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4 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

Matic would be a beast in a league that plays with less tempo.

But is Pogba really needed here? I'd argue that there is no reason to pay incredible amounts for Pogba when he isn't even the best midfielder in the Juventus team. We have Loftus-Cheek who is an academy graduate and resembles Pogba in quite a few ways. 

Instead, we should be considering players in the mold of Pjanic/Verratti/Gundogan. Then go for Nainggolan/Vidal and our midfield would be far more complete than with Pogba IMO.

 

Pjanic - Nainggolan - Loftus-Cheek all the way for me. Not sure where Cesc fits in that squad but I reckon that he won't be here for that long anyways. He'll be gone after next season if not during this summer.

Please enlighten us, who is the best midfielder at Juventus?

Resemblance and actuality are in stark contrast. RLC has great potential but he is MILES away from where Pogba is right now, MILES.... 

And if you ask me Pjanic, Nainggolan and Cheek is one underwhelming midfield. The very notion of going into a new season with 3 players with little to no experience with the pace and power of the Prem scares the shit out of me... Especially with a shortened preseason and a new manager. Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

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40 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

Pjanic is much better in defense than Fabregas but i agree Gundogan would be great.

hahahaha Pjanic has 8 yellow cards and only wins 1.4 tackles a game in the MUCH slower Serie A. I really wonder what game you guys are watching when you make outlandish statements like that. Cesc is by no means a defensive dynamo but I'd take him over Pjanic simply because he's not as foul prone as Pjanic.

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2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

In defensive sense, Pjanic isnt all that better than Cesc. We should target Gundogan if you want a balanced midfielder.

For balance i think Modric will be the best, in other options is Wilshere but he is just too injury prone. I think both of them are better players than Gundogan

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29 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

hahahaha Pjanic has 8 yellow cards and only wins 1.4 tackles a game in the MUCH slower Serie A. I really wonder what game you guys are watching when you make outlandish statements like that. Cesc is by no means a defensive dynamo but I'd take him over Pjanic simply because he's not as foul prone as Pjanic.

Ok he is not much better than Fabregas but WTF much slower Seri A and you're reason why you would take Fabregas over Pjanic is just stupid and there job is to assist score,and to create chances and Pjanic has 11 goals and 9 assist while Fabregas has 3 goals and 5 assists.

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2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

In defensive sense, Pjanic isnt all that better than Cesc. We should target Gundogan if you want a balanced midfielder.

That isn't what their game is about. Gundogan does nothing for me and don't think he would be a great addition. Pogba is the name on everyone's lips, but it's unlikely for multiple reasons. 

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Juventus star targeted for Conte’s Chelsea revolution

With the Italy coach all-but confirmed as the next Blues boss, his first task will be to snatch Paul Pogba from his former club to kick-off a raid on Serie A

 

http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/news/transfer-market/juventus-pogba-chelsea-conte/

 

 

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1 hour ago, Chelsea4 said:

Ok he is not much better than Fabregas but WTF much slower Seri A and you're reason why you would take Fabregas over Pjanic is just stupid and there job is to assist score,and to create chances and Pjanic has 11 goals and 9 assist while Fabregas has 3 goals and 5 assists.

And therein lies the problem. Football is played at both ends of the pitch my friend. In the midfield you need to be tactically aware and in the right positions to DEFEND then attack. Anyways if you think goals and assists are all that matter.... I don't have much more to say to you.

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39 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

And therein lies the problem. Football is played at both ends of the pitch my friend. In the midfield you need to be tactically aware and in the right positions to DEFEND then attack. Anyways if you think goals and assists are all that matter.... I don't have much more to say to you.

He is a cm just like Fabregas they are creating they are not to defend players like Nainggolan,Mikel and others there job is to defend there are some players who are good at both.

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1 minute ago, Chelsea4 said:

He is a attacking midlefielder just like Fabregas they are creating they are not to defend players like Nainggolan,Mikel and others there job is to defend and if you think Fabregas is good at defending then i don't have much more to say to you.

You're wrong... Where they are tactically deployed requires that they do need to defend on some level. Why do you think he has 8 yellow cards? does he have some sort of a bad temper? 

Nowhere have I said Cesc is a good defender, I simply said I would rather have him defending than a player who makes rash challenges and rarely wins tackles.

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25 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

You're wrong... Where they are tactically deployed requires that they do need to defend on some level. Why do you think he has 8 yellow cards? does he have some sort of a bad temper? 

Nowhere have I said Cesc is a good defender, I simply said I would rather have him defending than a player who makes rash challenges and rarely wins tackles.

Yes,they will try to defend but they are not really good at it and that's why you players like Mikel,Khedira,Nainggolan,Matuidi,Motta and other players there biggest job is to defend,to protect the defence.You can't have all you're players to be good at defending and attacking.

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1 minute ago, Chelsea4 said:

Yes,they will try to defend but they are not really good at it and that's why you players like Mikel,Khedira,Nainggolan,Gabi and other players there biggest job is to defend.

Whatever dude... Yes there are anchor type defenders that doesn't mean the other player in the holding position doesn't need to defend... the fact you called them attacking mids highlights how little you know about their tactical deployment.

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1 minute ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

Whatever dude... Yes there are anchor type defenders that doesn't mean the other player in the holding position doesn't need to defend... the fact you called them attacking mids highlights how little you know about their tactical deployment.

You still don't get it I DID NOT SAY THAT they don't need to defend i just said there not good at defending and that one Dm can do the job with a bit of help from the others and Pjanic is a cm.

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2 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

You still don't get it I DID NOT SAY THAT they don't need to defend i just said there not good at defending and that one Dm can do the job with a bit of help from the others and Pjanic is a cm.

No, no... Nice try... You changed what you originally wrote but since I quoted you already and it stays there. You called them attacking mids. And btw the way in no system is a CM not required to defend.

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2 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

No, no... Nice try... You changed what you originally wrote but since I quoted you already and it stays there. You called them attacking mids. And btw the way in no system is a CM not required to defend.

Made a mistake did not wanted to say that but i give up you just don't understand.

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16 hours ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

hahahaha Pjanic has 8 yellow cards and only wins 1.4 tackles a game in the MUCH slower Serie A. I really wonder what game you guys are watching when you make outlandish statements like that. Cesc is by no means a defensive dynamo but I'd take him over Pjanic simply because he's not as foul prone as Pjanic.

I don't know if you watch him play, I really hope you do, because making a comment of someone you don't watch would be something else.

Regarding yellow cards, there were other season besides this you know. Last season he had 10 yellow cards in 46 games which is reasonable for a central midfielder (Cesc had 13 in 47 games).

Pjanic is faster and more mobile and that is fundamental diffrence. I think he is better defender than Cesc. Fundamentally he is better at keeping the ball under pressure which is what all is about.

But the most improtant thing is that the whole rumour mill is build on that Conte wants Pjanic, so he knows what Pjanic is about.

 

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