Rom2013 446 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Just stating facts, something rarely seen from your partWhat facts do you want? One of the facts is that he was horrible in the time he was here, you have there one fact... on the other hand he has a great record in a smaller team in Germany. 2 facts.Now tell us where is the big mistake we did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted March 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 19, 2015 The two aren't mutually exclusive, Cesc could still do likewise in the prem this year yet imo Barca didn't make a mistake letting him go.Perhaps it wasn't a mistake letting him go at the time, in that particular situation, for that kind of money. The mistake is on Mourinho for not seeing obvious talent right in front of him. Ainsley Harriott, Bosnian Blue, zolayes and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 The two aren't mutually exclusive, Cesc could still do likewise in the prem this year yet imo Barca didn't make a mistake letting him go.Exactly, for example this.And even more clear Callejon has great numbers in Napoli and he wouldn't have any chance in Madrid. The next great example will be Jese in Madrid that is a great player will score a ton of goals out of Madrid and play like a star but maybe for this Madrid he doesn't have the quality to play there (And I would buy Jese for Chelsea because maybe he will be really good).Alexis was 1 more player in Barcelona and is the star f this League or one of the 5 best players in the League.How many examples you want more?And many of them proved they are great palyers for great teams something that De Bruyne couldn't do here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 What facts do you want? One of the facts is that he was horrible in the time he was here, you have there one fact... on the other hand he has a great record in a smaller team in Germany. 2 facts.Now tell us where is the big mistake we did?That's not a fact, that's your interpretation You fail to see anything in context, he was motm in his first game, got dropped for no reason, and only made some cameos off the bench after that if I'm not mistaken and maybe a start in the league cup.He's no robot, players need playtime. But whatever, I'm not gonna get through to you.He plays for a smaller team than Chelsea, true, that's a fact. Doesn't mean FUCK all though. =DHe's not playing in a potatoleague in a potatoclub. He's been voted the best attacking mid in Germany in front of Robben, Gotze, Muller, Reus. That's a fact too. Atholy, Stingray, zolayes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Exactly, for example this.And even more clear Callejon has great numbers in Napoli and he wouldn't have any chance in Madrid. The next great example will be Jese in Madrid that is a great player will score a ton of goals out of Madrid and play like a star but maybe for this Madrid he doesn't have the quality to play there (And I would buy Jese for Chelsea because maybe he will be really good).Alexis was 1 more player in Barcelona and is the star f this League or one of the 5 best players in the League.How many examples you want more?And many of them proved they are great palyers for great teams something that De Bruyne couldn't do here.The difference is that at Madrid and Barcelona the players replacing Callejon and Alexis were as good or better.At Chelsea this team appears seriously deficient at the 10 and with crosses long balls into the box and midfield scoring. De Bruyne provides Pirloesque long range passing with Lampard like midfield finishing. He's excellent on the counter attack. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 The difference is that at Madrid and Barcelona the players replacing Callejon and Alexis were as good or better.At Chelsea this team appears seriously deficient at the 10 and with crosses long balls into the box and midfield scoring.De Bruyne provides Pirloesque long range passing with Lampard like midfield finishing. He's excellent on the counter attack.Well from all the AM we played in the last 2 seasons De Bruyne and Salah were by far the worse ones. Schurrle was better and is also out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Well from all the AM we played in the last 2 seasons De Bruyne and Salah were by far the worse ones. Schurrle was better and is also out. Another mistake possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Well from all the AM we played in the last 2 seasons De Bruyne and Salah were by far the worse ones. Schurrle was better and is also out. More facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 we made from his sale what we spend on 2-3 youth players from Nordic countries every few seasons to never be heard of again. perspective. Pizy, johnnythefirst and zolayes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Another mistake possiblyYes... in your apinion we should have 20 AM players, 15 ST, and 10 CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yes... in your apinion we should have 20 AM players, 15 ST, and 10 CB.I n your opinion ( or Apinoin) I suppose we would have 45 Portuguese players .. Pity but the only decent one wouldnt come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I n your opinion ( or Apinoin) I suppose we would have 45 Portuguese players .. Pity but the only decent one wouldnt comeNo we wouldn't, the only one I would have here is Cristiano and obviously at his age he wouldn't be a good buy, and you can check that for example on Moutinho thread of William Carvalho.About all the the other things you say, it's all really sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I don't know why we were wrong. He is playing well in a worst team than us.. I'd like to see Chelsea play them tomorrow. I wouldn't put any money on the result actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'd like to see Chelsea play them tomorrow. I wouldn't put any money on the result actually. I would also. But anyway they are a worst team than us... we also lost agsint Bradford or Newcastle and we are a better team than them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I would also. But anyway they are a worst team than us... we also lost agsint Bradford or Newcastle and we are a better team than them.Yeayea.You want to be better? Don't lose to them. If you lose to a team, you're a worse team than that team until you beat them again.No excuses.Also, they're still in Europe, Chelsea is not. Have some self respect dude.Also, I'm slightly drunk \o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Yeayea.You want to be better? Don't lose to them. Wtf... Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Wtf...What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 we made from his sale what we spend on 2-3 youth players from Nordic countries every few seasons to never be heard of again. perspective.Okay, this is a hilarious post. Leif and johnnythefirst 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 To be fair AVB was just too inexperienced to be manager of Chelsea (or any other top 6 club). Hope he comes back to the EPL in like 5-10 years and proves that he's a good managerSo that makes Jose's treatment of players he doesn't rate ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted March 20, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted March 20, 2015 All the talk about us making a mistake in letting him go are completely irrelevant because we did not "let him go", he asked to leave, it was his decision.And I'm one of Kevin's biggest fan since his first spell in Germany and I was always the one to defend him when some of the same people wanting him back now were calling him shit last season. BUT it was clearly not working out for him here for various reasons, some of it because Jose, some because of Kevin himself, and some just down to bad luck. Maybe had he stayed after Mata left he would have been able to turn it around, but we can only speculate. But we always knew that he was a top talent and obviously so did Wolfsburg and that was reflected in the fee we received. I'm very happy to see him developing so well and proving himself more and more, but that does not in any way change the fact that the deal we got for him was very good.In a deal where literally ALL the opinions at the time fell between "excellent business" and "take it and run we've ripped Wolfsburg off", you cannot with any legitimacy criticize the club and manager now in retrospective unless your criticism is that the board should have used the time machine in Roman's secret lab to see how he develops at Wolfsburg before agreeing to the deal, and even then it remains a good deal considering the circumstances at the time. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, try to be more happy for Kevin and less bitter towards the club. A decision that was borne out of Jose ostracizing him like he does to every player he doesn't particularly rate or deem good enough to start regularly. He was forced to leave due to his place in the national team for the world cup was at jeopardy due to lack of game time. either way, Jose's stubbornness and reluctance to rotate his squad is toxic and should be rightly criticised . Cuadradro is already experiencing the same treatment. Leif, couris, Amblève. and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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