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7 hours ago, Jason said:

I think you're talking about the 2019/20 Chelsea and not the 2020/21 Chelsea...

What about the games against Everton, Krasnador, United, Seville, Southampton, West Brom, Liverpool this season? Still mistakes, still inconsistencies, still things to be worked on. 

Wouldn’t say we have completely resolved everything we struggled with last season, we have made good steps in the right direction yes with set pieces and more solid at times but to think we still don’t have weaknesses or are a complete team is naive. I mean Everton just showed us a valuable lesson at the weekend imo and I would not be surprised if Atletico and other teams follow suit against us. We still haven’t won any of our big games domestically this season also.

Also regardless of what people think about Atletico right now or think about Diego Simeone wouldn’t write them off yet, in terms of knockout football they are more than capable. Its not as if we arent favourites if thats what people think I meant, its just that the idea I am getting from posts on here is that we are basically through to the next round already because its only Atletico. Which couldn’t be further from the truth. Its a good opportunity to see where we are at. Particularly as they are a better side that what we have played in the CL already arguably. 

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7 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

What about the games against Everton, Krasnador, United, Seville, Southampton, West Brom, Liverpool this season? Still mistakes, still inconsistencies, still things to be worked on. 

Wouldn’t say we have completely resolved everything we struggled with last season, we have made good steps in the right direction yes with set pieces and more solid at times but to think we still don’t have weaknesses or are a complete team is naive. I mean Everton just showed us a valuable lesson at the weekend imo and I would not be surprised if Atletico and other teams follow suit against us. We still haven’t won any of our big games domestically this season also.

Also regardless of what people think about Atletico right now or think about Diego Simeone wouldn’t write them off yet, in terms of knockout football they are more than capable. Its not as if we arent favourites if thats what people think I meant, its just that the idea I am getting from posts on here is that we are basically through to the next round already because its only Atletico. Which couldn’t be further from the truth. Its a good opportunity to see where we are at. Particularly as they are a better side that what we have played in the CL already arguably. 

West Brom and Southampton were before we switched to 4-3-3. Same goes with the Liverpool game and that came in the 2nd game and we went down to 10 men. Sevilla and Man United came immediately after Lampard started to switch things for the better; we were found wanting offensively but we were defensively sound. And which Krasnodar game?

If you are gonna point out the games where we had imperfections, then you should probably point the games where we did well as well. Only fair, no? Inconsistency is still to be expected from us when we are still a work in progress but compared to last season, our consistency is less bad this time around, if that makes sense. Had we faced Atletico last season, I wouldn't have fancied our chances at all. But this time? I do. We aren't perfect yet but we are also in a better place right now (maybe things will change come February but that is another debate). 

Sure, we haven't won any of the big domestic games yet this season but at the same time, we have also lost only once and that was after we went down to 10 men. Similarly, Atletico have failed to beat Villarreal (4th), Real Madrid (3rd) in La Liga this season. They also got smashed 4-0 by Bayern and then failed to beat a Bayern B side. The only big side they have beaten this season is Barcelona but that is a hopeless Barcelona side that have lost to the likes of Getafe and Cadiz.

And who is writing Atletico off already? If anything, people already wrote us off immediately after the draw was made if you have seen the posts. If anything, there are people who are just feeling bullish about our chances. Atletico won't be easy to get past, that is true but the way people have been talking about them, you would think they are the European champions and/or have been dominating Europe for years. If you go look at their results and performances in recent seasons in Europe, they aren't actually all that impressive. There have been some good ones but there have also been bad ones. Again, they won't be easy to beat but they aren't unbeatable either. If we are in good form and have no major injury issues especially come then, we have a good chance of beating them over two legs.

(On a side note, can't believe I'm the one who is trying or the one who is being optimistic on here!)

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1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

What about the games against Everton, Krasnador, United, Seville, Southampton, West Brom, Liverpool this season? Still mistakes, still inconsistencies, still things to be worked on. 

Wouldn’t say we have completely resolved everything we struggled with last season, we have made good steps in the right direction yes with set pieces and more solid at times but to think we still don’t have weaknesses or are a complete team is naive. I mean Everton just showed us a valuable lesson at the weekend imo and I would not be surprised if Atletico and other teams follow suit against us. We still haven’t won any of our big games domestically this season also.

Also regardless of what people think about Atletico right now or think about Diego Simeone wouldn’t write them off yet, in terms of knockout football they are more than capable. Its not as if we arent favourites if thats what people think I meant, its just that the idea I am getting from posts on here is that we are basically through to the next round already because its only Atletico. Which couldn’t be further from the truth. Its a good opportunity to see where we are at. Particularly as they are a better side that what we have played in the CL already arguably. 

Games against Southampton, West Brom, the first fixture against Seville, United and Liverpool dont count. 

The team lineup was only shaping up then and the switch to 433 happened midway through the first Krasnodar fixture, which we won.

Bringing up the second Krasnodar is also unwarranted, because we played with a 3rd string squad for the match.

The only poor performance is against Everton., and that game is completely different from the rest of the examples you mentioned 

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16 minutes ago, Jason said:

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my winners

Shitty

Bayern

Bindippers

Juve

PSG (almost flip a coin level with a deeply troubled Barca)

Dortmund (Håland will be back by then)

Real

flip a coin (us v AM) <<< no way to spin it, other than MAYBE Barca, this one was the only team I feared drawing, smdh, we have horrid luck lately with draws

 

add in AC Milan and Spuds to those 10  teams (10 because I said flip a coin between us and AM and then almost flip a coin with PSG and Barca) and you have (literally) the 12 best teams in the world atm IMHO (as Inter are playing like dogshit)

 

potential upsets

Real going out to Atlanta (IF Atalanta are on their game and have sorted the Papu Gómez nightmare, if not, Real will destroy them)

Dortmund getting picked off by a disciplined Sevilla team

Barca (if you count it as an upset) beating PSG

 

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