Superblue 6,372 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I think the only reason why Willian came to Barkley is because Ross just came in so he assumed he's not ready to take a penalty. Agree with this. I can't understand what all the fuss is about. We can all debate if Barkley is the right choice but if Lampard has made the decision that he is the best man for that job then it's right that he's first choice when he's on the pitch. I think the whole issue is that Barkley had only been on for a few minutes and not really got into the rhythm of the game, hence why Jorginho and Willian who seem to be the next in line, wanted to make sure he was prepared to take it. Willian shouldn't have hung around for as long once Barkley said he was fine, but I can't understand how this is Lampard's fault. If he's compiled a list of penalty takers then that should be adhered by the players unless the one who is in line to take doesn't fancy it (and in that circumstance they really shouldn't be considered then anyway). 1905didierblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I guess whatever happens, Lampard has "done well" in securing the long term future of our young players. Loftus-Cheek, Mount, CHO have all signed new contracts. James, Tomori and Abraham to follow suit. Now it's up to them to justify the hype and faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: I guess whatever happens, Lampard has "done well" in securing the long term future of our young players. Loftus-Cheek, Mount, CHO have all signed new contracts. James, Tomori and Abraham to follow suit. Now it's up to them to justify the hype and faith. It really is crazy to think that had literally anyone but Lamps been appointed, our side would look dramatically different. Mount, Tammy, Reece James, and Tomori would probably be back on loan after a couple of preseason matches. CHO would almost certainly be at Bayern. The transfer ban has inadvertently secured our future. Had yet another foreign manager come in or if Sarri had stayed none of what we see now would happen. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 If everyone is healthy my pick for our team will be Mount - Tammy - Cho Kovacic - kante - ruben Should be very2 dynamic and fun to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 18 hours ago, Pizy said: It really is crazy to think that had literally anyone but Lamps been appointed, our side would look dramatically different. Mount, Tammy, Reece James, and Tomori would probably be back on loan after a couple of preseason matches. CHO would almost certainly be at Bayern. The transfer ban has inadvertently secured our future. Had yet another foreign manager come in or if Sarri had stayed none of what we see now would happen. It is true. Lampard has already justified his appointment by tying down our top youbgsters. Shrewd move by the board to sign him. Even if we fuck up the season conpletely as long as we avoid relegation which should be expected, we will have a fresh startvin a new era as soon as the ban is over...with or without Lamps bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, communicate said: If everyone is healthy my pick for our team will be Mount - Tammy - Cho Kovacic - kante - ruben Should be very2 dynamic and fun to watch Agree apart from Jorginho in for Kovacic then swapping positions with Kante. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, communicate said: If everyone is healthy my pick for our team will be Mount - Tammy - Cho Kovacic - kante - ruben Should be very2 dynamic and fun to watch Mount is not a winger though, rather Pulisic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, communicate said: If everyone is healthy my pick for our team will be Mount - Tammy - Cho Kovacic - kante - ruben Should be very2 dynamic and fun to watch It remains to be seen if Loftus-Cheek can actually stay fit and play consecutive games. He has his back issues and isn't the most fit of players in terms of stamina and energy. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Think frank is underusing giroud. Tammy had a poor first half against Valencia and should have been subbed off at halftime or early second half. thats part of the learning as well. Start him again against Liverpool, but show him what he was not doing, via different player. also did not like azpi as rwb. Wrong player for that position. Conte won the fucking league with azpi as a cb in that formation! Any clues?! have to be honest here: I dislike frank as a manager so far. Vybz Kartel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I was a big supporter of Frank getting the job in the summer for the main reason that it needed someone to come in and work towards the long term benefits of the club rather than the short term. The coaches at Chelsea have always known it will be a couple of years cycle and as a result aren't prepared to think long term. It's very much a 'what can I get out of this job' approach for the coaches and with good reason because a trophy or two can only help boost their standing and profile for future jobs. Bringing Lampard in, someone who has an affinity with this club and an understanding of what the supporters would love to see, we have someone not afraid of making long term decisions even if they have a negative short term impact because he cares for the club and wants to see the club have a solid footing for longer term success even if he isn't the coach. The transfer ban has obviously aided things, but he could easily put Giroud ahead of Tammy, Barkley ahead of Mount and kept Luiz and loaned out Tomori. I'm pretty