Tomo 21,751 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Have still got us 4th in the best league in world.Have got us to the last 16 in the biggest club competition in Europe if not the world.Have got us in the last 32 of the FA Cup with a decent draw.Have got us the best young (under 40) manager in the world who will only get better.Have a owner who loves the club and prepared to offer financial backing to the side in the future.Reckon Darlington fans will accept our problems if offered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's called lowering expectations. Big teams are never satisfied with anything less than being the best. Hopefully we can grow even more and win trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 what's exactly the point of this topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 what's exactly the point of this topic?I'm guessing Tomo is trying to point out that we aren't in the crisis so many people think we are. He might even be subtly acknowledging the ridiculous sense of entitlement that so many of our fans have too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I'm guessing Tomo is trying to point out that we aren't in the crisis so many people think we are. He might even be subtly acknowledging the ridiculous sense of entitlement that so many of our fans have too. your second sentence expresses the feeling I often have. A diet of too much rich food has produced an army of gluttons, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 22 games in and AVB's Chelsea are on 41 pts (W12, D5, L5). Same games played last season, Carlo's Chelsea were on 38 points (W11, D5, L6)If we hit a good run of form there is no saying we cannot get back up to second or third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 It's not a crisis...yet but if we drop out of the top 4 and don't win the FA cup than it's a crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 The point i was trying to make amoungst it all is ....We are worrying about whether we are going to beat Napoli next month.Portsmouth and Darlington fans are worrying whether they will still have a club to support next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Well as long as we're moving in the right direction then we've nothing to worry about. And last I saw was us closing in on 3rd place by 1 point, and widening the gap from 4th place by a point.We have a good chance of advancing to the quarter finals of the CL... We can sit back and worry and bite our nails, or we can believe that we're gona be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 The point i was trying to make amoungst it all is ....We are worrying about whether we are going to beat Napoli next month.Portsmouth and Darlington fans are worrying whether they will still have a club to support next month.well yeah, we have all the nice worries... no real ugly worries yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 His long-term aims are evident. That's all I'm impressed about atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 His long-term aims are evident. That's all I'm impressed about atm.Have you heard the saying "To move a mountain, you must first start byMoving a rock". I think this Applies here, it's all good and well that AVB has long term plans but if he doesn't complete the short term goals and make sure everything is fine in the present than he is doomed in his attempt to 'move the mountain' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujo101 75 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Football on a Thursday night......I don't even want to consider such an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 22 games in and AVB's Chelsea are on 41 pts (W12, D5, L5). Same games played last season, Carlo's Chelsea were on 38 points (W11, D5, L6)As far as I'm concerned that's frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The point i was trying to make amoungst it all is ....We are worrying about whether we are going to beat Napoli next month.Portsmouth and Darlington fans are worrying whether they will still have a club to support next month.Exactly things could be worse! We're not fighting reglagation or anything like that..our postion isnt great but hey years back this be seen as a bloody good postion.Yeah times changes things and we've got used to being a big top 3/4 club but sometimes doesnt happen and if we come back storming next season and right up there with the likes of City and Utd this season be forgotten aboutAnd if we end up on Thurs night...the likes of City and Man U have suddenly made the Europa league seem better then it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 remember how we hated Leeds ,,,such a threat,,, look at them now .