The Roberto Di Matteo Thread

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Also I'm sure he's on a similar pay scale.

He took a HUGE pay cut to join Spurs. Something like half of what he was getting here IIRC. Andre comes from a very rich family, so the money is not really a big factor for him.

And he had been taking hits at Chelsea every step of the way. Pretty disgraceful.

Not really true, either. For some who's been asked about Chelsea more than Tottenham for most of his first season there, he did try his best not to make comments about us. He was also showed a lot of respect for us on several occasions like when we beat them at the lane 4-2 last season and he came out and said that we had too much quality for them and when he was asked about something Luiz has done he just said that David is a personal friend of his who he admires..etc. In fact, the first real "hit" he took at Chelsea was this season when we nicked Willian off them and he said that they were going to sign Lmella "unless someone steals him as well".

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Also I'm sure he's on a similar pay scale.

He took a HUGE pay cut to join Spurs. Something like half of what he was getting here IIRC. Andre comes from a very rich family, so the money is not really a big factor for him.

And he had been taking hits at Chelsea every step of the way. Pretty disgraceful.

Not really true, either. For some who's been asked about Chelsea more than Tottenham for most of his first season there, he did try his best not to make comments about us. He was also showed a lot of respect for us on several occasions like when we beat them at the lane 4-2 last season and he came out and said that we had too much quality for them and when he was asked about something Luiz has done he just said that David is a personal friend of his who he admires..etc. In fact, the first real "hit" he took at Chelsea was this season when we nicked Willian off them and he said that they were going to sign Lmella "unless someone steals him as well".

Perhaps you haven't been getting everything right.

I distinctly remember him making comments that Spuds provide a better working condition than what he had at the Bridge. Also he stated that he is happier at Spuds and not friends with Mour which started another row.

You never stick up to someone who said that he doesn't care about Chelsea.

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[CHOULO19 24,332]

Perhaps you haven't been getting everything right.

I distinctly remember him making comments that Spuds provide a better working condition than what he had at the Bridge. Also he stated that he is happier at Spuds and not friends with Mour which started another row.

You never stick up to someone who said that he doesn't care about Chelsea.

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The first is not really a hateful comment, rather just a fact. There is a lot less pressure at Tottenham than here. The second was after the Willian thing and it's not exactly a secret that he and Jose are not friends and Jose's response calling AVB childish is not much better.

Andre's not a bad guy. He's worked for Chelsea twice and did his absolute best both times.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

I've given AVB stick in the past but fair play to the guy for jumping back into management to prove people who doubted him wrong.

Robbie's problem is that, with all due respect, he's not that great of a manager so why would he deal with all that stress when he's got a regular paycheque coming in? Yes he's a legend (moreso as a player for me, than a coach) but being realistic he's done bloody well for himself with that deal. Can't blame the club either because this type of deal actually makes more sense than a guaranteed payoff....so long as the coach you sack has aspirations to take up another job.

Completely agree..if Robbie was an aspiring, enthuasiastic manager, he would have taken a job at a mid-table club by now.

Sure, he'd be dealing with stress and a tight wage/transfer budget...but if you truly love the game of football, you wouldn't sit around and wait for the perfect job offer.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Completely agree..if Robbie was an aspiring, enthuasiastic manager, he would have taken a job at a mid-table club by now.

Sure, he'd be dealing with stress and a tight wage/transfer budget...but if you truly love the game of football, you wouldn't sit around and wait for the perfect job offer.

Fuck off, the man won the Champions League, why should he manage Fulham now ?

TalkChelsea is not what it once was, the quality of the posters is weaker day by day. Especially since Munich there is so much shit being written, its beyond me.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I've given AVB stick in the past but fair play to the guy for jumping back into management to prove people who doubted him wrong.

Robbie's problem is that, with all due respect, he's not that great of a manager so why would he deal with all that stress when he's got a regular paycheque coming in? Yes he's a legend (moreso as a player for me, than a coach) but being realistic he's done bloody well for himself with that deal. Can't blame the club either because this type of deal actually makes more sense than a guaranteed payoff....so long as the coach you sack has aspirations to take up another job.

That is complete bullshit!

Of the last 4 managers we sacked, only AVB decided to go to another club while receiving payments from the club. Scolari and Ancelotti both waited until the undisclosed clause ended and they are acomplished individuals...

