Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 From what I see he's got better performances than most players in our team... he literally does everything but score - so when his goals arrives he will be the complete player.Hardly. Even when he's one of our better players, he's nothing more than decent. The only thing he's been doing well is working hard (probably out of desperation more than anything else). Other than that, he hasn't done much right. He can't dribble past one defender, he can't hold the ball up like Drogba and he's pretty static for the most part. If he was close to completion and only lacked finish, he would be way more prolific than he is now, as he would be able to create more chances for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 All things aside, it's been a terrible year for him. It could've went a much better way like SwedishHouseMafia said but it didn't. I will wait for 2 more games and see what can El Nino do. QPR and Swansea. If he fails to impress then there is really not much to say...Hardly. Even when he's one of our better players, he's nothing more than decent. The only thing he's been doing well is working hard (probably out of desperation more than anything else). Other than that, he hasn't done much right. He can't dribble past one defender, he can't hold the ball up like Drogba and he's pretty static for the most part. If he was close to completion and only lacked finish, he would be way more prolific than he is now, as he would be able to create more chances for himself.You are not telling the truth here. Besides Mata and Sturridge, Torres is the player who has dribbled the most players. He is not a player who is supposed to hold the ball like Drogba but even his linkup play has improved comparing it to the last season and he is making runs like crazy, it's just that only Mata has enough vision to spot them and since teams chase and mark Mata like crazy it is more difficult to send that great pass. Next time, watch Torres very very carefully when he plays next time. You'll see him receiving the ball, passing it to someone and then making a fast run forward while that player sends a low risk pass sideways or backwards...But, it is like you being a policeman with great history, amazing kunf fu, deadeye accuracy but failing to arrest anyone. The only way to escape this crazy situation is by doing 3 things:ScoringScoringScoringAnd please, continue disscusion about Torres here and use this thread to respond to SeB's article.It's a shame though it's on French, it looks really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Not the best year. some of his performances show he has still got it then the next week he looks useless, the man has no confidence at all.what is interesting is would we still be giving another striker so many chances to improve if it wasnt for his reputation i feel we would have shipped him out this jan. i really hope he gets his act together espeically with Drogs most likely leaving at the end of the season (not to mention his age). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 All things aside, it's been a terrible year for him. It could've went a much better way like SwedishHouseMafia said but it didn't. I will wait for 2 more games and see what can El Nino do. QPR and Swansea. If he fails to impress then there is really not much to say...You are not telling the truth here. Besides Mata and Sturridge, Torres is the player who has dribbled the most players. He is not a player who is supposed to hold the ball like Drogba but even his linkup play has improved comparing it to the last season and he is making runs like crazy, it's just that only Mata has enough vision to spot them and since teams chase and mark Mata like crazy it is more difficult to send that great pass. Next time, watch Torres very very carefully when he plays next time. You'll see him receiving the ball, passing it to someone and then making a fast run forward while that player sends a low risk pass sideways or backwards...And please, continue disscusion about Torres here and use this thread to respond to SeB's article.It's a shame though it's on French, it looks really good.Okay, I'll pay close attention to him next couple games. Hopefully you're right although as of now I don't agree with you at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Dreadful Year, Dreadful Player. We have dropped so many points this year from our main strikers not scoring. We didn't buy Torres to miss sitters and only get plaudits when he sets up the odd goal...He has to score, thats a strikers job. Esp when playing with one up top. Until he either cleans his act up, starts hitting the net, he either needs to be sold or replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death B4 Dishonour 32 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I am be wrong on this but he has performed better than Drogba so far this season, as well as looking a lot more motivated and committedTorres has 4 goals and 7 assists in all competitionsDrogba has 6 goals and 2 assists in all competitions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 You are not telling the truth here. Besides Mata and Sturridge, Torres is the player who has dribbled the most players. He is not a player who is supposed to hold the ball like Drogba but even his linkup play has improved comparing it to the last season and he is making runs like crazy, it's just that only Mata has enough vision to spot them and since teams chase and mark Mata like crazy it is more difficult to send that great pass. Next time, watch Torres very very carefully when he plays next time. You'll see him receiving the ball, passing it to someone and then making a fast run forward while that player sends a low risk pass sideways or backwards...And please, continue disscusion about Torres here and use this thread to respond to SeB's article.It's a shame though it's on French, it looks really good.Thanks god, I'm not the only one spotting that. It's like I say in my article, Torres was used to bve given the ball into space, even if we dont evoke the situation when the "support player" plays backwards, the amount of times when he starts a run behind defenders and he is given the ball behind him because the Chelsea players are used to put the ball ON DrogbaThe points in the first post are a translation of the main points of the article lolMessages on the topic are answers to the thread title, it wasn't what I expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The points in the first post are a translation of the main points of the article lolWhich is why I wanted to read the article. Looks really well and the points you chosed are spot on Feel free to write an article for TC anytime you want, you do it very well, unless of course you don't like doing it on English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Which is why I wanted to read the article. Looks really well and the points you chosed are spot on Feel free to write an article for TC anytime you want, you do it very well, unless of course you don't like doing it on English.I could, but I like to write long article (though I really have to synthetize lol) but my english style is not yet fluent, I don't want to inflict you 3.000 words in a 13 years old english student style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I could, but I like to write long article (though I really have to synthetize lol) but my english style is not yet fluent, I don't want to inflict you 3.000 words in a 13 years old english student style Fair enough, I thought that was the case. Oh well, at least I want you to know that your work is appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Everyone knows my opinions on him after the article I wrote - he isn't good enough and should be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Feel sorry for him and us. Gets enough flak from everyone outside the club so I'm not gonna get stuck into him here. Still back him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I am be wrong on this but he has performed better than Drogba so far this season, as well as looking a lot more motivated and committedTorres has 4 goals and 7 assists in all competitionsDrogba has 6 goals and 2 assists in all competitionsI am be wrong on this but he has performed better than Drogba so far this season, as well as looking a lot more motivated and committedTorres has 4 goals and 7 assists in all competitionsDrogba has 6 goals and 2 assists in all competitionsStats are great. When Tores produces the type of performances that Didier did against Valencia and Man City, maybe then he might earn the right to be called Didier's rightful replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,964 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The sad thing is we paid the sum of money for him because we had expected him to convert impossible chances into goals. Yet, he is not even capable of scoring fucking sitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,365 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Nice thread title. Its like one of those almost humorous books that comes out at Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The sad thing is we paid the sum of money for him because we had expected him to convert impossible chances into goals. Yet, he is not even capable of scoring fucking sitters.The only reason he has lasted this long is because of the money invested in him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm tired of Torres, tired of talking about Torres, tired of watching Torres - he is not good enough to be our main striker right now.I'd actually make a parallel with Anelka who in his first half a season had 2 goals; continued to struggle under Scolari and finally found his scoring boots under Hiddink as a lone forward while Drogba was injured. But still during this time Anelka managed to integrate himself with the squad, I don't think he ever really was key to us with the exception of one season. But turned out a good temorary messure. Difference was we had a much stronger and fitter Drogba back than, right now our managers Carlo and AVB seem to just trust two players to lead the line and both have been awful in the last 12 months.This period is Torres's last chance if he is unable to start scoring regulary than surelly there won't be any more excuses, I don't think we should try to build a squad around a guy like Torres and feel that we need a right winger so we have the option of playing Sturridge up top or give Lukaku a run in the team.If 50 million wasn't paid for Torres and we had better options or our managers had more balls, he wouldn't get into the squad right now. To me at least it's unrealistic to expect Torres to reclaim his 2008 form, there are far too many ellements missing from his game - he would be a good striker with a team that can be build around him; but at Chelsea that would be an awful option, because of his injury record and the fact that a bit of speed is gone and he lacks that killer instinct.If he doesn't turn things around in our upcoming games - he should be sold off in the summer while he still holds some value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Personally, I don't know how anybody, be it fan or opposition, can look at our team as a whole and somehow conclude that Torres is our biggest problem. Virtually the whole squad is sucking the big one right now (by the standard that is expected by most).Fine, he's not scoring. That is regrettable seeing as scoring is his main objective. But you can't ignore the team play he puts in.I've seen people on this forum compare Torres number of goals to various other players. Then when his team contribution argument is bust out, the same people have said to ignore these points as he's and out and out striker and so it's the goals that matter. You cant exactly ignore his team play and assists but then not discount the goals he assisted, if that's the argument to be used against him.I don't defend him because I really love him or anything, I do so because it wouldn't matter who we had in his position right now, none of them would be doing much better. As it goes, he is putting in good team performances, and it's the results of the team that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmessy 139 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2092924/Chelsea-striker-Fernando-Torres-looking-50m-last.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I won't defend him anymore, it's so depressing watching him every time he has the ball on his feet. So far he has been one of the worst transfers in the history of the sport and he will never be able to overturn this major disappointment that he has caused to millions of fans around the world. Not this season anyway, and in all likelihood it will be his last in the Chelsea shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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