🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

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9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Are you serious? Matic is not even good for weakest United in the last 30 years. 

Of course I am not talking about old matic. I am talking about position and role need. 

10 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Are you mad? Even prime 2014 Matic we are still levels away from City and Liverpool. 

Is prime matic worse than fabinho and Fernandinho? 

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

18 minutes ago, communicate said:

Of course, I am not talking about old matic. I am talking about position and role need. 

Is prime matic worse than fabinho and Fernandinho? 

No but Willian and Pedro are no where near as good as Mane, Salah, Sterling, Sane, Bernardo, and Mahrez. 

CHO and Pulisic are way too raw to even be considered. 

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4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

No but Willian and Pedro are no where near as good as Mane, Salah, Sterling, Sane, Bernardo, and Mahrez. 

CHO and Pulisic are way too raw to even be considered. 

I think you misunderstood my post. I said we are one matic away from being competitive but to contend with pool and city, it is whole another story. 

 

[Tomo 21,751]

8 hours ago, communicate said:

Of course I am not talking about old matic. I am talking about position and role need. 

Is prime matic worse than fabinho and Fernandinho? 

Sitting DMs are a thing of the past, pretty much all the top teams have DLPs running that area now and Frank from early evidence appears to have identified Gilmour as Jorginho's eventual replacement.

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35 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Sitting DMs are a thing of the past, pretty much all the top teams have DLPs running that area now and Frank from early evidence appears to have identified Gilmour as Jorginho's eventual replacement.

I disagree. Fernandinho, fabinho and Rodri are not really DLP. Rodri is arguably the player that is the most comfortable on the ball of out of 3,but he is is still a big strong player. 

For me it is all about balance. You want Jorginho as holder fine, either play back 3 or ask your rb to stay back most of the time ala Sarri and you cannot play fast. You must play possession based game and he must deliver. Last year was quite boring though

If you want to play with tons of transition, Jorginho is not your guy. 

Billy Gilmour looks like a really good player, he need to get better and become really2 good so we have to compensate ala Cesc. 

 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Every game we have that shitty zonal marking is on him

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[Tomo 21,751]

I haven't seen the game yet but I heard we managed it really well in the second half which has pleased me as I didn't hold back on my dissatisfaction on how we pissed away the Sheffield match.

It is a really strong sign how Frank is learning from his mistakes (which are inevitable so young). As amazing as the first half hour Vs Leicester was to watch the intensity we played with had us tanked for the second half and Leicester took the piss out of us and we haven't gone full pelt since and ever since the Sheffield match we have managed winning positions a lot better.

Compared to OGS up at United who's making the same mistakes again and again and again it's so good to see Frank evolving and learning and although he doesn't have the prior CV those two did, he's showing similar early signs to what Pep and Klopp did when they came to England in terms of the encouraging football we're playing.

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

I haven't seen the game yet but I heard we managed it really well in the second half which has pleased me as I didn't hold back on my dissatisfaction on how we pissed away the Sheffield match.

It is a really strong sign how Frank is learning from his mistakes (which are inevitable so young). As amazing as the first half hour Vs Leicester was to watch the intensity we played with had us tanked for the second half and Leicester took the piss out of us and we haven't gone full pelt since and ever since the Sheffield match we have managed winning positions a lot better.

Compared to OGS up at United who's making the same mistakes again and again and again it's so good to see Frank evolving and learning and although he doesn't have the prior CV those two did, he's showing similar early signs to what Pep and Klopp did when they came to England in terms of the encouraging football we're playing.

It was a solid second half display. No nonsense defending, players cleared their lines when they needed to and didn't give up anything like they did for Southampton's goal in the first half..

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[Vesper 30,213]

Frank Lampard names the Chelsea player who was an example to his team-mates against Southampton

The Chelsea head coach was full of praise for Willian after his performance against Southampton

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/players/lampard-names-chelsea-player-example-17041751

[Vesper 30,213]

Lampard: Chelsea in a nice position but nowhere near the finished article

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/lampard-chelsea-a-nice-position-nowhere-near-finished-article

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

 

I'm quite a big advocate of the XG data but how on earth has it come to the conclusion United should be 3rd? They're barely even creating anything of substance.

