Barbara 15,149 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 set the world alright again today I suppose? I haven't watched and as there not one single comment on this thread I can't say.Since now it seems ridiculous to compare Hazard and Neymar, I wonder when will the comparisons between Neymar and de Bruyne will start.People already say he's a top 5 in the world. So I suppose behind MSN and Ronaldo, Kevin is next one? Or is he better than Ronaldo? (It's really hard to argue against MSN). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_volrath 61 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 He was horrible Gave the ball away sooo many times, horrible passing %. He's a flat track bully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 This thread is obviously bipolar. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 set the world alright again today I suppose? I haven't watched and as there not one single comment on this thread I can't say.Since now it seems ridiculous to compare Hazard and Neymar, I wonder when will the comparisons between Neymar and de Bruyne will start.People already say he's a top 5 in the world. So I suppose behind MSN and Ronaldo, Kevin is next one? Or is he better than Ronaldo? (It's really hard to argue against MSN).I actually have no idea who comes behind Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo. Neymar is putting his foot next to the older two this season - I underestimated him. None of the others come even close, although I think Ronaldo is going to decline rapidly in the next two years, he doesn't seem that interested anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 set the world alright again today I suppose? I haven't watched and as there not one single comment on this thread I can't say.Since now it seems ridiculous to compare Hazard and Neymar, I wonder when will the comparisons between Neymar and de Bruyne will start.People already say he's a top 5 in the world. So I suppose behind MSN and Ronaldo, Kevin is next one? Or is he better than Ronaldo? (It's really hard to argue against MSN). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I actually have no idea who comes behind Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo. Neymar is putting his foot next to the older two this season - I underestimated him. None of the others come even close, although I think Ronaldo is going to decline rapidly in the next two years, he doesn't seem that interested anymore. Suarez clearly Simon1991 and Mana 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Benched today.This fantasy season gets worse every week it seems... Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Benched today.This fantasy season gets worse every week it seems...My goalie Butland is keeping me up, lol. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 27, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 27, 2015 He was great today. Bit of a flat track bully but he should've been the one, honestly. It should've been Hazard - KDB - Willian. Damn it Jose. Hybrid Angel, Stingray, The Mak and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stats 7,142 Posted December 27, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 27, 2015 Thought all the ams played decent... Not to great, not to bad.Still, they are all a level or more below David Silva's play.... When KDB play behind the striker, he was quite invisible and when he was on the flanks he seem to play much better.... However, this isn't wolfsburg where he is MR. everything. 15 assists the whole season will never happen, let alone just the epl season, since he will not take even half the set pieces and City don't play counter football... I would predict 5 goals and 5 assists, unless he is given all the set piece responsibility....Granted your not the main cog to the team and option number 4-5, 5g and 5assist is reasonable output (however, not reasonable for the transfer fee). If you watched the game, KDB lost the ball more than once.http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1017572/LiveStatistics/Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2015-2016-Manchester-City-JuventusIn addition, you would know that Juventus attacked his side consistently after his introduction. Sterling was bad going forward, lost the ball numerous times as well, however, he still somewhat puts a better shift than KDB defensively. It literally looked like Cuadrado was going right through KDB as if he was invisible on the left side. Nasri is slowly going to get his place back in the starting 11 and the fact that man City hasn't put KDB as their official corner taker and set piece taker, your so called 15 assists is near impossible to getOh dear, oh dear Already on 10 goals for City this season and has made 10 assists for them already. 6 of those goals have been in the PL, 1 goal in the UCL and 8 of those assists have been in the PL too. You probably will say the COC is irrelevant so that is why I pointed that out.You predicted 5 goals and 5 assists. KDB has completely squashed that prediction. Now let's see if he makes that 15 assists you said is impossible for him to make. 5 more assists for him to make to also squash your second prediction which you said is "near impossible".Have not seen you on here for a while but I would love to see what you have to say about Oscar being a better fit for us than KDB now. You also said we would win more games with him as no.10 than we would with KDB in the team. Just...I think people on here actually need to accept KDB is a world class player and is only 24.One of Jose's biggest mistakes was not giving KDB a proper chance. If only.... Muzchap, positivefootball, Hybrid Angel and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 That cross for the Sterling header was immense. I keep saying it but that quality of delivery from either wings is massively missed at Chelsea, whether it be Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Hazard, Pedro or Willian. The Mak and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Oh dear, oh dear Already on 10 goals for City this season and has made 10 assists for them already. 