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make a survey and ask the people what the right solution is instead of this strenious thinking and reasoning

But what makes you think that someone else's opinion wasn't out of strenuous thinking and reasoning? You can't really compare your opinion on SFL being by far a better player than Scholes or Gerrard to a proven mathematic algorithm.

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I already did. My brother and some mates of me agreed wih me, when I made this point. but this is not the point. Do you really think collecting opinions is an epistemologically valuable way to finding the truth?I will ask my mathmatics professor why we do not simply make a survey and ask the people what the right solution is instead of this strenious thinking and reasoning...yup just let's put an "Is there anyone else who thinks that?" and leave it at that

Weren't you the one who passed a comment on Scholes before, and then admitted you hadn't seen him play much?

Look, I get that you like Lamps and you're trying really hard to let everyone know but his record is fantastic enough that you don't need to make comments suggesting he's better than Scholes or Giggs. They were different types of players for one thing, but all absolutely phenomenal in their own right.

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Comparing Lampard to Giggs and Scholes is a waste of time for both of you. Saying that one is better than the other is just foolish. Giggs is better than Lampard? Well the last time I checked Giggsy was a Winger and Lampsy was not. May as well say that Cech is better than Maradona.

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This certainly looks like it was Mourinho who had an influence on that. I mean they both have such a love fest for each other.

Indeed, Mourinho doesn't really need to care about the costs and so he won't. If the Guardian was right in suggesting Lampard dropped his demands and still got £120,000/week it begs the question what the initial demands were.

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Had Lampard gone to Utd he would probably been even more successful than he was with us and lets forget who retired Scholes from the England team :D

Paul Scholes scores goals but not as many as Lampard ,Lampard for me every time and that is without mentioning Scholes dreadful tackling for which he should have been sent off many more times than he was ,thanks to Fergies hold on referees.

Frank always held his own with Xavi ,Iniesta and co and was amongst the best midfielders in the world in his generation and Lamaprd is the best scoring midfielder in the world in his generation and goals are what the game is all about.

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Also, lmao at the comparisons to Scholes.

In my honest opinion, I believe Scholes in England's greatest midfielder of all time. That's not even disrespecting Lampard, that's just how simply amazing Scholes was.

I also lmao at the comparisons to Scholes. No way should a player like Scholes compared to a player so much superior. Thank god not only statistics but also the football world (for those of you who prefer the survey method) have it the same

@ Lamps vs Scholes vs Gerrard

1.Lampard prime > Scholes prime In 2005 Lamps was 2nd in world and European player of the year, which is quite some feat cos he is english&epl player, Scholes has never won an individual award of any significance

2.Lampard overall > Scholes overall

reflected by performances, stats and statistics respectively.

https://twitter.com/BigJohnTerry/status/291291194531651584/photo/1

They are not quite up to date (from end janaury or so)and only premier league but, updating and including more competitions only influences these stats even more in Lamps's favour, cos Gerrard has only assembled a massive 3 goals since then whilst Scholes has recorded a bombastic 0 goals and 0 assists. Lamps has scored at least 10 goals. If u include all competitions Lamps has 271 goals which is about as much as Scholes and gerrard have combined overall. Also Lamps's 0,34 goals per game ratio beats them both comfortably with 0,2 and 0,23 respectively. Interesting is also that Lamps has more goals in the league alone than either Scholes or Gerrard have overall( which are more matches). Also for England Lamps has a far better scoring record than both.

Also funny is that Lampard has waaay more games, esp. starts than Scholes, despite being 5 years younger. Shows how much the two actually contribute to their clubs.

Lamps has outscored Gerrard in 13 of the 17 seasons they have played in parallel, including the including the last 4 running, even though being older, outassisted Gerrard in every season they have played in parallel i have checked so far, outassisted and outscored Paul Scholes in every season since 2004.

Scholes's prime 2000-2005 is not even close to Lamps's 2005-2010 in terms of goals and assists and most importantly titles. Yes titles. When Scholes had the biggest imapct on his team during his career before becoming a bench player in these years he won 2 leagues, 1 fa cup, Lamps won 3 leagues, 4 fa cups and 2 league cups when he had the biggest impact on the team.

Now i have dug really deep to find some individual awards Scholes actually has won. He has been in the team of the decade 1992-2001. , Lamps has been player of the decade 2000-2009. Lamps has also won 39 individual awards to Scholes 7. Lamps also won 4 times player of the month, 3 times pfa team of the year to scholes's 2, Lamps has won silver award in european and world player of the year, world xi and countless other awards scholes can only dream of. That is why all in all Lamps beats scholes and gerrard in terms of all relevant statistics and individual awards.

Let's not forget Lampard literally kicked Scholes out of the England team. Scholes was 30 when he retired form international football. Lampard still carries on with almost 35.

In the ManU team Scholes was replaced by the mighty Steven Fletcher. Lampard had the competition of Deco, Ballack, Essien...and got the better of anyone.

Scholes played his last season in which he contributed in and not only featured as a mascot that sometimes strayed into the starting lineup (as a consequence of Utd's chronically shit midfield), carried as charity cause, in 2003/4 when he was 29. Lamps at the age of almost 35 is still a massive part of the team. 13 years of worldclass vs half career as Utd's answer to paulo ferreira (post 2007 ofc).

Lamps simply has performed better no matter what way you measure it and has done so over a way longer period.

You can compare Lampard to Zidane, Bobby Charlton or Lothar Matthäus. Scholes?

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I also lmao at the comparisons to Scholes. No way should a player like Scholes compared to a player so much superior.

Why do you feel the need to denigrate a player like Scholes when you've admitted before that you really haven't seen him play that much?

Are you that insecure about Lampard's legacy that you have to attack someone that most of us wouldn't consider a direct rival? Trust me - Lampard is a great enough player in his own right for you to ease off the quite frankly ludicrous attacks on Scholes.

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