RDM did more than everyone expected and you should have more respect towards him. All he is doing is waiting so he can get the money he so deserves and there is not a single problem with that. He is not hiding or avoiding stress or whatever, he is only guaranteeing a financial stability before he resumes his career. Dont be a hypocrite and say you would also deny 130k/week to coach Fulham!!!

AVB only accepted the Spurs offer because he was so eager to prove to everyone that he could be at a high level and because they had a very competitive team. If it wasnt for those two decisive factors, he would be cashing in just like all our other previous managers.

No, I dont think Di Matteo is a fantastic manager nor I think he will be able to repeat the things he did with Chelsea. However, it is pathetic to insinuate he is bad and afraid to accept another job just because he wants his payoff.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Deserves every penny.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Fuck off, the man won the Champions League, why should he manage Fulham now ?

TalkChelsea is not what it once was, the quality of the posters is weaker day by day. Especially since Munich there is so much shit being written, its beyond me.

This is completely uncalled for. He only expressed an opinion which he is totally entitled to. You complain about the "quality" of the forum and yet you attack and insult a member just because you don't agree with his opinion..

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

That is complete bullshit!

Of the last 4 managers we sacked, only AVB decided to go to another club while receiving payments from the club. Scolari and Ancelotti both waited until the undisclosed clause ended and they are acomplished individuals...

RDM did more than everyone expected and you should have more respect towards him. All he is doing is waiting so he can get the money he so deserves and there is not a single problem with that. He is not hiding or avoiding stress or whatever, he is only guaranteeing a financial stability before he resumes his career. Dont be a hypocrite and say you would also deny 130k/week to coach Fulham!!!

AVB only accepted the Spurs offer because he was so eager to prove to everyone that he could be at a high level and because they had a very competitive team. If it wasnt for those two decisive factors, he would be cashing in just like all our other previous managers.

No, I dont think Di Matteo is a fantastic manager nor I think he will be able to repeat the things he did with Chelsea. However, it is pathetic to insinuate he is bad and afraid to accept another job just because he wants his payoff.

Actually from what I heard, AvB was willing to go back to Portugal to keep his mind in the game.

He is an eager learner, wants to do his best and loves the game of football.

AvB was going to get a job sooner rather than later..considering the recent trend towards younger managers.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

This is completely uncalled for. He only expressed an opinion which he is totally entitled to. You complain about the "quality" of the forum and yet you attack and insult a member just because you don't agree with his opinion..

Nah, this is just a cherry on the top of all the bullshit I keep on reading here. It has nothing to do with that particular member, because I quoted him for the first or second time. This is a general feeling I've been having for quite some time, and not just me but some other members who have been here longer than I have.

I believe the quality posters have stopped writing because they see no sense in wasting their time trying to prove some points to, and I don't care if you ban me now, idiots.

TC was a great place once, now its a shadow of that place. Go figure why.

PS. Cult of RDM !

[ZanSnake 1,211]

He have us the 'holy grail' in a time which could have been with disaster or good-willing. The knowledge which he has within managerial experience withheld us, but will prospect him to a more respectful career. I will always respect Roberto to over-coming the odds to gain what we have eluded with the Jose year foreword, but was never going to succeed due to the fact of lack of experience. Maybe one day he gain regain the same light he had, but he is always iconic to this football club - as a player, and as a part-time manager.

[Tomo 21,751]

He have us the 'holy grail' in a time which could have been with disaster or good-willing. The knowledge which he has within managerial experience withheld us, but will prospect him to a more respectful career. I will always respect Roberto to over-coming the odds to gain what we have eluded with the Jose year foreword, but was never going to succeed due to the fact of lack of experience. Maybe one day he gain regain the same light he had, but he is always iconic to this football club - as a player, and as a part-time manager.

I agree, when he got the job full time my heart was saying it's fate we have found our long term manager in the most unlikely way etc etc, but my head has niggling doubts that just wouldn't go away. They were doing constant battle with eachother for the whole of the close season in 2012. Then when he got replaced by Benitez my heart was disgusted and spitting feathers while my head (begrudgingly) knew it was the right thing to do in the grande scheme of things, which was right as i believe Rafa left Jose a better situation then Robbie would have.

Having said that Robbie was the perfect man for the moment in adversity and he deserves all the praise he gets for his management in the interim spell, yes we had our fair share of luck in winning it, but the way he united everyone and we got on with the 2 knockout competition's was amazing. Munich was perfect karma or him and Eddie after having their career's cut short by injury problems, it really was.

But he had a completely different remit when taking the job on full time, almost a polar opposite of what was expected in the interim spell.