sure none of them would have had much look in under Sarri if he'd stayed. What Klopp said today is right, the work that Lampard has put in so far in just a short space of time has already turned Tammy and Mount into big players worth a lot of money. Tomori is heading down that route, and Hudson-Odoi is now signed up too. Yes Lampard still has a lot to learn tactically but he's in just his second year of management. It has to be taken into consideration in the grand scheme of things and if he needs to gain the experience, I'd rather he get it now when a core group of players are also in need of it because if the academy lads develop as we're all hoping and we buy well next summer, we could start growing back into a real force again. Until then, for the first time in a long while I enjoy watching us despite the lack of consistency at present and I love seeing players finally be given an opportunity who deserve it. Those that I've watched playing and winning us youth cups and hopefully becoming big players for our country too. It's easy to dismiss the pride, particularly English fans, have in players breaking through at their clubs from the youth team. Fernando, Atomiswave, Bosnian Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Tomo said: Aree apart from Jorginho in for Kovacic then swapping positions with Kante. I am not big fan of Jorginho if we want to play this more direct football. If we can sign a good holder then obviously kante will replace Kovacic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Jason said: It remains to be seen if Loftus-Cheek can actually stay fit and play consecutive games. He has his back issues and isn't the most fit of players in terms of stamina and energy. His back issue is going to be a problem. Such a shame though, I love big physical midfielder. Kante n kova are just too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Vybz Kartel said: Mount is not a winger though, rather Pulisic. It is not his ideal position but he should be fine. He will push up high close to Tammy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Robchels said: have to be honest here: I dislike frank as a manager so far. Really! is this because he don't pick the team you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Robchels said: Think frank is underusing giroud. Tammy had a poor first half against Valencia and should have been subbed off at halftime or early second half. thats part of the learning as well. Start him again against Liverpool, but show him what he was not doing, via different player. also did not like azpi as rwb. Wrong player for that position. Conte won the fucking league with azpi as a cb in that formation! Any clues?! have to be honest here: I dislike frank as a manager so far. Instead of Azpi who should play as wb? Willian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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killer1257 3,282 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Jason said: It remains to be seen if Loftus-Cheek can actually stay fit and play consecutive games. He has his back issues and isn't the most fit of players in terms of stamina and energy. I really liked Sarri´s approach.Play him for 70 minutes and then take him off. He always delivere when he played his natural position and then bring on Pulisic for him, so Mount can play as a no. 8 or 10 depending what Lamps system will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Look its his first season, he has already done very good imo considering he is a rookie, the ban, injured players all over the place and its not a world class squad as of yet. Nahh Lamps done very good so far imo, he himself has alot to ponder, sort the defence out, drop zonal, get our players back and we will do just fine. Ohh and his subs need improving. He will do his best for Chels and for the future thats for sure. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,186 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Frank Lampard reveals reason why Liverpool ‘superstar’ Mohamed Salah flopped at Chelsea Mohamed Salah didn’t succeed at Chelsea because he was facing intense competition for a spot in the starting line-up, according to Frank Lampard. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1180981/Frank-Lampard-Liverpool-news-Mohamed-Salah-Chelsea-news-Eden-Hazard-Fernando-Torres Frank Lampard claims Mohamed Salah flopped at Chelsea because the team had a large number of attacking options at that time. Salah joined the Blues in 2014 from Basel but failed to shine as then manager Jose Mourinho had a lot of different options to choose over him like Oscar, Eden Hazard, Andre Schurrle, Willian, Fernando Torres, Samuel Eto’o and Demba Ba. The star forward was loaned out to Fiorentina and then to Roma, who bought him in 2016 and that is when his career finally took off. snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 10 hours ago, communicate said: Instead of Azpi who should play as wb? Willian? Pedro? Yes even Willian. In my view the wb need to be more midfielders than defenders, otherwise the system becomes too defensive. We won he league with Moses these, so hes, yeah pretty sure Pedro can do about the same. @bigbluewillie Unfair... Did I not explicitly state what I disagreed with? Don’t even have a problem with his starting xi, aside from zouma heh (and Valencia weird formation), but more with his match management. do people here really think that frank is close, as a manager to say, conte, or even sarri, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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