Politics & Stuff

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Have moved all the political related posts from the Hazard thread to here.

Sorry mate, my bad, should have moved the discussion here when it started to go off topic..

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

So this is your opinion about muslims / french people ? Then, that must means that you know better France and muslims than what he knows about the situation in the middle-East... Or you're not, and this is hypocrisy.

It's not my opinion, it's a fact. hundreds of those " good people" came to here, to help to the palestinians... once they asked about something that the palestinians. did, they said: Really? I didn't hear about that?

[Jase 43,479]

Sorry mate, my bad, should have moved the discussion here when it started to go off topic..

No worries. It's not like I did any better either discussing about Torres in the Oscar thread the other day.

[fAnta 107]

It's not my opinion, it's a fact. hundreds of those " good people" came to here, to help to the palestinians... once they asked about something that the palestinians. did, they said: Really? I didn't hear about that?

you've just proven to me that you are a bigot in this post alone.

im curios do you believe hamas started this recent crossfire?

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

I will be the first to celebrate a two countries solution. 2 countries, for two nations. Side by side, in peace.

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

you've just proven to me that you are a bigot in this post alone.

im curios do you believe hamas started this recent crossfire?

YES. and it is a Fact. For about a week, they fired on israel like 100-200 missiles, without any israeli response.

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

you've just proven to me that you are a bigot in this post alone.

im curios do you believe hamas started this recent crossfire?

And After Those 100-200 misselis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MmNn5WpJH0

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

YES. and it is a Fact. For about a week, they fired on israel like 100-200 missiles, without any israeli response.

Nonsense!

In October Israel killed 15 Palestinians including a 13 year old boy assassinating Jabari who was negotiating about a ceasefire. This completely ended the talks of a ceasefire.

Everyone is saying which country would tolerate missiles being pointed at your country? I ask you this, which country would support siege preventing basic supplies from entering your country? Which country would tolerate a brutal occupation? Which country would tolerate illegal settlements across the West bank in violation of international law? Who would tolerate the killing of 11 month year old babies that only knew how to smile:

With the Israeli interior minister asking for Gaza to be sent back to "sent back to middle ages" and a "holocaust" can you honestly tell me that Palestine is the provocateur?

[fAnta 107]

YES. and it is a Fact. For about a week, they fired on israel like 100-200 missiles, without any israeli response.

I think the answer is above me^

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

I'm not saying that killing baibes is right. it's awful and we should avoid it as much a we can.

But u want to tell me, that doing thigs like this:

its ok?

Another Point: We are giving them Food, electricity and many other things, and after that, they attack us. it's normal?no.

How many times during the history, Israel said OK for 2 countries for the nations, and the Arabs said no!, and immediately opend a war against us.

[fAnta 107]

I'm not saying that killing baibes is right. it's awful and we should avoid it as much a we can.

But u want to tell me, that doing thigs like this:

its ok?

Another Point: We are giving them Food, electricity and many other things, and after that, they attack us. it's normal?no.

How many times during the history, Israel said OK for 2 countries for the nations, and the Arabs said no!, and immediately opend a war against us.

What a joke of a jpeg and nobody here HAS EVER condoned babies being killed. I'm sure that's how they show the news of babies being killed in Israel but the world know how it happens.You completely ignored Eviltwinz93 's point and the aid is being delivered through a means of the UN. But again bombing and destroying there infrastructure and the siege preventing there basic food supply coming in should tell you how much israel really give a damn.

This is a better pic:

as eviltwinz93 said the ministers and government in israel have made there intention clear, a genocide.

[Beirut_Blues 306]

lool @ the true story..complete bullshit..

My opinion is this conflict will never be solved. The problem goes back over 60 years ago when Israel was created..when the deal was signed.

But today I am fed up from the media lies.. When ppl know how Hamas and Fatah (Yaser Arafat) were created they will be shocked, as Israel had a major role in the purpose of their establishment..

Let's go to Hezbollah in south Lebanon, they were established as a resistance to Israeli occupation, with full support and backing of Khomeini or Iran, who was brought by the Americans to lead the Islamic Revolution.

In south Lebanon who does Israel prefer to have control? Shiite Hezbollah or some radical Sunni resistance movement?

Same in Gaza.. Israel loves the fact that Hamas controls Gaza.

Same in Syria, Israel loves the fact that Baath party Asad controls it.

So sitting here arguing about something Hazard signed - it is such a tiny tiny tiny point in a huge game.

But what I know, if you go against the Zionists you will lose. They control everything, as Hitler used to say.

So someone like Hazard - in such a high profile position - it is unwise to voice your opinion about such a sensitive issue, especially if it is against the Zionists.

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

They need to stop to hide missiles in hospitals, Schools and other places like this and then, israel will not bomb those places. we are not looking to bomb and bomb and bomb all day long beacuse we like it. We want peace. no attack from both sides.

About your picture:

Show me any country that will allow to someone to fire missiles on her without any response?Russia? USA? or maybe UK?...

lool @ the true story..complete bullshit..

My opinion is this conflict will never be solved. The problem goes back over 60 years ago when Israel was created..when the deal was signed.

But today I am fed up from the media lies.. When ppl know how Hamas and Fatah (Yaser Arafat) were created they will be shocked, as Israel had a major role in the purpose of their establishment..