6 of those goals have been in the PL, 1 goal in the UCL and 8 of those assists have been in the PL too. You probably will say the COC is irrelevant so that is why I pointed that out.You predicted 5 goals and 5 assists. KDB has completely squashed that prediction. Now let's see if he makes that 15 assists you said is impossible for him to make. 5 more assists for him to make to also squash your second prediction which you said is "near impossible".Have not seen you on here for a while but I would love to see what you have to say about Oscar being a better fit for us than KDB now. You also said we would win more games with him as no.10 than we would with KDB in the team. Just...I think people on here actually need to accept KDB is a world class player and is only 24.One of Jose's biggest mistakes was not giving KDB a proper chance. If only....Burnnnnnnn [emoji23][emoji23][emoji106]I completely forgot about that statement. Nice to see it debunked. The Mak and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossie the King 634 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 The guy did get a shot here but he wanted more. That's fair enough and José accommodated that wish by allowing him to leave.Yes it would be lovely to have kept him and hindsight is 20/20 for those wishing to rake over past mistakes but the interesting discussion is surely on how we learn from this going forward. Essien19 and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Oh dear, oh dear Already on 10 goals for City this season and has made 10 assists for them already. 6 of those goals have been in the PL, 1 goal in the UCL and 8 of those assists have been in the PL too. You probably will say the COC is irrelevant so that is why I pointed that out.You predicted 5 goals and 5 assists. KDB has completely squashed that prediction. Now let's see if he makes that 15 assists you said is impossible for him to make. 5 more assists for him to make to also squash your second prediction which you said is "near impossible".Have not seen you on here for a while but I would love to see what you have to say about Oscar being a better fit for us than KDB now. You also said we would win more games with him as no.10 than we would with KDB in the team. Just...I think people on here actually need to accept KDB is a world class player and is only 24.One of Jose's biggest mistakes was not giving KDB a proper chance. If only....Erm how about no, even Oscar (your favourite boo boy) was fantastic against Sunderland? So is Oscar world class too? No, the first quality opposition he came up against was Arsenal and he was anonymous, actually no, he was fucking terrible and couldn't string a pass together, both are not big characters and I bet every pound I have that if he was still here he would be getting stick for being a no show against teams in the top 7 and he would be in the same funk as the rest of the players.This needs to stop, neither Oscar nor KdB nor Mata is what we need; we need a midfielder like Pogba and that's the end of it.By the way when City brought him I said they would be a top heavy team and when a team take the game to them they pack in, which is why they won't win the title. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Erm how about no, even Oscar (your favourite boo boy) was fantastic against Sunderland? So is Oscar world class too? No, the first quality opposition he came up against was Arsenal and he was anonymous, actually no, he was fucking terrible and couldn't string a pass together, both are not big characters and I bet every pound I have that if he was still here he would be getting stick for being a no show against teams in the top 7 and he would be in the same funk as the rest of the players.This needs to stop, neither Oscar nor KdB nor Mata is what we need; we need a midfielder like Pogba and that's the end of it.By the way when City brought him I said they would be a top heavy team and when a team take the game to them they pack in, which is why they won't win the title.So you say:"A world class midfielder like KDB, who's smashing opposition in his first real PL season, is not what we need..."Sure! I get your point... Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Erm how about no, even Oscar (your favourite boo boy) was fantastic against Sunderland? So is Oscar world class too? No, the first quality opposition he came up against was Arsenal and he was anonymous, actually no, he was fucking terrible and couldn't string a pass together, both are not big characters and I bet every pound I have that if he was still here he would be getting stick for being a no show against teams in the top 7 and he would be in the same funk as the rest of the players.This needs to stop, neither Oscar nor KdB nor Mata is what we need; we need a midfielder like Pogba and that's the end of it.By the way when City brought him I said they would be a top heavy team and when a team take the game to them they pack in, which is why they won't win the title.Erm, how about get your facts right. He is not my favourite boo boy btw. I voted him MOTM against Sunderland. I remember against Spurs, others said he done shit, I thought he was decent however he is in a position where you expect more from a no.10, especially when other better players such as Mata and especially KDB left and Oscar was trusted, his performances are going to be scrutinized more and rightly so. Do I often think he is the weak link in our team? Yes I do. Can we do with an upgrade? Yes, we could. And to compare one world class performance from Oscar in 2-3 years is a ridiculous comparison. KDB has had plenty of those games. For the record I actually thought him and Toure (second half) were two of the more better players in that Arsenal game.And no it does not need to stop because it is a KDB thread and I will write what I want regarding him thanks. Yeah, we could do with a midfielder like Pogba but that is such bullshit to think KDB would not be an upgrade on this team.And FWIW, I still reckon they will win the title and like I have stated before it is the smaller games that might go a long way to