Tomo 21,751 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Liverpool will fall from grace in the next few years. Many are completely forgetting this 'investment' came from Barcelona paying arguably the most ludicrous transfer for Coutinho. They funded VVD, Fabinho and Allison because of it. Yeah i always laugh my head off when i read that Klopp has has got unconditional backing, he's been firmly restricted net spend wise his entire time. Now there's no Coutinho money look at how well he's being "backed", nothing in the summer and having to buy a £7m player while rivals are eyeing Sancho and Haaland. Liverpool's board is actually bang average at everything bar selling players, they're incredibly lucky one of the few top decisions they have made is hiring a manager who can turn urine into wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Liverpool will fall from grace in the next few years. Many are completely forgetting this 'investment' came from Barcelona paying arguably the most ludicrous transfer for Coutinho. They funded VVD, Fabinho and Allison because of it. Liverpool will have Mane, Salah, and Firmino until they have no resale value. They can't compete against us, City, United, and even Arsenal financially. But they are above us and Arsenal in revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, Nicco said: But they are above us and Arsenal in revenue. From regular operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 hours ago, manpe said: A myth that many of his former players would disagree with. He is happy to point fingers at the players and everybody else but himself. No you're right I'm thinking more of his first spell with us. He did publicly have a go at Luke Shaw amongst others at Man United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I do wonder what the perception of Lampard would be had our form been the other way round - start the season poorly but then see improvement in form and results (e.g. the 7-game winning run)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaynChelsea 423 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Frank is safe for this season even if we continue to get such results. However, if the first matches of next season continue to be such a lottery, I reckon he will be kicked out pretty fast and rightly so. Quote I do wonder what the perception of Lampard would be had our form been the other way round - start the season poorly but then see improvement in form and results (e.g. the 7-game winning run)... The trend is your friend. If we lose out on CL, I fking want to avoid the Euro League. Terrible competition and a big handicap for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I do wonder what the perception of Lampard would be had our form been the other way round - start the season poorly but then see improvement in form and results (e.g. the 7-game winning run)...Chelsea Fans would want him sacked regardless, which is funny because when you look at our last couple of seasons:Conte finished 5th with Hazard Cesc and prime Kante.Conte got Sacked and Sarri finished third with prime Hazard and Teams like Arsenal and Spurs were bottling match After match. Top 4 Finish was just luck.Now, with Hazard gone and having not a Chance to buy in the Summer, we have Lamps coming in and he is still Top 4, reached the next Stage in CL and People want him sacked. Chelsea fans are high demanding, don't want to see long term Management and have unrealistic expectations. It took Klopp 3 Seasons to sort out the Defense. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk SinineUltra and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaynChelsea 423 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 It didn‘t take 3 seasons for Klopp to sort out the defence. It took van Dijk. Does anybody really believe the Liverpool defence would be the same without VVD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Chelsea Fans would want him sacked regardless, which is funny because when you look at our last couple of seasons: Conte finished 5th with Hazard Cesc and prime Kante. Conte got Sacked and Sarri finished third with prime Hazard and Teams like Arsenal and Spurs were bottling match After match. Top 4 Finish was just luck. Now, with Hazard gone and having not a Chance to buy in the Summer, we have Lamps coming in and he is still Top 4, reached the next Stage in CL and People want him sacked. Chelsea fans are high demanding, don't want to see long term Management and have unrealistic expectations. It took Klopp 3 Seasons to sort out the Defense. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk You keep forgetting Lampard is benefiting massively from teams like Tottenham and United dropping random points just as much if not more than Sarri. Continue like this and in a couple weeks we could easily be Top 8 since there is an entire horde right after us. ZaynChelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jason said: I do wonder what the perception of Lampard would be had our form been the other way round - start the season poorly but then see improvement in form and results (e.g. the 7-game winning run)... Easy - first sack him, then he's the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jason said: I do wonder what the perception of Lampard would be had our form been the other way round - start the season poorly but then see improvement in form and results (e.g. the 7-game winning run)... I would be better since it would mean were going in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, Jason said: I do wonder what the perception of Lampard would be had our form been the other way round - start the season poorly but then see improvement in form and results (e.g. the 7-game winning run)... That's what I expected. Didnt expect to be near top 4 in the first place. We started maybe to well. N cause of that think some expectations are higher then woildve been. Saying that it's the same mistakes being made that are worrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, Nicco said: I would be better since it would mean were going in the right direction. Good to know you can tell what will happen in the future. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Nicco said: You keep forgetting Lampard is benefiting massively from teams like Tottenham and United dropping random points just as much if not more than Sarri. Continue like this and in a couple weeks we could easily be Top 8 since there is an entire horde right after us. You could apply it the other way round as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ZaynChelsea said: Frank is safe for this season even if we continue to get such results. However, if the first matches of next season continue to be such a lottery, I reckon he will be kicked out pretty fast and rightly so. The trend is your friend. If we lose out on CL, I fking want to avoid the Euro League. Terrible competition and a big handicap for next season. Usually I would agree but I think Europa would come in handy next season if we miss out on CL. Will give us a platform to hand some significant minutes to Maatsen, Anjorin, Gilmour and possible even Lamptey. 48 minutes ago, Nicco said: I would be better since it would mean were going in the right direction. Team development is never a straight upward curve. Take Pool in Klopp's first full season, went from looking like our closest challengers to randomly losing three home games on the bounce. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Tomo said: Yeah i always laugh my head off when i read that Klopp has has got unconditional backing, he's been firmly restricted net spend wise his entire time. Now there's no Coutinho money look at how well he's being "backed", nothing in the summer and having to buy a £7m player while rivals are eyeing Sancho and Haaland. Liverpool's board is actually bang average at everything bar selling players, they're incredibly lucky one of the few top decisions they have made is hiring a manager who can turn urine into wine. They should have plenty of money to spend. Fanbase worldwide second only to Utd and one of the real giants of Euro and World football. Massive Nike deal. Looking to expand Anfield even more. Klopp's extending his contract so I can't see them going backwards any time soon. They're becoming scary good and hard to beat like the best Liverpool teams of old. I think even City will struggle to win the title in the next few years. If we do it, it will be by far our greatest title win! But we're at least 2 seasons and a few hundred million on new players from doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Screwed up again and start with the back 5 that he needs to change plan? Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Manager of the month jinx!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Thank you Jody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Well done to Jody for righting the ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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