didierforever 7,349 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 LOL oh dear i think you need to do your research! Malouda left Chelsea in 2013, good try though. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23353568LOL, oh dear... http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2013/clubs/club=52914/squad/index.htmlhe was not in our europa league squad or CL squad or PL squad since JAN.so, jose now replaced a reserve player by a 18million schurrle? a player who played a grand total of (u guessed it right), 0 minutes for CFC in the 2012-13 season. and yet could not win the league an infact went trophyless. SHAME... jose transfers dealing since he came here compared to 2012/13 squad which was one of the worst chelsea squads in the roman era.moses -> willian (brilliant)marin -> KDB ->brown?-> kenedy (MASSIVE MISTAKE)piazon -> schurrle -> cuadrado -> traore (LOL, MASSIVE MISTAKE considering the money involved)mata -> salah -> pedro (jury is out on pedro but considering the loss of creativity in the squad, MASSIVE MISTAKE)lukaku -> etoo -> drogba -> falcao (another MASSIVE MISTAKE)luiz -> zouma (decent dealing)paulo ferreira -> x,y,z youth player (no output)bertrand -> luis -> baba (MASSIVE MISTAKE)lampard -> cesc (given the midfielders available, and the massive liability that cesc is, MASSIVE MISTAKE)romeu -> matic (the best dealing without a shred of doubt)ba -> remy (quite the same)torres -> costa (anyone would have been an upgrade. but one of his best dealings after willian and matic)so at max, 3 deals which can be termed as good and above, 3 changes which were average and 6 MASSIVE MISTAKES. not hard to see how poor his dealings have been DaddysHobby, zolayes and couris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 LOL, oh dear... http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2013/clubs/club=52914/squad/index.htmlhe was not in our europa league squad or CL squad or PL squad since JAN.so, jose now replaced a reserve player by a 18million schurrle? a player who played a grand total of (u guessed it right), 0 minutes for CFC in the 2012-13 season. and yet could not win the league an infact went trophyless. SHAME... Malouda left in 2013! accept the truth, you are wrong take it on the chin and stop embarrassing yourself by trying to wriggle out of it.and i stopped reading after that first paragraph i have no interest in you doing what you always do and twist the truth. :confused: BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Malouda didn't exist for a year , can't expect him to remember , or consider him a Chelsea player that year Reddish-Blue and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Malouda left in 2013! accept the truth, you are wrong take it on the chin and stop embarrassing yourself by trying to wriggle out of it.and i stopped reading after that first paragraph i have no interest in you doing what you always do and twist the truth. :confused:Malouda didn't exist for a year , can't expect him to remember , or consider him a Chelsea player that yearread the line written by lucio.and fine, i was "wrong". malouda went in 2013.now explain how schurrle replaced malouda. comeon, go ahead. i would love to hear how malouda, a reserve player for a year, got replaced by a 18mil pound schurrle.and how convenient not read thru the rest of my post.by the way, is KDB still shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 read the line written by lucio.and fine, i was "wrong". malouda went in 2013.now explain how schurrle replaced malouda. comeon, go ahead. i would love to hear how malouda, a reserve player for a year, got replaced by a 18mil pound schurrle.and how convenient not read thru the rest of my post.by the way, is KDB still shit? where did i say he replaced Malouda??? the list i made was not about direct replacements, i simply said who left and then put a player who was signed in he same window, next to it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 where did i say he replaced Malouda??? the list i made was not about direct replacements, i simply said who left and then put a player who was signed in he same window, next to it, who left and who was signed in the same window... and talk about twisting the truth.affane -> mvg, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixies 1 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 where did i say he replaced Malouda??? the list i made was not about direct replacements, i simply said who left and then put a player who was signed in he same window, next to it, Dear Pacquiao,I'm really curious what arguments you're coming up with to minimalise KDB's winning goal against strong opposition yesterday. it might even be possible that his goal later on will be decisive in reaching the knock out stage of the CL.I even read that KDB's stats (5 goals and 5 asssists) are the best of a new city player in history...But hey, I probably forgot a million other things that proove he's not that special! zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 who left and who was signed in the same window... and talk about twisting the truth.affane -> mvg, right? how is that twisting the truth??? LOLyou twisted what i wrote and acted like every player we signed was because we sold another, but that is not how we operate, not every signing we make is because we have sold someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 how is that twisting the truth??? LOLyou twisted what i wrote and acted like every player we signed was because we sold another, but that is not how we operate, not every signing we make is because we have sold someone elsewhat? not at all.if you go through my first post, i specifically, specified, that