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4 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The brexiters are idiots.
Imagine brexit happening in 1980. Margaret Thatcher accused as a ... communist fellow traveler, NATO in turmoil.
What's the difference now ;
No communist party in the USSR but Putin. Ok Putin.
But besides Putin all kinds of dangerous political entities threaten Europe and the UK with a new Weimar republic situation or a 
new kind of communist revolution.
Brexit has thrown the spanner into the works.

Order out of chaos is the mantra

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Israel have great air defense system.

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28 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Order out of chaos is the mantra

When we bring to the world dis-order.

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13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Israel have great air defense system.

Its decent but better do exist for sure.....S300-500 are simply more potent

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23 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The brexiters are idiots.
Imagine brexit happening in 1980. Margaret Thatcher accused as a ... communist fellow traveler, NATO in turmoil.
What's the difference now ;
No communist party in the USSR but Putin. Ok Putin.
But besides Putin all kinds of dangerous political entities threaten Europe and the UK with a new Weimar republic situation or a 
new kind of communist revolution.
Brexit has thrown the spanner into the works.

Bollox to the Russians and Chinese!

Our (the west) biggest threat come from wit.hin and it started to forment in the late 60's when the hard left realized they could never win power thru the ballot box. 

They formed longterm plans to infiltrate every institution,starting with the education systems and now jist about every institution is ramming left wing woke shite down peoples throats.Have to admire their planning and persistence because its fucking worked alright. I mean, is even the current Prime Minister a  real Conservative? More to the  liberal Left than Tory Blair ever was!

Blair was the last leader I voted for btw. Get rid of the Corbynists and racist race grifting cunts like Dawn Butler, Abbott and Lammy, bring in Andy Burnham as leader and they might have a chance of winning an election again.

 

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3 hours ago, chippy said:

Bollox to the Russians and Chinese!

Our (the west) biggest threat come from wit.hin and it started to forment in the late 60's when the hard left realized they could never win power thru the ballot box. 

They formed longterm plans to infiltrate every institution,starting with the education systems and now jist about every institution is ramming left wing woke shite down peoples throats.Have to admire their planning and persistence because its fucking worked alright. I mean, is even the current Prime Minister a  real Conservative? More to the  liberal Left than Tory Blair ever was!

Blair was the last leader I voted for btw. Get rid of the Corbynists and racist race grifting cunts like Dawn Butler, Abbott and Lammy, bring in Andy Burnham as leader and they might have a chance of winning an election again.

 

If you think UK was overtaken by leftists you have n't seen nothing yet.
But the leftists have lost the argument since in all the countries ruled by left wing parties, orthodox communist and non-orthodox alike, there is poverty, destitution, corruption and dictatorship. So it was not just the Soviet Union to blame, this notion is archaic.
Yet they persist and at the same time we have the right wing crazies.

Edited May 12, 2021 by cosmicway

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I saw some videos on Reddit of Israeli bombardment at Ghaza. Dead children, people burned alive. Horrible to see.

What the State of Israel is doing is out of proportion and completely unacceptable. These people have nothing to do with Hamas.

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15 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Israel have great air defense system.

Is it four four Jew ?

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18 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Mate they are all part of the same system, all your news outlets are owned by the same entities, the agenda comes from the higher ups and down it goes. And we the gullible eat it up hook line and sinker. They have long divided us, we have long become demoralized and indoctrinated. Left/right, doesnt matter, they serve the same masters, yet we get to suffer the same.

I wouldn't piss on the mainstream media outlets if they were on fire.  They're all pushing a devisive agenda.

However, the truth is out there if you take the time to look for it and know where to look.

Mainstream media are deliberately chosing to cover stories that fit the current, trendy far left agenda and covering up anything that goes against it. They (mostly talking about American on this bit) are even going as far editing videos and cutting out crucial bits which put completely different slants onto to what actually happened. I know this for a fact as I've seen uncut videos from peoples mobile phones and then seen the ediited video footage  shown on mainstream tv, with CNN probably being the worst culprits. These scumbags are stirring up hatred and division.