I hope Robbie gets another job in football soon and to say i will watch with interest will be an understatement.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

And how well would Mourinho have done with last year's team? We've spend tens of millions since RDM left and really aren't playing a whole lot better. Do you think this Chelsea team would have gotten out of last year's CL group? Also, people don't appreciate how incredibly difficult Chelsea's schedule was under RDM (and how easy it was under Benitez). RDM managed us for 19 competitive game last season, That's just 2 fewer than Jose has had this season. In those, we faced Juventus twice,, ManU, away to Arsenal and Spurs, and Shakhtar twice. That's an insane number of difficult games and very few easy ones. People also don't appreciate how short the awful spell before he was fired was (i.e. how they obviously wanted to fire him and were looking for an excuse to do so). We beat Spurs away handily on October 20th. We played very well against ManU after the first 20 minutes but had an awful red which gave them the game (and an offside goal) and then we beat them in the League Cup. We then had a 5 game period where we went 1-2-2. (And not one of those games was an easy one. Losses away to WBA who was 5th in the league at that time and away to Juventus . Draws at Swansea when we rested most of our starters and at home to Liverpool and a win against Shakhtar.) The way RDM was treated was ridiculous and will always remain so. This year, we were beaten at home by Basel and we have terrible refereeing to thank for not drawing at home to Villa and losing at home to WBA. Are we better than last year? Yes, by a little. But we also added Eto'o, Ba, Willian, Schurrle, and De Bruyne since Robbie left so we damn well should be better. Managerial genius and fault is almost always to do with talent and money available.

[DDA 9,924]

I've given AVB stick in the past but fair play to the guy for jumping back into management to prove people who doubted him wrong.

Robbie's problem is that, with all due respect, he's not that great of a manager so why would he deal with all that stress when he's got a regular paycheque coming in? Yes he's a legend (moreso as a player for me, than a coach) but being realistic he's done bloody well for himself with that deal. Can't blame the club either because this type of deal actually makes more sense than a guaranteed payoff....so long as the coach you sack has aspirations to take up another job.

What's the dealio?

[The only place to be 11,313]

That is complete bullshit!

Of the last 4 managers we sacked, only AVB decided to go to another club while receiving payments from the club. Scolari and Ancelotti both waited until the undisclosed clause ended and they are acomplished individuals...

RDM did more than everyone expected and you should have more respect towards him. All he is doing is waiting so he can get the money he so deserves and there is not a single problem with that. He is not hiding or avoiding stress or whatever, he is only guaranteeing a financial stability before he resumes his career. Dont be a hypocrite and say you would also deny 130k/week to coach Fulham!!!

AVB only accepted the Spurs offer because he was so eager to prove to everyone that he could be at a high level and because they had a very competitive team. If it wasnt for those two decisive factors, he would be cashing in just like all our other previous managers.

No, I dont think Di Matteo is a fantastic manager nor I think he will be able to repeat the things he did with Chelsea. However, it is pathetic to insinuate he is bad and afraid to accept another job just because he wants his payoff.

Sometimes I read your posts and don't know whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me. I can see you really want to disagree with me but you're struggling to find a reason to.

It's laughable.

Actually from what I heard, AvB was willing to go back to Portugal to keep his mind in the game.

He is an eager learner, wants to do his best and loves the game of football.

AvB was going to get a job sooner rather than later..considering the recent trend towards younger managers.

AVB is a manager. That's all he's ever wanted to be and he was always going to make a swift return because he's a stubborn arsehole. I dislike certain things about him but you have to give him credit for this.

Robbie was a footballer. That was his dream and he achieved it, but it was cut short by injury. Now he's tried forging a career as a coach and despite leading us to CL glory, I think he's somewhat limited ability-wise. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but he doesn't seem to have this overriding desire to get back into management and prove to people that it wasn't a fluke and that's absolutely understandable. I'm not castigating the guy as some people think I am.

The way RDM was treated was ridiculous and will always remain so.

At the time, yes. But in hindsight it was probably the right thing to do. He was never a coach for the long-term and through no small amount of luck we've ended up with the right guy in charge once again.

I've probably said it before but the CL win was more to do with Jose than Robbie. It wasn't just the players like Cech and Drogba who were moulded by Jose that were key to our win, but the defiant spirit that he engendered in his time here and that survived long after he went.

Robbie deserves credit for what he did at a difficult time for us, but there's a reason he's not been snapped up by another big club since he left us.