Politics & Stuff

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

27 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well I don't think we will have much choice other then Marshal law. A military police state.

And then things will even worse then this. Unfortunately that is what I foresee happening in the future.

Yes a foreseeable dystopian possibility.

Or the police could be more accountable by firstly  dissolving and then reforming their 'Internal Affairs' -the Office of Professional Standards, so its not cops investigating cops, and start by making  racism a zero -tolerance policy, rather than just lip service. It could also live up to its mantra -To Protect and Serve, and  police by consent rather than just be another corrupt gang, and have proper accountability to its populace it purports to represent.

All this is difficult when there is a massive acceptance and proliferation of firearms.

[cosmicway 1,247]

Black Power is an old movement of basically communist ideology.
They brainwashed somebody to do that.
Their purpose is on the one hand to aid and abet the extreme right (to create a growing instability) and on the other hand to radicalise the black population, like Middle East.
In Greece we 've seen the movie since 1945 without interruption.

You can't say "but the police ..." or offer any such explanations.
Fact is the police brutality -of the whatever extent- is their excuse to start it.

[Kieran. 6,317]

What did I say about the boiling point literally yesterday? 11 cops shot at the end of a BLM protest. Now the country will turn and blame the BLM movement even though the boiling point has been so close to bursting for months now. Fuck this shit.

[Spike 12,049]

It's a spiral of hatred and violence. Nobody (outside of the extremly insane and dangerous) deserves this. 

Police are nuts, people need to realise they aren't just killing black people. Everyone is getting their asses murdered.

Look at this; http://killedbypolice.net/ 

Click on any link and you'll be shown a person killed. I want people to realise this isn't a black problem, this is a people problem. Don't feel threatened because of your skin, feel threatened because you live!

[Kieran. 6,317]

7 hours ago, Spike said:

It's a spiral of hatred and violence. Nobody (outside of the extremly insane and dangerous) deserves this. 

Police are nuts, people need to realise they aren't just killing black people. Everyone is getting their asses murdered.

Look at this; http://killedbypolice.net/ 

Click on any link and you'll be shown a person killed. I want people to realise this isn't a black problem, this is a people problem. Don't feel threatened because of your skin, feel threatened because you live!

it is a black problem, percentage of black folk in US and black people killed by police in the US is skewed.

[cosmicway 1,247]

Look the reds of Greece after Brexit say "wow, yippeeee, now we can get back our tin cans and slaughter all the middle classes".
It's sickening.
Will they succeed ?
I don't know, maybe.
It's a parallel story, bad cops, terror movement emerges (new terror movement !).
 

 

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

On the positive side amongst all the madness on earth - five years after setting out on its 1.8 billion-mile journey from Earth, the Juno probe has made a near-perfect entry into Jupiter’s orbit, and is now ready to observe and analyse the gas giant.

Why should we care with all the shit going on, on earth ?  It helped form earth with its gravity, has 62 moons and weighs twice as much as all the other planets in our solar system combined

Most ancient cultures saw Jupiter as a God. It personified the mysteries of the heavens. It was called Jupiter by the Romans; Thor by Germanic tribes; Marduk by the Babylonians; and Zeus by the Ancient Greeks. Lets hope we can dispense the myths about other 'Gods' someday....

[cosmicway 1,247]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

On the positive side amongst all the madness on earth - five years after setting out on its 1.8 billion-mile journey from Earth, the Juno probe has made a near-perfect entry into Jupiter’s orbit, and is now ready to observe and analyse the gas giant.

Why should we care with all the shit going on, on earth ?  It helped form earth with its gravity, has 62 moons and weighs twice as much as all the other planets in our solar system combined

Most ancient cultures saw Jupiter as a God. It personified the mysteries of the heavens. It was called Jupiter by the Romans; Thor by Germanic tribes; Marduk by the Babylonians; and Zeus by the Ancient Greeks. Lets hope we can dispense the myths about other 'Gods' someday....

Religion is the least guilty party in all this.
Maybe there are some exceptions but it's a gross exaggeration.
In Greece for example in 1967 when a dictatorship was declared the situation in the clergy was as follows.
The junta makes the archbishop Chrysanthus resign. They replace him with Jeronymus, who was juntist (but later he too is said to have turned against them). Meanwhile the patriarch of Constantinople Atinagora was dead against them and he made many broadcasts in European radio stations.
So you can't really say religious men side with repression.
But in 1941 also the old archbishop Damascenus despite his old political games, went to the Germans and he said to them "if you want to arrest the Jews, first you have to arrest me".
It's an exaggeration to blame religion.
 

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Religion is the least guilty party in all this.
Maybe there are some exceptions but it's a gross exaggeration.
In Greece for example in 1967 when a dictatorship was declared the situation in the clergy was as follows.
The junta makes the archbishop Chrysanthus resign. They replace him with Jeronymus, who was juntist (but later he too is said to have turned against them). Meanwhile the patriarch of Constantinople Atinagora was dead against them and he made many broadcasts in European radio stations.
So you can't really say religious men side with repression.
But in 1941 also the old archbishop Damascenus despite his old political games, went to the Germans and he said to them "if you want to arrest the Jews, first you have to arrest me".
It's an exaggeration to blame religion.
 

Religion is the opiate of the masses.

