The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[kmk108 1,186]

Dortmund fans don't seem too disappointed. First, we knew the team wasn't going to be good enough to actually win the Champions League (there's no real sense of "yeah but what if?" with this team). The team needs to focus on securing a Champions League spot next season. And, most importantly, it's just good that everyone's at least alive.

[LAM09 6,744]

2 hours ago, kmk108 said:

Dortmund fans don't seem too disappointed. First, we knew the team wasn't going to be good enough to actually win the Champions League (there's no real sense of "yeah but what if?" with this team). The team needs to focus on securing a Champions League spot next season. And, most importantly, it's just good that everyone's at least alive.

Some of the line up choices from Tuchel were questionable. They backfired within minutes. 

[communicate 2,703]

3 hours ago, kmk108 said:

Dortmund fans don't seem too disappointed. First, we knew the team wasn't going to be good enough to actually win the Champions League (there's no real sense of "yeah but what if?" with this team). The team needs to focus on securing a Champions League spot next season. And, most importantly, it's just good that everyone's at least alive.

I think last week incident change most dormund fans perspective

[Special Juan 27,424]

Great night for me, backed Monaco to win 3-1 and Mbappe first goal scorer. Mbappe was magical to watch, his holding of runs and turn of pace was out of this world. He ran the channels insanely well and ran the Dortmund back line a merry dance all night.

This Monaco side are not afraid to attack, in fact it's all they know which is great to watch. Mendy was another player who was excellent last night.

[Fulham Broadway 16,835]

13 hours ago, Johnnyeye said:

thats the tinkerman for you  , i feel you, that loss at OT still hurts , Jose´s style of play and tactics were great back then, his teams bullied the opposition in midfield and defense, while having strong and deadly stikers up front: Drogba, McCarthy, Milito, Ronaldo, etc but the game has changed a lot since then, its much more technical than physical / agressive these days and you can see what he´s trying to do with Pogba, just like when he had Essien, Makelele, and co. Nowadays players are more required to have that mix of physical and technical play, before you had the likes of Keane, Gattuso, Makelele, etc who would do all the dirty work in midfield and let the likes of Pirlo, Kaka, Scholes, Lampard, etc. shine more, now you have more complete players in midfield with ability on the ball and also that tackling ability, its like a requirement these days so you can have more control in midfield. am i making any sense ? Cheers

Yeah that makes perfect sense Johnny. Gattuso ! the beast. We have that midfield mix of technical and physical now with Cesc and Kante. Back to that 2004 team the defence was paramount in the success Cech, Ferreira, JT, Carvalho and Gallas -the midfield -as you say a mix of physical and technical in terms of fat Frank, Maka, Essien and the underated Tiago. The wings run by speedy Duff and brilliant but legs made of ice Robben. cutting inside to allow the fullbacks to overlap. and up front Gudjohnsen and deadly Drogba. I don't think I was ever more in awe of my team apart from the 1970 lineup. Mind you they aint bad now

[manpe 10,861]

13 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

 

Amazing, he surprises the world again with his talent. Hazard can only dream of losing the ball 38 times in a game, he has a long way to go before reaching Neymar the GOAT level 

EDIT: Even better - Neymar surrendered possession a staggering 46 times against Juventus... that's more than any player in the Champions League this season

Fuck Hazard when you have a turnover king like Neymar who can make a fancy pass once in a while that Eden supposedly can't. 

[Kieran. 6,317]

18 minutes ago, manpe said:

Amazing, he surprises the world again with his talent. Hazard can only dream of losing the ball 38 times in a game, he has a long way to go before reaching Neymar the GOAT level 

EDIT: Even better - Neymar surrendered possession a staggering 46 times against Juventus... that's more than any player in the Champions League this season

Fuck Hazard when you have a turnover king like Neymar who can make a fancy pass once in a while that Eden supposedly can't. 

Neymar's better than Hazard.

[manpe 10,861]

17 minutes ago, Kieran. said:

Neymar's better than Hazard.

At losing possession, sure.

