The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Named in the England squad and a nailed-on starter. Congrats Gary and most importantly...don't get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Sigh, worry for Gary, seems a shadow of himself without Terry at the back with him, such a good partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I've said it before and I maintain that Cahill can be a serious liability on the ball when he tries to carry possession out of danger. He's forgiven for it most the time, and so goes unnoticed, because he's very good at covering the ground to make for it with his last-ditch tackles. I mean some saw his tackle on Snodgrass as world class defending but I saw it as a perfectly normal trait you're expecting from your central defenders.Wasn't that the running joke last season? Cahill is world class at putting out fires he himself starts. Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Wasn't that the running joke last season? Cahill is world class at putting out fires he himself starts.Haha never heard that one, but it certainly true for this season too. Though less so in his defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Am i the only one who doesn't think he's captain material? The Skipper, Sidzeret, Kieran. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Am i the only one who doesn't think he's captain material?+1I have a feeling next season's CB pairing will be Cahill - Ivanovic, with Branislav captaining the team. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 +1I have a feeling next season's CB pairing will be Cahill - Ivanovic, with Branislav captaining the team.What, and JT is leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Named in the England squad and a nailed-on starter. Congrats Gary and most importantly...don't get injured.Thankfully, if stays injury free, we know he'll get a good rest. England won't progress beyond the group stages.. Works for us. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 When was the last time he backed off from an advancing forward? Remember everyone making a huge fuss about that particular aspect of his game. Glad he improved on that bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Golaso for England. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Prank on Joe Hart. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 wow... suprised this thread is so quite after last night. i thought he was absolutely IMMENSE. its high time when he starts being regarded as world class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 wow... suprised this thread is so quite after last night. i thought he was absolutely IMMENSE. its high time when he starts being regarded as world class. Very good game from a good defender. Hardly world class, though. Mufassir08, Henrique, Peace. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Very good game from a good defender. Hardly world class, though.he has a "very good game" about 85% of the games he plays in. that consistency coupled with how solid he is itself should edge him towards world class rather than a "good defender". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Madmax 9,219 Posted June 20, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 20, 2014 he has a "very good game" about 85% of the games he plays in.... in an ultra defensive system where he is afforded more protection than in nearly every other top team. The right time to judge whether he is world class or not would be this season where Mourinho has promised a more forward thinking style. For now (imo) he is a defender who has enjoyed a great season because the team is set up in a way that maximizes his limited set of skills.When I hear the term 'world class', to me it means a handful of players that would slot in and perform in every and all conditions - irrespective of teammates, playing styles, philosophies. Ricardo Carvalho in his prime was world class. Thiago Silva today is world class. Gary Cahill is a very good player for a certain style of play, a 'systems defender', if you will. I'm not knocking the guy, he's clearly England's best in his position now that there's no JT. CHOULO19, robsblubot, Styles and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 If he had a more exotic name and played for another club he would get more acclaim.Alot of people claimed he wasn't good enough for Chelsea when we signed him..not many people will admit when they are wrong.I do agree with Madmax tho...he's not really world class. The only place to be and Posh Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 ... in an ultra defensive system where he is afforded more protection than in nearly every other top team. The right time to judge whether he is world class or not would be this season where Mourinho has promised a more forward thinking style. For now (imo) he is a defender who has enjoyed a great season because the team is set up in a way that maximizes his limited set of skills.When I hear the term 'world class', to me it means a handful of players that would slot in and perform in every and all conditions - irrespective of teammates, playing styles, philosophies. Ricardo Carvalho in his prime was world class. Thiago Silva today is world class. Gary Cahill is a very good player for a certain style of play. I'm not knocking the guy, he's clearly England's best in his position now that there's no JT. Perfect post.England played an attacking football in this world cup. The game against Italy was really tight, then the way he lost Balotelii was really silly. Ball marking there. Suddenly 2-1 for Italy. Imo that mistake was even worst that Jagielka vs Suarez, because that wasn't even a counter attack. Also in the Uruguay winner he was the one marking Suarez, who was free to score. Someone will point that it was Gerrard fault, but the space Suarez had was unbelievable. Only a very biased Chelsea fan would describe Cahill performance in this WC as world class. Defense was the England weak point, and no, thats not because Baines, Glen and Jagielka are bad, its because the 4 english starting defenders are okay defenders. They are good, but not good enough to play at the highest level, like in ultra-competitive World Cup games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 ... in an ultra defensive system where he is afforded more protection than in nearly every other top team. The right time to judge whether he is world class or not would be this season where Mourinho has promised a more forward thinking style. For now (imo) he is a defender who has enjoyed a great season because the team is set up in a way that maximizes his limited set of skills.When I hear the term 'world class', to me it means a handful of players that would slot in and perform in every and all conditions - irrespective of teammates, playing styles, philosophies. Ricardo Carvalho in his prime was world class. Thiago Silva today is world class. Gary Cahill is a very good player for a certain style of play, a 'systems defender', if you will. I'm not knocking the guy, he's clearly England's best in his position now that there's no JT. "ultra" defensive system??!!! so we "park the bus" against norwich and wba and cardiffs of the PL? this is going beyong ridiculous. just cos we played that way in 2 (just 2) matches against pool (away) and ATM (away), that means we have played that way all season long. we had a SOLID and compact system (if that is what u meant be ultra-defensive). i am sorry that chelsea conceded the least amount of goals in PL and were the best defensive unit as a team which has led some obnoxious views about us. but the truth is that sytem had its base in a GC-JT partnership. and GC was immense in that. england are barely playing in an "ultra-defensive" system and yet he would have been their 2nd best player on the pitch behind sturridge last night. that itself tells me that he is more than apt to adapt to different types of systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I think this World Cup has shown something i have said for a long time, that Cahill simply isn't a leader. I am very very sure he will never be a future Chelsea Captain, Quality defender but just isn't captain material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Perfect post.England played an attacking football in this world cup. The game against Italy was really tight, then the way he lost Balotelii was really silly. Ball marking there. Suddenly 2-1 for Italy. Imo that mistake was even worst that Jagielka vs Suarez, because that wasn't even a counter attack. Also in the Uruguay winner he was the one marking Suarez, who was free to score. Someone will point that it was Gerrard fault, but the space Suarez had was unbelievable. Only a very biased Chelsea fan would describe Cahill performance in this WC as world class. Defense was the England weak point, and no, thats not because Baines, Glen and Jagielka are bad, its because the 4 english starting defenders are okay defenders. They are good, but not good enough to play at the highest level, like in ultra-competitive World Cup games.second goal is no way his fault ......it was a lucky goal for uruguay which was gifted by gerrard....if gerrard does not touch the ball it would have been offside...No one can question his performance yesterday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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