In a rational Anarcho-Socialist world where inner and outer space would be explored, religion would be debunked and filed with the other Ancient Mythology, saving millions of lives.

Probably.

[cosmicway 1,247]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Religion is the opiate of the masses.

In a rational Anarcho-Socialist world where inner and outer space would be explored, religion would be debunked and filed with the other Ancient Mythology, saving millions of lives.

Probably.

The red-pink godless dictatorships proved far more repressive than Spanish inquisition.
Anyway one of my two grand fathers was a priest and he died of pneumonia after a hunting expedition - no penicilline those days.
One of my fore-fore-fore ancestors who lived in the early 19th century was the bishop of Crete.
I don't think they were into the "opiation of the masses" all that much. They were teaching the children in schools and providing for the poor.

[Fernando 6,375]

Iranian commander: 100,000 missiles ready to ‘annihilate’ Israel

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-commander-100000-missiles-ready-to-annihilate-israel/?utm_source=The+Times+of+Israel+Daily+Edition&utm_campaign=6b7ec367dd-2016_07_09&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_adb46cec92-6b7ec367dd-55497697

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Iranian commander: 100,000 missiles ready to ‘annihilate’ Israel

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-commander-100000-missiles-ready-to-annihilate-israel/?utm_source=The+Times+of+Israel+Daily+Edition&utm_campaign=6b7ec367dd-2016_07_09&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_adb46cec92-6b7ec367dd-55497697

That's the 'Times of Israel'. That bastion of independent reporting

No vested interest in stirring up paranoia there then

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

21 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The red-pink godless dictatorships proved far more repressive than Spanish inquisition.
Anyway one of my two grand fathers was a priest and he died of pneumonia after a hunting expedition - no penicilline those days.
One of my fore-fore-fore ancestors who lived in the early 19th century was the bishop of Crete.
I don't think they were into the "opiation of the masses" all that much. They were teaching the children in schools and providing for the poor.

Ah the benevolent church, yes they do a good PR exercise in giving handouts from their vast wealth to the poor. A sticking plaster on capitalisms rejected.

Reminds me of mother Theresa, she was a nightmare and did more harm than good, with the churches doctrine against contraception.

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

This is funny. After Ron Atkinson was caught still on mic calling our Marcel Desailly ' lazy fucking nigger' then Jimmy Hill came out to defend Atkinson, Stuart Lee suggests a suitable punishment

[cosmicway 1,247]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Ah the benevolent church, yes they do a good PR exercise in giving handouts from their vast wealth to the poor. A sticking plaster on capitalisms rejected.

Reminds me of mother Theresa, she was a nightmare and did more harm than good, with the churches doctrine against contraception.

Come on, the church is the benevolent institution.
Some fuddy-daddyism exists, ok.
I remember in 1967 of all kinds of thigs that could happen a Scottish vicar came to our shool and told us not to go to the Stones recital, because "it is a sin". How did a Scottish vicar found his way into a Greek school in a suburb was never explained to me.
We went of course to the Stones and next to the Hilton hotel to take autographs. Keith Richard I remember was kind, Jagger passed us by in a hurry.
But if you look at it objectively it is the enemies of the church who are all criminals of one type or another.

[Spike 12,049]

11 hours ago, Kieran. said:

it is a black problem, percentage of black folk in US and black people killed by police in the US is skewed.

It's skewed due to the lower population of blacks in the US but the overwhelming majority of police murders are white and hispanic people. What also is skewed is the crazy amount of crime black people commit in relation to their population. To me that says that everyone is a potential target and just that blacks are more likely in certain scenarios (high crime suburbs, lower development, et al). It's a black problem but it's an everyone problem, this isn't my subjective opinion this is a cold hard fact: people are dying. Saying it's a black problem dismisses the fact that police in this country are trained to kill and kill they do, it's a deeply rooted problem that goes beyond skin colour (in some cases I believe racism is the crux but that is too simple for all cases). It's a national, cultural, personal and everyone problem. This could just be semantics between ourselves but this is an issue for everyone to take a stand against.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/wp/2015/12/26/2015/12/26/a-year-of-reckoning-police-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-cops-black-lives-matter-dallas-shootings-killings-perspec-0710-jm-20160708-column.html

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

58 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Come on, the church is the benevolent institution.
Some fuddy-daddyism exists, ok.
I remember in 1967 of all kinds of thigs that could happen a Scottish vicar came to our shool and told us not to go to the Stones recital, because "it is a sin". How did a Scottish vicar found his way into a Greek school in a suburb was never explained to me.
We went of course to the Stones and next to the Hilton hotel to take autographs. Keith Richard I remember was kind, Jagger passed us by in a hurry.
But if you look at it objectively it is the enemies of the church who are all criminals of one type or another.

Scottish priest looking for children on a Greek island. Mmmm. Have you seen 'Spotlight' ?

 

Well done for seeing the Stones 

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Sympathy for the Devil

[Fernando 6,375]

3 hours ago, Fernando said:

3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

That's the 'Times of Israel'. That bastion of independent reporting

No vested interest in stirring up paranoia there then

 

 

Yeah but it's a general saying that from Iran. 

It's okay for them to say that but if a USA or Israel general says the same thing there will be an outrage. 

Double standard at its finest.