[Superblue 6,372]

Irrespective of the rest of the league, if anybody had said after losing 4-0 to United first game that going into the second international break after 8 games we'd be 5 points ahead of them with a better goal difference, and only 2 points behind City that everybody would have taken that.

I think quite a few people expected us to be somewhere around where United are currently with a squad struggling to find goals. The defence has to continue to be worked on (although I feel yesterday the problems were basic errors as opposed to tactical flaws, and the second half showed that we are continuing to improve with controlling games and seeing them out from winning positions), but the football is exciting, the young players have revitalised the club more than could have been imagined and it's all under one of the biggest legends in the club's history who (touch wood) despite his inexperience seems to be taking it in his stride, learning from mistakes and improving each passing game.

 

[Vesper 30,213]

liking these upcoming 14 fixtures

36 plus points are deffo there for the taking IMHO

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SINGING IS TOO BLUE 

Frank Lampard slams Chelsea fans who aimed ‘pikeys’ chant at West Ham supporters

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10078711/frank-lampard-chelsea-west-ham-blasts-pikey-chants-fans/

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

I'm not sure it was right from him to say that Willian was our best player in the last four, five games and Tomori is number one or two CB at the moment. I mean, I agree but he should not say it in public because of the other guys who also played very well. It's fine to praise individual performances but not in the way you put some over the others. 

[Tomo 21,751]

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

liking these upcoming 14 fixtures

36 plus points are deffo there for the taking IMHO

I do wonder how Frank will approach things if Liverpool drop a few points before we drop our next set.

Given the type of personality Lamps is and how hungry and confident the young players are I could see their eyes lighting up and sensing an opportunity. It will still more than likely be in vain but I can't imagine Lampard taking it lightly and saying "meh top four will do for now" if we can somehow claw a few points back of Liverpool and are only 6 points behind after a high number of games, he'd want to chase them down.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

3 hours ago, Tomo said:

I do wonder how Frank will approach things if Liverpool drop a few points before we drop our next set.

Given the type of personality Lamps is and how hungry and confident the young players are I could see their eyes lighting up and sensing an opportunity. It will still more than likely be in vain but I can't imagine Lampard taking it lightly and saying "meh top four will do for now" if we can somehow claw a few points back of Liverpool and are only 6 points behind after a high number of games, he'd want to chase them down.

Yeah I agree but I also think irrelevant of what team is at the top at this stage, be it City or Liverpool, we should just be thinking about getting as many points on the board and not being overly concerned how those two are doing. Just get as many points as possible and let them and the other teams fighting for the top 4 places worry about us. A title challenge was realistically never an expectation at the start of the season but as youve said, Frank and the boys could sense an opportunity looking at this next run and perhaps we could surprise many folk by getting as many points as possible in these next 9 or 10 league games or whatever it is. If we are still there and there's about come February/March, yes 100% start taking more of an interest in their results but I think for us especially at this stage, its too early to be worrying about those 2 when the likes of Arsenal, Spurs, Leicester and even West Ham will all be looking towards top 4/6 finishes too.

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

I do wonder how Frank will approach things if Liverpool drop a few points before we drop our next set.

Given the type of personality Lamps is and how hungry and confident the young players are I could see their eyes lighting up and sensing an opportunity. It will still more than likely be in vain but I can't imagine Lampard taking it lightly and saying "meh top four will do for now" if we can somehow claw a few points back of Liverpool and are only 6 points behind after a high number of games, he'd want to chase them down.

A couple details changed everything. We lost 2 points against Sheffield. Liverpool has been really lucky to win last three games including us. And that was a six pointer game. There you go, 4,5 details come differently and we would be in front of them. But that's football...