we "replaced" piazon, a player that we still have with a certain player.it is infact YOU, who has simply mapped all the outgoings with the incomings to somehow say that our transfers by jose have been good. if not, then why did you even include malouda, a player who did not play a single minute of football for us in 12-13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Dear Pacquiao,I'm really curious what arguments you're coming up with to minimalise KDB's winning goal against strong opposition yesterday. it might even be possible that his goal later on will be decisive in reaching the knock out stage of the CL.I even read that KDB's stats (5 goals and 5 asssists) are the best of a new city player in history...But hey, I probably forgot a million other things that proove he's not that special!LOOOL you do know i am a big De Bruyne fan, always have been, his goal also won me £240 yesterday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 what? not at all.if you go through my first post, i specifically, specified, that we "replaced" piazon, a player that we still have with a certain player.it is infact YOU, who has simply mapped all the outgoings with the incomings to somehow say that our transfers by jose have been good. if not, then why did you even include malouda, a player who did not play a single minute of football for us. i simply listed outgoings and incomings from 2013 to 2015, you over analysed it, as usual, fact is Mourinho has done an incredible job when you look at what he inherited and how he built a title winning team in one season, and i have no doubt he will build again next summer and we will win the PL or CL http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9837133/gary-neville-chelsea-are-a-shining-example-to-other-clubs stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 KDB is atleast a level above everyone else we have, we will never know what exactly happend between him and mou, but what i do know is that its a very bitter pill to swallow, the boy just always deliver something we need badly. zolayes and MCM4PR3Z 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 i simply listed outgoings and incomings from 2013 to 2015, you over analysed it, as usual, fact is Mourinho has done an incredible job when you look at what he inherited and how he built a title winning team in one season, and i have no doubt he will build again next summer and we will win the PL or CL http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9837133/gary-neville-chelsea-are-a-shining-example-to-other-clubsno u did not just list the outgoing and incomings. you intentionally, mapped an outgoing to an incoming for a similar position to show what kind of business jose has done.and kudos to neville, to toot our horn when we were winning. but as a fan, we all know what are problems are.6 defenders which include a 21 year old baba rahman who jose clearly does not trust.no decent replacement for maticour best B2B player is rambo who cant pass the ball to save his life.our best "creator" is cesc, whose last assist was god knows when.our best no.10 is oscar who has consistency issues as well as still a big question mark about his talent. and we kept him and sold mata and kdb instead. so fans are always going to question that judgment.we have 4 AMs. our 5th and 6th AM are kenedy and traore who are not going to start a PL/CL game despite 3 out of 4 of our AMs being poor.we dont have half a decent back up to costa.so IF, jose's transfer dealings were even "good" we would not find ourselves in such a situation. our squad is thin, overly reliant on the likes of hazard in attack and matic in defence/balance.so the answer is that jose's transfer dealings have been POOR. Mana, DaddysHobby, couris and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 no u did not just list the outgoing and incomings. you intentionally, mapped an outgoing to an incoming for a similar position to show what kind of business jose has done.and kudos to neville, to toot our horn when we were winning. but as a fan, we all know what are problems are.6 defenders which include a 21 year old baba rahman who jose clearly does not trust.no decent replacement for maticour best B2B player is rambo who cant pass the ball to save his life.our best "creator" is cesc, whose last assist was god knows when.our best no.10 is oscar who has consistency issues as well as still a big question mark about his talent. and we kept him and sold mata and kdb instead. so fans are always going to question that judgment.we have 4 AMs. our 5th and 6th AM are kenedy and traore who are not going to start a PL/CL game despite 3 out of 4 of our AMs being poor.we dont have half a decent back up to costa.so IF, jose's transfer dealings were even "good" we would not find ourselves in such a situation. our squad is thin, overly reliant on the likes of hazard in attack and matic in defence/balance.so the answer is that jose's transfer dealings have been POOR.dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours? Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?i did not start this. go to the page before and read it. also, if you dont want to take part in a discussion, there is always the option of ignoring it. and since there is no name calling, i dont get the point of people intruding who dont want to take part in the discussion.as for more better dealings than wrong onesjose transfers dealing since he came here compared to 2012/13 squad which was one of the worst chelsea squads in the roman era.moses -> willian (brilliant)marin -> KDB ->brown?