I prefer to watch actual, uncut video footage uploaded by someone who simply says "here you are, just take a look at this."

 

Furthermore, anyone can go on the FBI website and look at their detailed  crime data. It literally destroys the disgusting lies of the media narative and the Far Left/BLM/Antifa/Woke BS.

 

 

 

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On 12/05/2021 at 12:16, chippy said:

And who was it who eulogized former KKK recruiter Robert Byrd. Was it Trump or Biden?

Who was it who said "you aint Black if you font for me"  Trump or Biden.

Honestly can't remember a more openly racist insult from a Presidential candidate.

Despite the relentless, unprecedented attacks by almost thr entire media, Trump significantly increased the Black and Hispanic vote for the Republicans. 

Trump is a crude cnut,  but its not his side that is causing mayhem and tearing the country apart.

Only yesterday I saw a video  which so reminded me of the Michael Douglas film Falling Down. Am otidnary man being pushed to his limits by an OBLM mob blocking a junction stopping people going about their business. Harrased and abused while the Police stood by doing nothing. Sooner or later people are going to say enough is enough.

The only solution is to  break up the country. Give the  American hating Left their own Country and let them get on  with it. 

 

 

 

 

lol, gaslight much?

you need to lay off the fux snooz

The MAGA Trump wing just tried a violent insurrection and still are trying to say the election was illegitimate

American hating left? LOL They are not the ones trying to use voter suppression to extra-constitutionally seize and maintain power

there is not one actual socialist elected to the US Congress (Bernie and AOC falsely self-label as democratic socialists when they are nothing more than completely bog standard social democrats)

the US's political spectrum is insanely skewed to the Right

what is labelled radical left there is completely middle of the road centre left in most all other advanced nation states

their entire agenda consists of things that most core EU nations and the UK already have had for decades

the so-called moderate Dem like Manchin and Sinema would be solid centre RW to middle RWin most all other advanced nation

80% of the Republicans would be ultra RW radicals, some would likely be banned (like the straight up neo Nazi Gosar fro Arizona), in many other core advanced nations

so many of the most violent actors in the George Floyd protests were RW agents provocateur, and the vast majority of the no RW bad actors were black bloc thugs, disruptors who care not for the US, they just want to have violent confrontation

Robert Byrd was an ancient throwback, who radically changed into a civil rights leader for 40 , 50 years after his unfortunately Klan days. Do some research before you pop off. All the old Dixiecrats are ancient history, long gone. Racists, white nationalists, KKKlanners, etc long ago migrated to the Republican party, starting with the 'Southern Strategy' that Nixon cooked up whilst running got POTUS in 1967/68.

Trump sided multiple times with white nationalists and neo nazis in the past 4 or 5 years.

You are nothing more than a bag of Foxian disinfo and RW gaslighting.

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15 minutes ago, chippy said:

I wouldn't piss on the mainstream media outlets if they were on fire.  They're all pushing a devisive agenda.

However, the truth is out there if you take the time to look for it and know where to look.

Mainstream media are deliberately chosing to cover stories that fit the current, trendy far left agenda and covering up anything that goes against it. They (mostly talking about American on this bit) are even going as far editing videos and cutting out crucial bits which put completely different slants onto to what actually happened. I know this for a fact as I've seen uncut videos from peoples mobile phones and then seen the ediited video footage  shown on mainstream tv, with CNN probably being the worst culprits. These scumbags are stirring up hatred and division.

I prefer to watch actual, uncut video footage uploaded by someone who simply says "here you are, just take a look at this."

 

Furthermore, anyone can go on the FBI website and look at their detailed  crime data. It literally destroys the disgusting lies of the media narative and the Far Left/BLM/Antifa/Woke BS.

 

 

 

Yup for sure, I NEVER watch what the media has to say, its a script handed to them. And they bring out their so called experts who are part of the same brotherhood to give the gulible masses more confidence but NEVER bring out experts from the other side of the coin to counter their BS. Agenda driven to the core.....hey we buy it everytime so it clearly works.

