How can Chelsea claim to be rebuilding...

[zolayes 14,489]

yes, "transition" is the right word. And sacking the manager won't be a good idea, I don't want us to become like Palermo fc (13 managers in 11 years)! we have to rebuild, ok, but it has to be done gradually.

At the start of the season almost everyone here accepted the idea of transition,, targets were lowered . people werent expecting a trophy

filled year.As the season has progressed it has become the transition isnt going to be seamless or painless.In the last two weeks

the situation has deteriorated Imo.

To use an analogy ,,,our house need a renovation, perhaps double glazing ,,an extension for a nursery.

Disaster as the surveyors found dry rot , wet rot ,,,sinking foundations... Their considered analysis demolition and a complete rebuild.

Who to trust is a matter of individual opinion. Mine is to trust AVB sadly in the demolition some well loved rooms must go.

[kiaretta985 131]

At the start of the season almost everyone here accepted the idea of transition,, targets were lowered . people werent expecting a trophy

filled year.As the season has progressed it has become the transition isnt going to be seamless or painless.In the last two weeks

the situation has deteriorated Imo.

To use an analogy ,,,our house need a renovation, perhaps double glazing ,,an extension for a nursery.

Disaster as the surveyors found dry rot , wet rot ,,,sinking foundations... Their considered analysis demolition and a complete rebuild.

Who to trust is a matter of individual opinion. Mine is to trust AVB sadly in the demolition some well loved rooms must go.

Mine too, actually. Tbh I was expecting more from the transfer windows, both in and out.

[zolayes 14,489]

Mine too, actually. Tbh I was expecting more from the transfer windows, both in and out.

Mine too, actually. Tbh I was expecting more from the transfer windows, both in and out.

there will be departures in Summer less arrivals I hope as we must start using our young.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Why do we keep saying it's a transitional season yet we we've only signed 1 new player who gets a chance (Mata) and our youth are still nowhere near the first team ? Why don't we try something different ? Why is Ashley Cole still one of the untouchables ?

How is that 'transition' ?

The manager must admit his mistakes and correct them. He hasn't done that so far.

[Santiago. 1,500]

Lampard- needs to become a sub

Terry - needs to be rotated, with the future revolving around Luiz and Cahill

A.Cole and Bertrand- need to be seeing the same amount of game time

Ivanovic - has a couple good years left in him at RB

Kalou- SUB

Miereles- SUB

Bosingwa- OUT (Pure Shit)

Mikel-OUT (Style of Football not reflect the future of this club)

Drogba- OUT (Age got the better of him)

Malouda- OUT( Pure Shit and not passionate)

Torres- Give till the end of the season

[zolayes 14,489]

not a lot I would disagree with there. But if Lampard is going to disrupt things then he must go . Personally I would also rotate Courtois with Petr

[Wavy Crockett 190]

Kalou must be kept at all costs..

[warnie_666 1,081]

Transition is not all about players but is also about the manager. We have a new manager and you can't just expect him to walk in and win you trophies. He will first come in and assess the team and try to play with a certain style and formation in the first season. I am sure AVB has realized that this team is well past it's sell date. Then he will buy new players to suite his style and formation. Note that he loves to play high defense line and hence he bought in Cahill who is one of the quickest CBs.

Torres, Drogba, Malouda, Kalou, Bosingwa, Ferriera, Essien need to go.

Hazard, Cavanni, Willian, RB, Josh

Forwards: Cavanni, Studge, Willian, Hazard, Mata

Midfielders: Romeu, Mikel, Ramirez, Lampard, Meireles, Josh

Defenders: Cole, Bertand, Cahill, Terry, Luiz, Ivanovic, RB, Billy Clifford

GK: Cech, Hilario, Turnbull

Formation: 4-2-3-1

[zolayes 14,489]

watch the youth team now ,,,encouraging so far

[Wavy Crockett 190]

I think Cavani is overrated on here, yes he has excelled at Napoli but he's not world class directly..

[communicate 2,703]

Everybody complains about why don't we bring more players in last summer and January transfer.

I'm pretty sure avb wanted to buy somebody, I remembered he wanted perreira but he was too expensive for Chelsea

He wanted modric and in the end he got Meireles

Selling players especially legendary player like Lampard, Drogba is very difficult.

AVB needed full support from the club in order to do that (like what Mourinho did with raul in Madrid).

I still believe Lampard can still contribute in squad like what scholes and giggs does with mu. But he has to be willing to accept reduce role which I don't believe he can because in mu nobody is bigger than sir alex but in chelsea whenever chelsea play bad = manager out

[Santiago. 1,500]

I think Cavani is overrated on here, yes he has excelled at Napoli but he's not world class directly..

Performs at top level for Club and Country, something Messi lacks to do

[Beirut_Blues 306]

When we haven't gotten rid of anyone? Peter Chec, Terry, Lampard and Drogba are the old chelsea and we all know this. yet we claimed this would be a transition year and these guys are still around. how can we not transfer any player that was over 30 last summer? simple example of how these veterans are affecting our team.

Vs Man city, we got a penalty and Mata was gonna take it, but Lampard, being on the field for about 10min, steps to the spot instead, and Mata had to step back and let lamps take it.