Let's go to Hezbollah in south Lebanon, they were established as a resistance to Israeli occupation, with full support and backing of Khomeini or Iran, who was brought by the Americans to lead the Islamic Revolution.

In south Lebanon who does Israel prefer to have control? Shiite Hezbollah or some radical Sunni resistance movement?

Same in Gaza.. Israel loves the fact that Hamas controls Gaza.

Same in Syria, Israel loves the fact that Baath party Asad controls it.

So sitting here arguing about something Hazard signed - it is such a tiny tiny tiny point in a huge game.

But what I know, if you go against the Zionists you will lose. They control everything, as Hitler used to say.

So someone like Hazard - in such a high profile position - it is unwise to voice your opinion about such a sensitive issue, especially if it is against the Zionists.

U sure? Maybe u need to look more carefully. to send your children to explode himself is good?

It's a FACT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8

[Beirut_Blues 306]

I am not denying the suicide bombers.

But to analyse the whole situation in 1 cartoon is not right.

Show that bullshit somewhere else.

[fAnta 107]

They need to stop to hide missiles in hospitals, Schools and other places like this and then, israel will not bomb those places. we are not looking to bomb and bomb and bomb all day long beacuse we like it. We want peace. no attack from both sides.

About your picture:

Show me any country that will allow to someone to fire missiles on her without any response?Russia? USA? or maybe UK?...

U sure? Maybe u need to look more carefully. to send your children to explode himself is good?

It's a FACT:

bringing up a few videos doesn't mean every kid is a soldier of hamas too, nobody is denying some exist, but when israel have funds of 3 billion from america i guess all israel is good old missiles, bombs, blockades. Please don't try and bend the facts and try and show israel to be the moral ones.

Also you haven't addressed my point just bringin up different ones. With all these Facts thrown at you you still think israel are retaliating?

Many of these kids will never get an opportunity to live a kid's life because of the israel terrorism. :

put on captions on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vprhpeLI5Y

Breaks my heart,i can't believe you think israel are the ones retaliating.

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

It's terrible and it shouldn't happen. it's happening in both sides.

But we all need to agree that " animals" like this:

bring the situation to be even worse.

[fAnta 107]

It's terrible and it shouldn't happen. it's happening in both sides.

But we all need to agree that " animals" like this:

bring the situation to be even worse.

can you stop coming at me with these bullshit videos, ive said i don't like all methods used but look at the casulity list and see the countless amount of atrocities israel has committed which is 100000000 fold worse.

Do you want me to start posting the videos of palestinian babies killed by phosporous bombs, and born with deformities worse than the ones resulting from hiroshima?(Scientifically proven) If your trying to tell me hamas are the terrorists your only convincing yourself right now because the world knows the truth. Unlike the 3b per year funded israel army from america alone palestine have no military, without hamas imagine how even more helpless palestine would be.

[Peace. 4,352]

It's not my opinion, it's a fact. hundreds of those " good people" came to here, to help to the palestinians... once they asked about something that the palestinians. did, they said: Really? I didn't hear about that?

First of all, you tell that “hundreds of those "good people" came here” [sic] and then you talk about them being asked over something. Did your televisions or/and newspeaper asked all of them ? And does this mean that French people and muslims cannot know nothing about this conflit, and are brainwashed, because some people going there to help aren't well aware of the conflit ?

And did your medias show all the answer to the asked question ? Couldn't your medias cut off the answers which were saying "yes, I am well aware of this blabla" ? Or maybe brainwashing is only happening in France and in muslim countries, and isreali medias are firmly unbiased and objective ?

Finaly, I assume that "those good people" you're talking about are people who went there in order to help people in need, to help people suffering from the war, am I right ? Then, in all honestly, they don't really need to know what is happening. They are helping innocent people. They are helping civilian victims of the conflit. These "good people" don't have to be geopolitical experts to do what they are doing. And don't mix up these people with the majority of people thinking that what Isreal is doing is wrong.

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

can you stop coming at me with these bullshit videos, ive said i don't like all methods used but look at the casulity list and see the countless amount of atrocities israel has committed which is 100000000 fold worse.

Do you want me to start posting the videos of palestinian babies killed by phosporous bombs, and born with deformities worse than the ones resulting from hiroshima?(Scientifically proven) If your trying to tell me hamas are the terrorists your only convincing yourself right now because the world knows the truth. Unlike the 3b per year funded israel army from america alone palestine have no military, without hamas imagine how even more helpless palestine would be.

Helpless? to fight and attack is the solution? u want to tell me that hamas is good for them?!? u want to tell me that hamas is not a terrorist organization?

It's bullshit.

Without Hamas their situation was much better.

[fAnta 107]

Helpless? to fight and attack is the solution? u want to tell me that hamas is good for them?!? u want to tell me that hamas is not a terrorist organization?

It's bullshit.

Without Hamas their situation was much better.

Bullshit of the highest order. Again your saying Palestine starts it, like everyone here has stressed Israel are the instigators.

You think an army funded by 3 billion from america, compared to a country with no military is fair. If Hamas wasn't there then Palestine would be far worse that it is today, and even then there are so terribly equipped. Without them isrel would be have an even easier time bombing the "terrroist" babies.