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14 minutes ago, Vesper said:

lol, gaslight much?

you need to lay off the fux snooz

The MAGA Trump wing just tried a violent insurrection and still are trying to say the election was illegitimate

American hating left? LOL They are not the ones trying to use voter suppression to extra-constitutionally seize and maintain power

there is not one actual socialist elected to the US Congress (Bernie and AOC falsely self-label as democratic socialists when they are nothing more than completely bog standard social democrats)

the US's political spectrum is insanely skewed to the Right

what is labelled radical left there is completely middle of the road centre left in most all other advanced nation states

their entire agenda consists of things that most core EU nations and the UK already have had for decades

the so-called moderate Dem like Manchin and Sinema would be solid centre RW to middle RWin most all other advanced nation

80% of the Republicans would be ultra RW radicals, some would likely be banned (like the straight up neo Nazi Gosar fro Arizona), in many other core advanced nations

so many of the most violent actors in the George Floyd protests were RW agents provocateur, and the vast majority of the no RW bad actors were black bloc thugs, disruptors who care not for the US, they just want to have violent confrontation

Robert Byrd was an ancient throwback, who radically changed into a civil rights leader for 40 , 50 years after his unfortunately Klan days. Do some research before you pop off. All the old Dixiecrats are ancient history, long gone. Racists, white nationalists, KKKlanners, etc long ago migrated to the Republican party, starting with the 'Southern Strategy' that Nixon cooked up whilst running got POTUS in 1967/68.

Trump sided multiple times with white nationalists and neo nazis in the past 4 or 5 years.

You are nothing more than a bag of Foxian disinfo and RW gaslighting.

There you go. Yet more of the usual response to those who oppose what they stand for.

Nazi this Nazi that. 

Blame far left violence on others, but all right wing violence is by Nazis.

Full how there are tons of Black Conservatives on YouTube who detest the Dems and BLM even more than I do.

One of the fucking founders of BLM has said that their end game is to bring down Western Civilization as we know it. Admitted that they are "pro Black" movement. 

Saw some of them openly saying before the Floyd verdict that "America will burn" if they don't get the verdict that they want.

 

You see, I despise the KKK and anyother groups of that kind. But I feel equally about racist Black Power groups. Just different sides of the same coin to me.

Finally, those on the Left never forgave George Wallace, but non Lefties have to forgive Leftie KKK members.  Ha Ha.

 

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6 minutes ago, chippy said:

There you go. Yet more of the usual response to those who oppose what they stand for.

Nazi this Nazi that. 

Blame far left violence on others, but all right wing violence is by Nazis.

Full how there are tons of Black Conservatives on YouTube who detest the Dems and BLM even more than I do.

One of the fucking founders of BLM has said that their end game is to bring down Western Civilization as we know it. Admitted that they are "pro Black" movement. 

Saw some of them openly saying before the Floyd verdict that "America will burn" if they don't get the verdict that they want.

 

You see, I despise the KKK and anyother groups of that kind. But I feel equally about racist Black Power groups. Just different sides of the same coin to me.

Finally, those on the Left never forgave George Wallace, but non Lefties have to forgive Leftie KKK members.  Ha Ha.

 

black power?!!!

you truly are brainwashed

all you do is erect pantomime villains and then try and shift the entire conversation onto them

your main modus operandi is littered with dog whistles and false frames

tens of millions just want coppers to stop systematically killing us PoC

take yer right wing talking points and shove them up yer batty crease 

Edited May 13, 2021 by Vesper

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21 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Yup for sure, I NEVER watch what the media has to say, its a script handed to them. And they bring out their so called experts who are part of the same brotherhood to give the gulible masses more confidence but NEVER bring out experts from the other side of the coin to counter their BS. Agenda driven to the core.....hey we buy it everytime so it clearly works.

