news, but other message boards and major news outlets that spew nothing but blatant misinformation and hate? And that's for all race's by the way. There are message boards predominately for African-Americans who just want to blame all their troubles on the white-man, and are quick to call anybody out as a "c00n"/Uncle Tom who doesn't accept that the white-man is the embodiment of evil. 

It really is depressing to watch what's happening in this country. At least, for me that is. 

 

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1 hour ago, Stingray said:

Tbh Trump checks all boxes on the psychopath inventory test, which is scary. If you want the expert in the field, check the articles of Robert Hare.

http://www.hare.org

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23834781

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist

Trump is the fire to the fuse that is the world right now....

Damned, i use the guy as a textbook case in my classes. Scary tbh.

Yeah, I know that checklist. I once did an online test based on that and scored something like 35!  

In the case of Trump I do wonder how much of it is just show. After he's an actor, an entertainer and for the  most part he's giving people what they want. 

I can't seem to find it now but I recently saw a video compilation of Trump in the late 90s early 00s basically contradicting everything he's said since his nomination on guns, immigration, civil rights...etc. Basically he was a moderate democrat before running but he realizes that going full fascist is his best bet to winning the elections. 

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17 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

 

I know man. 

I'm so disgusted at the race discussions in this country, and the overall race-tension that has been bubbling up now since the Trayvon Martin case. Since then, every couple of months, we have the Caucasian Cop shooting a young African American, The Oscar's saga (which was completely off the mark, like you mentioned), the Oregon Militia, Black Lives Matter, Ferguson Protests, White Privilege, and everything in between. 

It's clear the media at large is trying to drive us against one another, and it's working.

What irks me the most is how these Race Stories play out in the general mediasphere. You'll get both sides (Dems and Republicans) completely avoiding the issues at hand,  and nothing meaningful is achieved at the end of the story. (And these so called 'pundits'/figure heads that go on these big platforms to give such uneducated opinions continuously grinds my gears.) And with each passing story, one can only imagine the effects this is having on the young impressionable minds of fellow College students like myself, and those in High-School. After being labeled the 'color-blind' generation, it's been shown that our generation are just as 'racist'/hold stereotypical beliefs as the generation before us.

I don't frequent /r/news, but i know many young people who get their news from there, and whenever a race story comes to the surface, that place just becomes a cesspool for hate. But how many people are aware of this? And not just when it comes to r/news, but other message boards and major news outlets that spew nothing but blatant misinformation and hate? And that's for all race's by the way. There are message boards predominately for African-Americans who just want to blame all their troubles on the white-man, and are quick to call anybody out as a "c00n"/Uncle Tom who doesn't accept that the white-man is the embodiment of evil. 

It really is depressing to watch what's happening in this country. At least, for me that is. 

 

I know. Being angry at the past isn't going to change anything. Blaming people isn't going to change anything. Everyone knows that whites have done terrible things in the past but so has every race. There are millions of innocent people but no innocent races, we could sit here and debate who was worse to the other(s) but what does that achieve? It just scratches at old scars and brings hatred back to the surface. People should be looking toward the future to build a better future, not looking in the  past and getting angry. You'll never properly get rid of racism, culturalism, or any other ~isms because they are more than likely hard coded in our DNA. When you break it down to the core elements it is simply this: "those people across the river are slightly different to us and if we take advantage of them, we won't feel as bad as doing it to ourselves". Survival of the fittest if you will, the nature to stay with the familiar. However cultural and societal norms can and do change. Sadly it is becoming the norm to hate white people, even for past transgressions and for actions taken by other white people. It is just racism pure and simple. 

The media focuses on race so much, so, so much. Wouldn't it be better if the news read: "Man murders child" as opposed to "Black man murders Latino child". The first simply comes across as a vile, terrible, violent act but the second is the same but with racial connotations and motivations. The 'black vote', who gives a fuck what the 'black vote' is. It should just be the 'vote'. BET, BET awards, what is up with all these exclusiveness?  I will always stand by my notion that everything should be awarded through merit and in this time and age it's more true than ever but all these little things add up and create a divide. 

I dunno it's all so difficult and touchy. Wigger, oreo, banana, people can't even appreciate different cultures without backlash. Stick to your own kind mentality still exists apparently and most people don't even realise it.