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 We dont have any problems!!Our gameplay is improving tremendously and we are really transitioning well!Its like an Apple executive seeing profits drop but saying/doing nothing because 'once upon a time" apple's market share was close to nothing and apple had previously struggled. It is a wrong analogy to say that the Apple executive has a false sense of entitlement, or that he expects too much. Chelsea's story is much like Apple, Its steve jobs is our Roman Abramovic. I expect quality products from apple, and if they serve up some shit product, i will have negative opinions because such a failure is not acceptable from Apple.A Perfectly functional apple can be a rotten apple tomorrow. A couple of months ago we were in the premiership race, 2 months ago we were in the Carling cup. Then we got out of the title race, Carling cup and are losing/drawing games left right and center.Things change with time. The fact that we are in the FA cup and CL mean nothing if we play like this. We will get knocked out sooner rather than later.The writing will then be on the wall.If we do win the CL or FA cup, well we simply cant playing like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 We dont have any problems!!Our gameplay is improving tremendously and we are really transitioning well!Its like an Apple executive seeing profits drop but saying/doing nothing because 'once upon a time" apple's market share was close to nothing and apple had previously struggled. It is a wrong analogy to say that the Apple executive has a false sense of entitlement, or that he expects too much. Chelsea's story is much like Apple, Its steve jobs is our Roman Abramovic. I expect quality products from apple, and if they serve up some shit product, i will have negative opinions because such a failure is not acceptable from Apple.A Perfectly functional apple can be a rotten apple tomorrow. A couple of months ago we were in the premiership race, 2 months ago we were in the Carling cup. Then we got out of the title race, Carling cup and are losing/drawing games left right and center.Things change with time. The fact that we are in the FA cup and CL mean nothing if we play like this. We will get knocked out sooner rather than later.The writing will then be on the wall.If we do win the CL or FA cup, well we simply cant playing like this.why not just cry "WE ARE DOOMED" instead of all that pretentious crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 It's funny how after those displayes people only write about Torres. It's all his fault. Like he is the biggest problem. After sad news, it will stop for a while, but I will post my opinion anyway. Well, it seems I was watching different games. In last couple of games I saw :- 8 or 9 completely unmotivated and disinterested players per match ( bar Cech and Luiz) , no cohesion, no team play- players who ( bar Mata and Cech) are all in: he is past it; he is still learning it; he never had it; categories.- manager who insist on formation he does not have players for- players who work very little in attempt to create something together, they rather try by themselves and if it works it works. Of course if they are not in the position to shoot, they pass, but sideways or backwards to the closest teammate.- many attempts of crosses after which one thing is certain - possesion is lost.- arguable the worst midfield in the Premier League, maybe with exception of relegation candidates, with:Raul Meireles - was bench warmer in Liverpool, impact sub at bestLampard - has fantastic instict to shoot and best striker in this team, but when it comes to midfield his contribution is poorRamires - he can run, he can shoot, but can't pass or create in the boxRomeu - as much as we want to make new Makelele out of him, he is still kidMalouda - he can shoot the stands and lose possesion and does it very effectively. Can he pass or cross? No.- Not one single natural winger and famous 4 3 3 formationHow is all this Torres fault I don't know. Anyway,This club is opsesed with people who can shoot. We bought Torres, Lukaku, this new kid and I'm sure Kevin de Bruyne is here becouse he can shoot. OK he is a fantastic winger in making. Trouble is we ignored players who create ( bar Mata) and we didn't have any. That leaves us only with Mata who is already surprised by the weight of expectancy on his shoulders.We spent 100 mil on people who can shoot and new manager, and only 25 mil on creators of this game. It should have been reversed. Did I mention that new manager is not by any means better than previous one ( he just didn't have misfortune of having all the most important players, pitch leaders , Lampard, Terry and Drogba, injured at the same time for a while ) like Carlo did.But we can simply ignore this things and look forward to the day when Drogba, Sturridge or Lukaku start leading our attacking line. I personally can't wait .Torres will be benched soon enough. The trouble is, he won't take problems with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 why not just cry "WE ARE DOOMED" instead of all that pretentious crapBecause We are NOT doomed.Comparing Darlington and Chelsea. Listen to Yourself.Our problems have not Got us here and there as you have mentioned. A few good showings have got us into the CL. You conveniently forget the circumstances under which we qualified for the knockout stages. A Sturridge dive got us ahead in the FA cup. Not great football. Not those "problems". A Dive, and a do or die match. We are 4th by default, because Arsenal and Liverpool are as shit or worse than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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