Vs Villa (i think) Drogba takes the penalty when it seemed Mata was the designated PK taker without lamps that day.

By none of these examples I'm i trying to say lamps and grogba were selfish or even wrong. But it pretty obvious that Mata, who has performed better than Lamps n drogs (imo) has less power in the squad than these older guards.

We need to replace these players. Lampard needs to be replaced, not just in the first 11. Drogba also. These players are too "powerful" which blocks our new players from expressing themselves. We simply should not bring Lampard, Drogba, Malouda, and Kalou back.

Messi was good with Ronaldinho around, but the second Ronaldinho left, Messi became a world beater. Players step up when they have a leadership role. You shouldn't waste your leadership roles on players that are losing a step. My suggestions for Chelsea:

Transfers this summer:

Lampard - great player, but his accomplishments make it hard to drop him to bench. It also makes it harder for younger players to take leadership roles.

Drogba - similar to Lampard's situation

Torres - I don't think our team fits him

Malouda, Kalou, Bosingwa, Feriera(?) and Raul Mierales are wild cards. only replace them if there's alternatives.

Bring in:

(My bring in is obviously assuming everything works like a video game and there's really no intangibles blocking the transfers)

Di Maria - seems to want out, He's the best winger in the world; we need a winger -40mil

Ayew - also a very promising winger that tracks back. he'll be pretty cheap and doesn't have to start many games for Chelsea. he seems a hard working. -15mil

Hazard -not as big a priority as Di Maria but he can become an awesome player here. 35mil

a CF - not sure if there's a better option than Cavani but we should certainly try to bring one in. Danny boy cannot be our main CF going into the next year. he will be a backup CF and RW, if he's not happy and underperforms we should look at Willian or another winger that's not as "ambitious" as Danny boy seems to be.. CF - 30mil

This spending spree will cost about 120mill. around 90 mill if you add our player sales.

Our typical match day squad

4231

------------------Chec

Ivan-------Luiz-------Terry------Cole

-----------Ramirez--Romeu-----------

Di Maria--------Mata-----------Hazard

------------------Cavani?--------------------

Bench-- Turnbull, Stturidge. Cahill, Essien, Ayew, Josh M?

Words of honey bro nice post.

[Beirut_Blues 306]

It's not going to happen overnight. You can't just sell a player like Lamps, Drogs, Terry etc. If the other club doesn't agree with there wage demands, they won't leave! The only hope is if these MLS or cashed up russian teams come in and agree to pay them overs. Besides, getting rid of experienced players will only get you another Arsenal team. I know most of you find it hard to believe, but having experince in the aquad is just as important as anything else. Man united have proved that in the last 20 years..

Man United have proven that with the same manager for that whole period... Our experienced players sometimes seem like they don't want to adapt (esp. Lamps n Drogs)..

As "Chelsea?" said about Lamps taking the penalty instead of Mata (AVB assigned Mata to take them). That's just givin us a clue of the attitude of some senior players... You want experience keep Cole n Terry.. Lampard and Drogba don't seem too happy to adapt.

[Liquidator 5,176]

The rebuilding started at the end of 2009/10 when Joe Cole, Belletti, Deco and Ballack and Carvalho left although Carvalho and Ballack should have stayed another season IMO because our squad was thread bare around Winter time when we had injuries and suspensions. However this did not continue in the Summer of 2011. The only first teamer we got rid of was Yuri Zhirkov and the rest were all reserve players. We should have acted and sold 2 or 3 more players in the Summer. AVB wanted time to evaluate the squad but surely the board were intelligent enough to judge which players should have been moved on in June and July time. But once again the board did sweet fuck all to help the team. I don't blame AVB for wanting to evaluate the squad though. For example, Malouda was like a new player under Ancelotti.

The rebuilding is a slow process because we have such a solid 'core' of players that joined in 2004 plus Lampard and Terry. This Summer should be busy like in 2004 if we are to remain competitive but we should not forget that Bertrand, McEachran, Lukaku, Piazon and Hutchinson are all available. A decent winger, right back (if Hutch is not good enough) and a new striker would be good in an ideal world with several players leaving. These would be Torres, Mikel, Drogba, Malouda, Bosingwa, Ferreira, Hilario for me. If we want to remain competitive then we need to spend some but the youth must not be forgotten.

[Idiot 71]

. These would be Torres, Mikel, Malouda, Bosingwa, Ferreira, Hilario for me. If we want to remain competitive then we need to spend some but the youth must not be forgotten.

Why would you stick to Drogba f.e.? With only these players leaving "the core" would be still as strong and present as ever

[Liquidator 5,176]

Why would you stick to Drogba f.e.? With only these players leaving "the core" would be still as strong and present as ever

fixed that for you. Lampard as well if he wants to leave

[communicate 2,703]

Btw even if we do not buy anybody next season

Our starting 11 will be:

Torres

Kdb - mata - Sturridge

Essien - Meireles

Cole - Luiz - Cahill - Ivanovic

Cech

I like that starting 11 and I wish we can sell torres and get a new striker.