winning them the title.. Anyway, you have any agenda against KDB so not really surprised.And you know what is funny. I only mentioned Oscar once because someone stated he would be a better fit. All my other post was based on KDB. You just gone on this rant and assumed I have slated Oscar when I have not. I stated the truth that it was a ridiculous assumption to say we will win more with Oscar than KDB. And that is the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I still see him as a player who shines against small teams and disappears against big or decent ones. This thread went literally 2 weeks without any post when I prompted it. I knew the moment he smashed an almighty team like Sunderland it would come to life again. As I said, it's enough to shine against small teams. Thing is people say a lot about how our current team is awful, but City with their great team, is rallying after Leicester and Arsenal. Even if Pellegrini is a moron, the quality of the team alone should have them carrying away with the title. But they didn't exactly show a lot against big or decent teams have they? On the other hand, I do admit I'm not looking forward to them having Guardiola though. Coop and Cosmin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted December 27, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 27, 2015 De Bruyne is a flat track bully who only turns up against smaller teams and not the bigger ones?Seems 'strange' coming from some people when they probably didn't mind Fabregas doing the same thing last season. Ainsley Harriott, Hybrid Angel, Stats and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I still see him as a player who shines against small teams and disappears against big or decent ones. This thread went literally 2 weeks without any post when I prompted it. I knew the moment he smashed an almighty team like Sunderland it would come to life again. As I said, it's enough to shine against small teams. Thing is people say a lot about how our current team is awful, but City with their great team, is rallying after Leicester and Arsenal. Even if Pellegrini is a moron, the quality of the team alone should have them carrying away with the title. But they didn't exactly show a lot against big or decent teams have they?On the other hand, I do admit I'm not looking forward to them having Guardiola though.So maybe that is down to the manager's tactics? Silva was equally poor as well yet he is considered a world class player but don't really see people saying the same about him. Let's not forget that KDB but on a masterclass against Bayern last year. Who cares if he has not done it against the big teams really? United, they played defensive. Arsenal, Pellegrini got the tacticd wrong. KDB missed a sitter but I thought he was their most impressive player that night. He was the only one bar Toure who was looking like making something happen.Like I said, he has not been standout in the big games. However he has been great in his first season and there is no two ways about it. He was a big game player against Sevilla that night. Great individual goal which set them on the way forward in the UCL. The smaller games might actually be the games that win them the title like I said when you look at the table, end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Erm, how about get your facts right. He is not my favourite boo boy btw. I voted him MOTM against Sunderland. I remember against Spurs, others said he done shit, I thought he was decent however he is in a position where you expect more from a no.10, especially when other better players such as Mata and especially KDB left and Oscar was trusted, his performances are going to be scrutinized more and rightly so. Do I often think he is the weak link in our team? Yes I do. Can we do with an upgrade? Yes, we could. And to compare one world class performance from Oscar in 2-3 years is a ridiculous comparison. KDB has had plenty of those games. For the record I actually thought him and Toure (second half) were two of the more better players in that Arsenal game.And no it does not need to stop because it is a KDB thread and I will write what I want regarding him thanks. Yeah, we could do with a midfielder like Pogba but that is such bullshit to think KDB would not be an upgrade on this team.And FWIW, I still reckon they will win the title and like I have stated before it is the smaller games that might go a long way to winning them the title.. Anyway, you have any agenda against KDB so not really surprised.And you know what is funny. I only mentioned Oscar once because someone stated he would be a better fit. All my other post was based on KDB. You just gone on this rant and assumed I have slated Oscar when I have not. I stated the truth that it was a ridiculous assumption to say we will win more with Oscar than KDB. And that is the truth.No, neither are what we need - my point is that we will not win more with KdB than we do with Oscar now because it will just add to the same problem; small game players. Fabregas is a small game player, but in 14/15 we had enough big game players to balance it out. It seems Drogba made the difference. Look at that City team now; most are small game players which is why they rely on Aguero and Toure to fire, and if both do not then they don't win.I have an agenda against KdB? No, I've just had enough of people saying he would solve our problems when he would not. He would exacerbate them, yesterday against Watford we had to send on Mikel to shore up the midfield even with Oscar in there. We need an upgrade on Oscar but the answer is certainly not KdB and certainly not Mata; we need a CM like Pogba and that's the end of it, and only then should we consider another #10 - but it's more likely Hazard would slot in there.You're not thinking in terms of an overall impact of the team, you're thinking on an individual basis. KdB has quality, I'm not denying that but he won't work in a team with Fabregas and Hazard in there. We would literally become an embodiment of Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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