-> kenedy (MASSIVE MISTAKE)piazon -> schurrle -> cuadrado -> traore (LOL, MASSIVE MISTAKE considering the money involved)mata -> salah -> pedro (jury is out on pedro but considering the loss of creativity in the squad, MASSIVE MISTAKE)lukaku -> etoo -> drogba -> falcao (another MASSIVE MISTAKE)luiz -> zouma (decent dealing)paulo ferreira -> x,y,z youth player (no output)bertrand -> luis -> baba (MASSIVE MISTAKE)lampard -> cesc (given the midfielders available, and the massive liability that cesc is, MASSIVE MISTAKE)romeu -> matic (the best dealing without a shred of doubt)ba -> remy (quite the same)torres -> costa (anyone would have been an upgrade. but one of his best dealings after willian and matic)so at max, 3 deals which can be termed as good and above, 3 changes which were average and 6 MASSIVE MISTAKES. not hard to see how poor his dealings have been Despiadado.Maleante, DaddysHobby and Shaan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 i did not start this. go to the page before and read it. also, if you dont want to take part in a discussion, there is always the option of ignoring it. and since there is no name calling, i dont get the point of people intruding who dont want to take part in the discussion.as for more better dealings than wrong onesjose transfers dealing since he came here compared to 2012/13 squad which was one of the worst chelsea squads in the roman era.moses -> willian (brilliant)marin -> KDB ->brown?-> kenedy (MASSIVE MISTAKE)piazon -> schurrle -> cuadrado -> traore (LOL, MASSIVE MISTAKE considering the money involved)mata -> salah -> pedro (jury is out on pedro but considering the loss of creativity in the squad, MASSIVE MISTAKE)lukaku -> etoo -> drogba -> falcao (another MASSIVE MISTAKE)luiz -> zouma (decent dealing)paulo ferreira -> x,y,z youth player (no output)bertrand -> luis -> baba (MASSIVE MISTAKE)lampard -> cesc (given the midfielders available, and the massive liability that cesc is, MASSIVE MISTAKE)romeu -> matic (the best dealing without a shred of doubt)ba -> remy (quite the same)torres -> costa (anyone would have been an upgrade. but one of his best dealings after willian and matic)so at max, 3 deals which can be termed as good and above, 3 changes which were average and 6 MASSIVE MISTAKES. not hard to see how poor his dealings have beenA discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours? Pacquiao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Azul 1,615 Posted October 22, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 22, 2015 What is there to discuss here? Mourinho made a massive mistake and De Bruyne is better than every midfielder we have except for Hazard. It's as simple as that. Anybody who disagrees is unbelievably deluded. The Mak, couris, Shaan and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 A discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?talk about going around in circles. and since you have nothing new to come up with, just like in the mourinho thread on RLC, well, all i can say is, for a discusiion to be respectful, there have to be 2 people to make it disrespectful. some guy telling zolayes to "think before you talk" or something around that lines, is disrespectful. or even when i pointed out about malouda, saying "i think u need to do your research" is as disrespectful. and its no surprise that its the same guy.and like i have already pointed it out to you before, u like to make statements, instead of actually trying to prove them. tell me how my list is twisted? Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 A discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?To be fair though nobody should look at the list Didierforever posted and find it pleasant to read. It is a depressing look at the truth in some poor dealings.I probably harp on this a lot, but there is NO reason why a player like Bertrand should even be in the market for being sold. A homegrown player who knew the league and was premier league quality. What more can our youth system do? Then we bring in no marks like Djilobodji and Baba...that is depressing.Also I don't need the jury to be out on Pedro. He is an serviceable youth player coming from Barcelona, and if his name was Peters and he was coming through our youth system he wouldnt be entertained in this squad at all. It is depressing. Stats, didierforever and zolayes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 A discussion to be respectful and pleasant to read, has to have way more than just no name calling.....none of your "debates" are pleasant to read or respectful.....Also, i do think that your list as well is twisted just to prove your points.....but again...dude, why you always go in circles, these thing have been discussed at the end of our disastrous summer, do you think that we have no new players right now solely because of José? You're clutching at straws now, NO manager has 100% perfect dealings, thing is José has more successful ones than bad ones.Now, do you intend to keep this up for 6 hours?To be fair though nobody should look at the list Didierforever posted and find it pleasant to read. It is a depressing look at the truth in some poor dealings.I probably harp on this a lot, but there is NO reason why a player like Bertrand should even be in the market for being sold. A homegrown player who knew the league and was premier league quality. What more can our youth system do? Then we bring in no marks like Djilobodji and Baba...that is depressing.Also I don't need the jury to be out on Pedro. He is an serviceable youth player coming from Barcelona, and if his name was Peters and he was coming through our youth system he wouldnt be entertained in this squad at all. It is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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