Yeah, I always knew there was certain bias towards one side or another, esoecially in the printed media. It wasn't until I started to see these uncut videos when I saw just how much things are being twisted and covered up. I have been  genuinely shocked by what I've seen over the past couple of years.

These cnuts have blood on their hands!

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23 minutes ago, chippy said:

Yeah, I always knew there was certain bias towards one side or another, esoecially in the printed media. It wasn't until I started to see these uncut videos when I saw just how much things are being twisted and covered up. I have been  genuinely shocked by what I've seen over the past couple of years.

These cnuts have blood on their hands!

Always been so, its just that now more than ever its evident.  We are being manipulated at every corner.

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3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

black power?!!!

you truly are brainwashed

all you do is erect pantomime villains and then try and shift the entire conversation onto them

tens of millions just want coppers to stop systematically killing us PoC

take yer right wing talking points and shove them up yer batty crease 

Again, your proving my point. Have to resort to insults which shows you've lost the argument and havent a clue what you're talking about.

Even tho I very clearlt condemn Nazis and the extreme right, I still get branded as one. Quite laughable really.

Again, I've seen the hate speeches direct from the mouths of BLM, branding every white person as a fucking white supremacist and all kinds of other derogatory shit. Only a few weeks ago the mob were at it again outside a Cafe in New Jersey harrassing White People just sitting there having  coffee, ranting and raving about white people not being wanted around here. 

As for the Police going round "systematically killing us." 

Again, would you like the actual crime data on this, or do you just go along with what you want to believe?

I have something from a few months ago in the Commons from an exchange between Labour MP Tracey Babin and Pritti Patel.

Babin stood up and rantef about her inbox being full of letters from her constituents worried sick about the number of Black People who'd died in Police custody.over the Last year.

Rant over, Patel calmly stood up and read out the actual figures of those who died in custody and the total was 16 people. Out of those 16, 15 were white. Very telling that the Labour race grifter was only interested in the non white dying. That sums it all up for me. Bad shit happens to people of all colours, creeds and races, not just Black people.

Me, I care about justice for everykind of person, not one group of people over another. I hate extremists on both sides!

AND THAT IS MY F ING POINT!

But I doubt you'll believe me, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Always been so, its just that now more than ever its evident.  We are being manipulated at every corner.

Yes, and its working and tearing countries apart on political sides like I've never seen in my lifetime.  Only the other week 25 retired French Generals called for a military takeover of France. A bit worrying when we start hearing this kind of stuff.

I don't know what the end game is to  all this, but there are dark forces at work here doing shit well beyond my level of thinking.

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8 minutes ago, chippy said:

Again, your proving my point. Have to resort to insults which shows you've lost the argument and havent a clue what you're talking about.

Even tho I very clearlt condemn Nazis and the extreme right, I still get branded as one. Quite laughable really.

Again, I've seen the hate speeches direct from the mouths of BLM, branding every white person as a fucking white supremacist and all kinds of other derogatory shit. Only a few weeks ago the mob were at it again outside a Cafe in New Jersey harrassing White People just sitting there having  coffee, ranting and raving about white people not being wanted around here. 

As for the Police going round "systematically killing us." 

Again, would you like the actual crime data on this, or do you just go along with what you want to believe?

I have something from a few months ago in the Commons from an exchange between Labour MP Tracey Babin and Pritti Patel.

Babin stood up and rantef about her inbox being full of letters from her constituents worried sick about the number of Black People who'd died in Police custody.over the Last year.

Rant over, Patel calmly stood up and read out the actual figures of those who died in custody and the total was 16 people. Out of those 16, 15 were white. Very telling that the Labour race grifter was only interested in the non white dying. That sums it all up for me. Bad shit happens to people of all colours, creeds and races, not just Black people.

Me, I care about justice for everykind of person, not one group of people over another. I hate extremists on both sides!

AND THAT IS MY F ING POINT!

But I doubt you'll believe me, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

 

 

 

 

was speaking about the US, as that is what you were ranting on about