manpe 10,861 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I'm just so sad over what's happening. Not even angry, but sad. Sad to read that this obvious farce has turned some of our fans against him, sad that this minor slip-up may cost him his captaincy, sad to see his reputation being finally destroyed.I became a Chelsea fan when I watched a random football game on TV, it was a long time ago and Chelsea were playing... I switched to that channel the moment Terry leaped over a big bloke and won the header and then clapped and shouted at other players for motivation. It was HIS passion that got me interested in this sport and in Chelsea. I just can't believe it all comes down to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Told myself I wouldn't judge him til it was proven, but some of our fans' blind faith in him is crazy. Like I said, he isn't a racist. But that doesn't mean it's ok to say what he's allegedly said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I'm just so sad over what's happening. Not even angry, but sad. Sad to read that this obvious farce has turned some of our fans against him, sad that this minor slip-up may cost him his captaincy, sad to see his reputation being finally destroyed.I became a Chelsea fan when I watched a random football game on TV, it was a long time ago and Chelsea were playing... I switched to that channel the moment Terry leaped over a big bloke and won the header and then clapped and shouted at other players for motivation. It was HIS passion that got me interested in this sport and in Chelsea. I just can't believe it all comes down to this.His footballing ability has nothing to do with this even though he is slowing down but you cant fault him for commitment. He just keeps fucking up and putting pressure on our club for no reason other then he is a prick who does not think before he opens his mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Told myself I wouldn't judge him til it was proven, but some of our fans' blind faith in him is crazy. Like I said, he isn't a racist. But that doesn't mean it's ok to say what he's allegedly saidIf you're hinting with "blind faith" at me apart from others, then I'm obviously disappointed in him in hindsight... He made a kinda wrong statement after that incident and you shouldn't use those words with cameras at every corner. He made a human mistake like we all do, with the exception of not having cameras and a million eyes watching. But the way it has turned out to be, this makes me sad... and all in all I don't believe that he's racist (I've already explained what racism means to me, and it's much more serious than calling someone black in the heat of a moment), instead I remember the times when he stood in our goal when Cudi and Cech got injured, when he got kicked in the face by Diaby, the countless goal-line clearances, his self-sacrificing challenges. Amidst the shit I am keen to remember him for the good, not for some truly unique and isolated situations blown up by media.@Ultra Blue: Yeah, he can be too rash. Not many people are good at containing their emotions... Terry is one of them. Lampard for example is the opposite. I still love JT though... disappointed, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 His footballing ability has nothing to do with this even though he is slowing down but you cant fault him for commitment. He just keeps fucking up and putting pressure on our club for no reason other then he is a prick who does not think before he opens his mouth.Why are you talking as if he has been proved guilty? Police have charged him like they charge any suspect. His fate will be decided in the court. I dont know if the court is going to get some lip reading expert. Usually if there is even a slightest of doubt the Court doest not hold the suspect guilty.It is a shame that Chelsea fans are falling for this Anti-JT media frenzy. Back him till he is proven guilty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 If you're hinting with "blind faith" at me apart from others, then I'm obviously disappointed in him in hindsight... He made a kinda wrong statement after that incident and you shouldn't use those words with cameras at every corner. He made a human mistake like we all do, with the exception of not having cameras and a million eyes watching. But the way it has turned out to be, this makes me sad... and all in all I don't believe that he's racist (I've already explained what racism means to me, and it's much more serious than calling someone black in the heat of a moment), instead I remember the times when he stood in our goal when Cudi and Cech got injured, when he got kicked in the face by Diaby, the countless goal-line clearances, his self-sacrificing challenges. Amidst the shit I am keen to remember him for the good, not for some truly unique and isolated situations blown up by media.Was just making a general comment, not just at you. And like I said, I too don't believe he's a racist. He's just a really really dumb person. He should know that being captain of his club and country, being a "role model", he needs to keep his emotions in check. Yes I know his emotion makes him the player that he is, but if he really did use the word "black" then it's really really stupid of him to do so and there is no excuse. Use the word cunt or wanker or whatever but when you bring in a person's race or sexuality or whatever of that nature, it's crossing the line. Even if it's just said without actually meaning it, it's still wrong and should be stamped outStill support him until there's been a decision made either way. and he will still be a legend in my eyes for what he's done on the pitch, which you've already describedDo think BB has taken it a bit too far with the JT abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Why are you talking as if he has been proved guilty? Police have charged him like they charge any suspect. His fate will be decided in the court. I dont know if the court is going to get some lip reading expert. Usually if there is even a slightest of doubt the Court doest not hold the suspect guilty.It is a shame that Chelsea fans are falling for this Anti-JT media frenzy. Back him till he is proven guilty...I'm talking about his past record Warnie, he keeps putting us in funny situations with his actions. He is doing this every season now and its just tiring. You have to admit that this has a negative impact on the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I really thought that it was just a media witch hunt, which is still is, but with this latest rumour that he's going to get charged by the police... it's disappointing. He's let the club down again if trueWe know that JT isn't a racist, but he should not be saying this shit at all, let alone in a football match watched by millions.I really thought that it was just a media witch hunt, which is still is, but with this latest rumour that he's going to get charged by the police... it's disappointing. He's let the club down again if trueWe know that JT isn't a racist, but he should not be saying this shit at all, let alone in a football match watched by millions.again another rumour that he is to be charged ,,,Ive not heard that anywhere apart from that Mirror front page ,,,which said "They believed the Policewere going to charge him" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Is it true, that a year (or so) ago, a player commited suicide because his wife had cheated on him with JT's brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Is it true, that a year (or so) ago, a player commited suicide because he heard rumours about his wife cheating on him with JT's brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I heard a rumour JT was responsible for the collapse of the Euro banking system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Edit: yeah I remember reading about the suicide thing re: his brotherScrewed up family lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 That suicide thing is about JT's brother, Paul, I believe.So it is true? I didn't even know it till somebody told me now... broken family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 So it is true? I didn't even know it till somebody told me now... broken familySorry, I edited my post. Didn't read yours properly before replyingNot sure if it's true but it's on Paul Terry's wikipedia page (not the most reliable source, I know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Sorry, I edited my post. Didn't read yours properly before replyingNot sure if it's true but it's on Paul Terry's wikipedia page (not the most reliable source, I know)Yeah I just saw an article about it... sorry for going OT, but I just wanted confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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