DDA 9,939 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Pogba running tings!Superb player!As for Man City in the opening 30 minutes. Embarassing to English football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Just like the first match in Manchester City are lucky to lose by just one. Juve pretty much dominate the match. City were well below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Imagine if we, Arsenal and United all ended up in the Europa League... Blue-in-me-Veins, Last Sicarius and Essien19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 English football at its finest this season.. Essien19 and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Imagine if we, Arsenal and United all ended up in the Europa League...[emoji38]I see that happening. Neither team are winning away in two weeks. Utd will be lucky to get a draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Both Mancs were very poor tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 United's last 8 results in all competitions:1-10-00-00-01-02-02-10-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 English teams will always suffer in Europe. Its the price for having too many games and a waaay too competitive league... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Utd should be ashamed. The difference between the two teams in terms of quality is gigantic. PSV's first XI players aren't even good enough to be squad players at a top side. They lost Depay and Wijnaldum in the summer as well. Willems isn't even playing. Same goes for Lestienne. That's their left flank.Massive credit to PSV. Talk about punching above your weight. Reddish-Blue and johnnythefirst 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 United's last 8 results in all competitions:1-10-00-00-01-02-02-10-0I cringe at the type of football they play. Very slow, annoying, no wingplay, no chances created... I know we are in a bad time but I wouldn't want our better times to be like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Chelsea v Porto, Olympiacos v Arsenal and Wolfsburg v Man United in two week's time. Should be fun.We only need a draw to qualify. Arsenal must win by at least 2 goals OR a 1 goal margin of 3-2 or higher to go through. United have to win to guarantee qualification. Otherwise, they will have to rely on the result in PSV v CSKA Moscow.City, on the other hand, look set to finish second in the group. Juventus only need 1 point against Sevilla to seal first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 English teams will always suffer in Europe. Its the price for having too many games and a waaay too competitive league...What games? FA Cup hasn't started so you're talking about League + League Cup games, of which there have been two I think. Too competitive doesn't make sense either. Everyone has a hard time winning bar Barca, Real, Bayern (and PSG). And even they often experience a tough time over the full 90 min but mask it with their firepower as they are capable of scoring at any time and score 3 goals in the space of 15-20 min. They trash teams in the CL as well.English teams suffer because they're normal teams nowadays, capable of winning or losing any game. Which wasn't the case in 04-09. marketing media pet, Reddish-Blue and Essien19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I cringe at the type of football they play. Very slow, annoying, no wingplay, no chances created... I know we are in a bad time but I wouldn't want our better times to be like that.We of all people know what that's like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 What games? FA Cup hasn't started so you're talking about League + League Cup games, of which there have been two I think. Too competitive doesn't make sense either. Everyone has a hard time winning bar Barca, Real, Bayern (and PSG). And even they often experience a tough time over the full 90 min but mask it with their firepower as they are capable of scoring at any time and score 3 goals in the space of 15-20 min. They trash teams in the CL as well.English teams suffer because they're normal teams nowadays, capable of winning or losing any game. Which wasn't the case in 04-09.:facepalm: DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I love how LvG can play "archaic" football by throwing on Fellaini and telling his wingers to lump it in the box. But when David Moyes does it, he has 'small club mentality' and Rio Ferdinand (or whoever it was) says that Man United deserve to play better football. And LvG has been at united for 2 years now. Got to love that hypocrisy from United fans and the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 What games? FA Cup hasn't started so you're talking about League + League Cup games, of which there have been two I think. Too competitive doesn't make sense either. Everyone has a hard time winning bar Barca, Real, Bayern (and PSG). And even they often experience a tough time over the full 90 min but mask it with their firepower as they are capable of scoring at any time and score 3 goals in the space of 15-20 min. They trash teams in the CL as well.English teams suffer because they're normal teams nowadays, capable of winning or losing any game. Which wasn't the case in 04-09.We don't have creative goalscorers(like Suarez, Neymar, robben, Lewandowski, Griezmann, Ibra etc) in England anymore. Aguero is the last breed.Other teams can easily turn on the style and score goals for fun while English teams struggle compared to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 We don't have creative goalscorers(like Suarez, Neymar, robben, Lewandowski, Griezmann, Ibra etc) in England anymore. Aguero is the last breed.Other teams can easily turn on the style and score goals for fun while English teams struggle compared to them.Aguero lost all his creativity years ago imo. He's become a finisher, just waiting for moments to strike. It's a shame because I loved him in his Atletico days. Of course he can still create his own chances by creating space for himself, if that's what you meant.English teams just keep spending money but the football and the system doesn't improve. I guess that's bound to happen when you can just spend 27 mil on a player like Cuadrado and just shrug your shoulders when he flops and move on the next buy. You become careless. You buy Pedro and all of a sudden he becomes a poor imitation of last year's Hazard. Can you perhaps explain to me why he is dribbling and taking so many touches? They'd chop his feet off at Barca if he did that there. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Aguero lost all his creativity years ago imo. He's become a finisher, just waiting for moments to strike. It's a shame because I loved him in his Atletico days. Of course he can still create his own chances by creating space for himself, if that's what you meant.English teams just keep spending money but the football and the system doesn't improve. I guess that's bound to happen when you can just spend 27 mil on a player like Cuadrado and just shrug your shoulders when he flops and move on the next buy. You become careless. You buy Pedro and all of a sudden he becomes a poor imitation of last year's Hazard. Can you perhaps explain to me why he is dribbling and taking so many touches? They'd chop his feet off at Barca if he did that there.So it is because English teams have money that Pedro is out of form?It doesn't matter how dumb English teams buy, in the forseeable future they can buy anyone they want and they will get lucky with their purchases more often than not. 80m€ for KDB? NO problem. Any decent player outside the top3 teams will want to come to the epl to earn better money, so even barca, bayern will need to get their players early or develop themselves cos epl teams will price all established targets away from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 You buy Pedro and all of a sudden he becomes a poor imitation of last year's Hazard. Can you perhaps explain to me why he is dribbling and taking so many touches? They'd chop his feet off at Barca if he did that there.He had a different role at Barca. Iniesta, Xavi and mainly Messi were the kings with most freedom, everyone else had to play their role in the system. Pedro was a winger with fixed tasks, like Cesc and Alexis, they all had limited freedom. Neymar also has a different role when Messi plays. At Chelsea he is brought as a big name, as a game changer, a starter. So that means a bigger role, more responsibility and more freedom, like Cesc last year. I have faith he will important for us, I think he was good in the last few games after his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 So it is because English teams have money that Pedro is out of form?It doesn't matter how dumb English teams buy, in the forseeable future they can buy anyone they want and they will get lucky with their purchases more often than not. 80m€ for KDB? NO problem. Any decent player outside the top3 teams will want to come to the epl to earn better money, so even barca, bayern will need to get their players early or develop themselves cos epl teams will price all established targets away from them. No. My question was how come Pedro joins Chelsea and all of a sudden plays a completely different type of football. He's doing things he's not supposed to do. I don't get it.How marvelous that sounds. Random buys and crap football. Maybe soon the majority of players will end up with a nomad career like Anelka.Nothing lasts forever though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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