Rumoured Paul Pogba

[The only place to be 11,313]

Well, Chelsea giving Nathanial a role with first team atm is about as likely as him making England's WC squad. And that has nothing to do with Pogba or any CM we sign in the next two transfer windows.

Exactly, and that's a problem that we probably need to remedy otherwise there's no point in having an academy beyond producing items for other clubs to buy like a Chinese sweatshop. That seems like a soulless way to develop youth though.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

I mean available players. Madrid suddenly love modric so he's not going anywhere soon. Montolivo is a no-no for me. He's over rated in my opinion.

Nobody of the class we need is available in my eyes. In fact any of Modric, Pogba, Alonso, Montolivo, De Rossi, Gundogan... whoever else you name will cost a shit load of money, their clubs want to keep them.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

The 2008-09 season where they won the treble Busquets (his first season in the senior team) and Toure started more or less the same amount of games, Toure played at CB in various games too due to Puyols dodgy fitness. Season 2009-10 where they won 6 trophies, Busquets made 51 appearances and Toure 36 appearances, then the season after he was sold. Watch how he plays for City and how Busquets plays for Barca, watch how disciplined and aware Busquets is, Toure is never like that. Toure is a box to box, Toure isn't a DM. Hence Mancini using Barry to cover for his tactical and awareness faults next to him.

Anyway to answer your question, Modric or Mateo Kovacic (has so much potential, can be a magnificent player).

I don't know how you got that stat that busquets played more than toure in guardiolas first season 2008-2009. But I think yaya played more and moved to center back against manutd in the final.

I like mobile and strong dm's that can pass like yaya and javi martinez. But you seem to like more static dms like busquets and maybe mikel, so I can see where our difference lies.

Modric won't be sold by madrid, he's ancellotis second name on the sheet after ronaldo.

Why I asked that question is because there are few better options for the pivot than pogba for us if dortmund don't sell gundogan.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

I don't know how you got that stat that busquets played more than toure in guardiolas first season 2008-2009. But I think yaya played more and moved to center back against manutd in the final.

I like mobile and strong dm's that can pass like yaya and javi martinez. But you seem to like more static dms like busquets and maybe mikel, so I can see where our difference lies.

Modric won't be sold by madrid, he's ancellotis second name on the sheet after ronaldo.

Why I asked that question is because there are few better options for the pivot than pogba for us if dortmund don't sell gundogan.

Well if you'd rather see one of Ramires or Pogba potentially used in the wrong role then maybe it would be a good deal but still...

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Nobody of the class we need is available in my eyes. In fact any of Modric, Pogba, Alonso, Montolivo, De Rossi, Gundogan... whoever else you name will cost a shit load of money, their clubs want to keep them.

Exactly. No one is available that will very well improve there. That's why I'll settle for pogba

[The Skipper 20,609]

Well if you'd rather see one of Ramires or Pogba potentially used in the wrong role then maybe it would be a good deal but still...

Personally I'd like to see a very dynamic pivot of both. Ramires - Pogba. Both covering each other, both physical. Pogba has a nice pass on him - Oscar can drop and link play up as he does for us atm.

I think a dynamic pivot is the way forward.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Personally I'd like to see a very dynamic pivot of both. Ramires - Pogba. Both covering each other, both physical. Pogba has a nice pass on him - Oscar can drop and link play up as he does for us atm.

I think a dynamic pivot is the way forward.

It would be difficult because it will be similar to when Lampard is steaming upfield because of his goal threat and then Ramires is left playing a role he isn't accustomed to. Sure Pogba is an upgrade on Lampard but I can't see it working imo.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

It would be difficult because it will be similar to when Lampard is steaming upfield because of his goal threat and then Ramires is left playing a role he isn't accustomed to. Sure Pogba is an upgrade on Lampard but I can't see it working imo.

Then why isn't the Mikel- Lamps pivot working Mikel being in his comfort zone when Lamps jets forward?....

i reckon Lamps- Rami pivot is miles better in terms of efficiency since they both compliment each other well and Lamps acts like the DLP spraying long balls up field. But Pogba can do a better job than Lamps right now and is a more dynamic force in the center. Also can do a decent job at defence when Rami gets forward with his runs.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Then why isn't the Mikel- Lamps pivot working Mikel being in his comfort zone when Lamps jets forward?....

i reckon Lamps- Rami pivot is miles better in terms of efficiency since they both compliment each other well and Lamps acts like the DLP spraying long balls up field. But Pogba can do a better job than Lamps right now and is a more dynamic force in the center. Also can do a decent job at defence when Rami gets forward with his runs.