[Rmpr 8,977]

2 hours ago, manpe said:

Amazing, he surprises the world again with his talent. Hazard can only dream of losing the ball 38 times in a game, he has a long way to go before reaching Neymar the GOAT level 

EDIT: Even better - Neymar surrendered possession a staggering 46 times against Juventus... that's more than any player in the Champions League this season

Fuck Hazard when you have a turnover king like Neymar who can make a fancy pass once in a while that Eden supposedly can't. 

It baffles my mind why one has to always be denigrated in order to praise the other. Neymar and Hazard are both great players and there's no need to create a rivalry where it doesnt exist.

But to your point, the same way Neymar was shit yesterday, he was spectacular against PSG. So it's easy to pick and choose which games to rate him by.

When taking everything in consideration, I honestly think Neymar is better than Hazard. He is a more complete player and more of a threat because he dribles better. However, that doesnt mean I want him at Chelsea and not Eden.

[manpe 10,861]

12 minutes ago, Rmpr said:

But to your point, the same way Neymar was shit yesterday, he was spectacular against PSG. So it's easy to pick and choose which games to rate him by.

I know. I just came here to troll those who jumped on Neymar's dick after that PSG game while criticizing Hazard. So I'm not even interested in having a debate on who's "better", I'm just interested in sticking those damning stats in those peoples' faces.

Bonus: He gave the ball away 41 times against the mighty Borussia Monchengladbach in the group stage and 38 times in the first leg against PSG. It cannot be confirmed whether his profligacy is an all-time record but it is the worst performance in terms of keeping the ball since Hulk in 2014, when the Zenit forward lost possession 41 times. Hulk > Neymar.

 

[Johnnyeye 7,440]

4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yeah that makes perfect sense Johnny. Gattuso ! the beast. We have that midfield mix of technical and physical now with Cesc and Kante. Back to that 2004 team the defence was paramount in the success Cech, Ferreira, JT, Carvalho and Gallas -the midfield -as you say a mix of physical and technical in terms of fat Frank, Maka, Essien and the underated Tiago. The wings run by speedy Duff and brilliant but legs made of ice Robben. cutting inside to allow the fullbacks to overlap. and up front Gudjohnsen and deadly Drogba. I don't think I was ever more in awe of my team apart from the 1970 lineup. Mind you they aint bad now

if i had to choose one Chelsea team from the last 20 years, it would definitely be the one from 2004-2006, it had everything: pace, power, technique, ruthlessness, never say die atittude, very solid at the back and dangerous in the middle and in attack, damn time flies so fast, now its time for a new dinasty. Cheers

[CHOULO19 24,332]

18 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Wanted Dortmund to win. Can't stand the tax avoiding entitled 'Principality'. (Mainly for when they knocked us out in 2004 )

Tbf, that was mostly Ranieri's doing!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

For me, what was sweeter than Juve deservedly going through to the semis, was the tantrums the catalans were throwing at not getting the usual bullshit decisions that they always get. The entitled twats were absolutely furious that a ref was not giving them calls for their diving and going down too easily and play acting and I loved every single second of it!  

[BlueLyon 9,359]

38 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

For me, what was sweeter than Juve deservedly going through to the semis, was the tantrums the catalans were throwing at not getting the usual bullshit decisions that they always get. The entitled twats were absolutely furious that a ref was not giving them calls for their diving and going down too easily and play acting and I loved every single second of it!  

Players were terrible indeed, but camp nou and fans...brilliant scenes at the end.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

5 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Players were terrible indeed, but camp nou and fans...brilliant scenes at the end.

I've massive respect for the Catalan Barca fans and the club itself for what it signifies for their are and its people, but players like Busquets and Neymar are a disgrace. 

[Special Juan 27,424]

United game is going to Extra Time and Zlatan has just done what Zouam did, looks like a hyper extension of the knee.

[Milan 17,853]

Hope to see United crash out of the cup in the semis.

[kmk108 1,186]

20 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Some of the line up choices from Tuchel were questionable. They backfired within minutes. 

Questionable lineup choices is the main criticism against Tuchel. He's a very tactical manager, sometimes to a fault. Sometimes you just have to decide on something and trust that it'll come together instead of over analyzing.