Henrique 9,133 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Say what you want geezersGive it some time and Kojo will do the business again, everyone will be slating fuck out of Cahill for any minor tactical mistake he makes. Mistakes that don't even led to conceding, I can just already tell. This forum has to rely on slating some players, so I know what they've chosen.LOLYou are hilarious as usual, geezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Cahill is the new scapegoat then.No, its unfair to make Cahill the scapegoat, he us just an avarage defender. Plus, he will barely play as a starting XI this season, no reason to make him scapegoat. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,145 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 No, its unfair to make Cahill the scapegoat, he us just an avarage defender. Plus, he will barely play as a starting XI this season, no reason to make him scapegoat.He will start a lot of games actually. Not every game but used as rotation for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 No, its unfair to make Cahill the scapegoat, he us just an avarage defender. Plus, he will barely play as a starting XI this season, no reason to make him scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mceachran 109 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I posted previously about the 3-4 in season goals we could look at. Someone conveniently even provided footage. Then there was Marcelo. Then the Scotland goal. This is a problem for him. I think what we really should look at is whether or not Mourinho can fix it. I will keep my eyes peeled and be the first to praise his new defending. If Luiz can change, anyone can. Except... Maybe not Suarez. He's just an awful human being. On the outside. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Say what you want geezersGive it some time and Kojo will do the business again, everyone will be slating fuck out of Cahill for any minor tactical mistake he makes. Mistakes that don't even led to conceding, I can just already tell. This forum has to rely on slating some players, so I know what they've chosen.kalou then sturridge then moses and now cahill. if none of the normal ones are available, we have our ever-green debatable player in mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Some people dont undertand that you cant have 23 world class players in one team. And when Cahill, Mikel, Essien,...dont play ala Messi, those people go nuts. You guys expected that Cahill is next Terry, Mikel is next Makelele etc. Sorry, but as soon these people only play decent, they dissapoint you and you stress anger in this way by slating them. I fear Lukaku will be the same case for sometime before (if) he becomes top player. Despiadado.Maleante and Kojo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleed_blue 136 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 kalou then sturridge then moses and now cahill. if none of the normal ones are available, we have our ever-green debatable player in mikel. Are you saying that the players you have listed ALWAYS perform at such a high level that they should be immune from criticism or their mistakes should not be pointed out?Or because since they are just squad players, we should turn a blind eye to their mistakes. A mistake committed on the field, a lack of application shown by a player will be pointed out, irrespective of whether the player in question is a world class player or just an average squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Are you saying that the players you have listed ALWAYS perform at such a high level that they should be immune from criticism or their mistakes should not be pointed out?Or because since they are just squad players, we should turn a blind eye to their mistakes. A mistake committed on the field, a lack of application shown by a player will be pointed out, irrespective of whether the player in question is a world class player or just an average squad player. not at all but i would like the criticism to be well-distributed and most importanty it should be just.do u mean to say there is absolutely no favouritism and scape-goating on here.for eg- if moses had had a pre-season like the one schurlle has had, i can bet everything i have got that 90% of the forum would have said - SELL HIM or NOT CHELSEA MATERIAL.kalas makes tons of mistakes but "he still has had a decent pre-season" or "look at him athletism, he is our most athletic defender", cahill makes one and that too against scotland, every1 loses their mind.and lets not get into the amount of BS and unjust criticism that players like kalou and mikel have got over the years. every defeat/ lost point would have people ripping into them for no reason whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 not at all but i would like the criticism to be well-distributed and most importanty it should be just.do u mean to say there is absolutely no favouritism and scape-goating on here.for eg- if moses had had a pre-season like the one schurlle has had, i can bet everything i have got that 90% of the forum would have said - SELL HIM or NOT CHELSEA MATERIAL.kalas makes tons of mistakes but "he still has had a decent pre-season" or "look at him athletism, he is our most athletic defender", cahill makes one and that too against scotland, every1 loses their mind.and lets not get into the amount of BS and unjust criticism that players like kalou and mikel have got over the years. every defeat/ lost point would have people ripping into them for no reason whatsoever.I don't think anyone has issues with Cahill being in the squad..Its just that with Terry being at his age, Ivanovic almost guaranteed to start at RB, Cahill will be starting a lot of matches for us in the coming weeks... Cahill is a good covering defender, but he has been exposed on 1-v-1's before, and similar mistakes in the recent matches, against Madrid and Scotland, have done little to provide any sort of assurance in him.Now I hope this doesn't turn into another Mikel debate, but Obi's case is different, or rather more advanced. Mikel is already (or at least was) a guaranteed starter. Its pretty simple, when players like Mikel/Cahill start more matches, their flaws (undeniable of course) become magnified and then you have a new scapegoat. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Cahill won 100% of his 5 aerial duels against Manchester United tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Gary Cahill won 100% of his 5 aerial duels against Manchester United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Cahill won 100% of his 5 aerial duels against Manchester United tonight.U beat me to it ;p Hannah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 U beat me to it ;pI thought he had a great game so I decided to search some stuff on twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Not bad for an average centre-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 TBF, the game plan tonight suited him. We sit deep, defended and looking to play on the break. Was never going to get exposed and same with Terry.BUT as it is, credit where it is due for the performances. Both Cahill and Terry were very solid tonight. Van Persie who?! robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 TBF, the game plan tonight suited him. We sit deep, defended and looking to play on the break. Was never going to get exposed and same with Terry.BUT as it is, credit where it is due for the performances.agreed.The whole team defended very well, but even Mourinho mentioned that the transition going to attack wasn't very good; I reckon neither Cahill nor Terry can really contribute much going forward in open play because they lack mobility.Still good performances all around, though Welback did have a clear cut chance to score (thank god it was him!) and we did concede a PK, which should've been called in my view (lamps). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Jose seems to know how to get the best out of defenders and it really is showing in Cahill's recent form. Maybe he can beyond the 'average' tag he gets labeled with under Jose's tutelage. BOSS, Hannah and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 He was outstanding in yesterday's game, wasn't he? Stats and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Had a brilliant game. When it comes to last ditch defending he's absolute quality. Barbara, Peace. and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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