Lampard is useless anywhere in the pivot, he doesn't tackle as we seen against Spurs several times, hes just glided past easily by more mobile players, his positional sense is also quite bad. When we are under pressure he is careless in possession, sloppy passes that lose the ball. He isn't a deep lying playmaker either... the sort of player we need to play next to Mikel/Rami/whoever has to be able to break play up as well, Lampard doesn't do a lot of that in my eyes. He claims he is trying to play a more disciplined midfield role but he is like Yaya Toure, he is closer to the opposition box than his own half the time.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Lampard is useless anywhere in the pivot, he doesn't tackle as we seen against Spurs several times, hes just glided past easily by more mobile players, his positional sense is also quite bad. When we are under pressure he is careless in possession, sloppy passes that lose the ball. He isn't a deep lying playmaker either... the sort of player we need to play next to Mikel/Rami/whoever has to be able to break play up as well, Lampard doesn't do a lot of that in my eyes. He claims he is trying to play a more disciplined midfield role but he is like Yaya Toure, he is closer to the opposition box than his own half the time.

I was not branding him as a DLP, just that he is the closest thing, we have got, to that role.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Personally I'd like to see a very dynamic pivot of both. Ramires - Pogba. Both covering each other, both physical. Pogba has a nice pass on him - Oscar can drop and link play up as he does for us atm.

I think a dynamic pivot is the way forward.

Ramires-Pogba would be extremely powerful but not very creative. We lack that player who can provide the transition and can play between the lines to break up defenses from midfield. That is neither Ramires's nor Pogba's style. Look at Schweinsteiger-Martinez or Alonso-Khedira. All four players are not exactly dynamic but still cover all the necessary attributes for a pivot

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

I was not branding him as a DLP, just that he is the closest thing, we have got, to that role.

Like Pogba hes an all round midfielder... who is better in the box to box role where he can be more effective for the team, getting into positions so he can arrive late in the box as he has done for the last 10 or 11 years at Chelsea. Hes not mobile enough to recover as quickly as Rami due to the fact he is 35, he leaves whoever his partner is exposed 9 times out of 10 when they switch roles and their is a turnover of possession...

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Sunday People are saying Mou wants to make a bid for him in January. And on Jackson Martinez.

[Waterfall 893]

He should be homegrown as well, shouldnt he?

He'd spent about 3 seasons at United

[kellzfresh 7,229]

He should be homegrown as well, shouldnt he?

He'd spent about 3 seasons at United

He should be homegrown, that will be nice.

If that source is true, (its wrong most of the time) then we'll fix our pivot for the 2nd half of the season for the crucial champs lge knockout stages

[lucio 5,418]

Sunday People are saying Mou wants to make a bid for him in January. And on Jackson Martinez.

wouldnt get much better than that

[bushman 2,043]

When Jose is in doubt about the team, he begs Roman for more money to buy players.

Sends out Lukaku on loan, but now he wants to buy Martinez ?

[Reddish-Blue 2,512]

When Jose is in doubt about the team, he begs Roman for more money to buy players.

Sends out Lukaku on loan, but now he wants to buy Martinez ?

Nothing wrong with buying Martinez. He's 27, about to hit his peak and he scores goals.

I'd be much more satisfied with Martinez as our #1 striker instead of past-it Torres, past-it Eto'o and an average Ba..

[bushman 2,043]

Nothing wrong with buying Martinez. He's 27, about to hit his peak and he scores goals.

I'd be much more satisfied with Martinez as our #1 striker instead of past-it Torres, past-it Eto'o and an average Ba..

I didn´t say there is anything wrong with Matrinez though.

I questioned Jose´s intention when he already had Lukaku to play.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Sunday People are saying Mou wants to make a bid for him in January. And on Jackson Martinez.

Italian and French media reporting the same thing.

Also Juventus seems to be interested in Kevin De Bruyne and some reports suggest he will be a priority for Juve in the next transfer window, alongside Sociedad's Griezmann.

Now, if you ask me, I'd be glad to offer De Bruyne and, let's say, another €20M for Pogba. Since Kevin is valued at about €15M, I think another €20M would be a fair amount and a good piece of business for Juventus since Pogba joined them for free.

I know De Bruyne is a talented lad with, probably, a great future ahead of him, but I just can't see him settle into this Chelsea team. The left wing is packed with Hazard and Schurrle, the playmaker's positions is Oscar's (and Mata's too) and Willian (and Mata/Oscar/Schurrle) will play on the right wing. I know De Bruyne can play in more than one positions, he can be the playmaker, he can also play on the right wing or as a pivot, but I feel he's like a fifth wheel right now...

De Bruyne plus money for Paul Pogba would be the right deal since we need the frenchman more than we need De Bruyne atm. Lampard won't be here forever and getting one of the greatest prospects in European football to play in the pivot alongside Rami would be a great piece of business.