Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Ledg 643]

Just out of curiosity because we are linked with almost every player of Real M - which players ended up on a good terms with Jose after his time there?

[bababoom 4,478]

Just out of curiosity because we are linked with almost every player of Real M - which players ended up on a good terms with Jose after his time there?

Verane, Alonso, Khedira and Modric i think.

[Ledg 643]

Verane, Alonso, Khedira and Modric i think.

Thank you very much.

With Khedira linked to Arsenal we can easily try to hijack the move. We don't need him that much now but just for the fun of it.

And we can still dream about Varane.

[zolayes 14,489]

things moving rather more slowly than I would like .. both incoming and outgoing

[robsblubot 3,595]

Janmaat is too good for Newcastle!!! Hijack the deal?

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

M.Valbuena To Moscow?...

[Jype 6,398]

Janmaat is too good for Newcastle!!! Hijack the deal?

And we need a new right-back why exactly?

[robsblubot 3,595]

And we need a new right-back why exactly?

Janmaat on the right, azpi on the left and Iva in CB.

that's a 5m for a 25-year-old international. As opposed to 20m+ for a 29-yo left back.

[Jype 6,398]

Janmaat on the right, azpi on the left and Iva in CB.

that's a 5m for a 25-year-old international. As opposed to 20m+ for a 29-yo left back.

There's a reason as to why Daryl Janmaat at 25 is still playing in the Eredivisie, which if I might add is usually not very well known for the quality of the defending. That's not me saying I don't think he's any good but to even suggest ditching the almost signed deal for Filipe Luis, one of the best left-backs in Europe for the last couple of years, in favour of signing Janmaat and continuing to play Azpilicueta out of position is insane.

Good player for Newcastle and will probably be a perfect replacement for Arsenal-bound Debuchy but I don't think he's anywhere close to being what we need right now and we can't sign everyone who's available for a decent price. If you're going to suggest we forget Luis and sign one of the Dutch defenders who impressed at the World Cup, at least go with Daley Blind who had a much better tournament and is actually a left-back.

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There's a reason as to why Daryl Janmaat at 25 is still playing in the Eredivisie, which if I might add is usually not very well known for the quality of the defending. That's not me saying I don't think he's any good but to even suggest ditching the almost signed deal for Filipe Luis, one of the best left-backs in Europe for the last couple of years, in favour of signing Janmaat and continuing to play Azpilicueta out of position is insane.

Good player for Newcastle and will probably be a perfect replacement for Arsenal-bound Debuchy but I don't think he's anywhere close to being what we need right now and we can't sign everyone who's available for a decent price. If you're going to suggest we forget Luis and sign one of the Dutch defenders who impressed at the World Cup, at least go with Daley Blind who had a much better tournament and is actually a left-back.

Disagree on Filipe being a sure bet. And I think we are overpaying for him by a wide margin. Rather have 2-3 5m bets than a 20m bet. Wasn't he injury-prone at some point too?

Filipe Luis has had his best season ever and it was only a season when surrounded by talented others. The worst time to acquire a player is after his best season ever, or immediately after some important achievement, like the Spanish title. The best player they got is Godin, who's better than both our CBs.

[Jype 6,398]

Disagree on Filipe being a sure bet. And I think we are overpaying for him by a wide margin. Rather have 2-3 5m bets than a 20m bet. Wasn't he injury-prone at some point too?

Filipe Luis has had his best season ever and it was only a season when surrounded by talented others. The worst time to acquire a player is after his best season ever, or immediately after some important achievement, like the Spanish title. The best player they got is Godin, who's better than both our CBs.

So you'd rather buy a few average players for £5m each and hope for a miracle than spend £15m on someone who's been among the best players in the world in his position for a couple of years now? Not sure you'll find many who agree with you there. We don't need quantity as much as we need quality and if the club thinks Luis is worth the £15m then I'm more than okay with that. And it's not like £15m for a class player who can give us three or four years of service at the highest level is some obscure amount of money.

Also, Luis has never been injury prone. Sure he just broke his leg a few years back which kept him out for a good while but that's not something we should be concerned about because naturally leg breaks are not recurring injuries like knee ligaments for example.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Janmaat is a decent player, could be a good squad player here but no way is he good enough to be a regular starter here. I'd happily rather overpay for Filipe Luis by £5/6/7m than buy Janmaat as a starter at RB which'll leave Azpi on the left.

[DavidEU 2,023]

Two somewhat bizarre transfers..

For half the cost of Ross McCormack moving to Fulham in the Championship...

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Janmaat was a bit better than decent in this world cup... and he's only 25 which means he may still be improving as a player.

So you'd rather buy a few average players for £5m each and hope for a miracle than spend £15m on someone who's been among the best players in the world in his position for a couple of years now? Not sure you'll find many who agree with you there. We don't need quantity as much as we need quality and if the club thinks Luis is worth the £15m then I'm more than okay with that. And it's not like £15m for a class player who can give us three or four years of service at the highest level is some obscure amount of money.

Also, Luis has never been injury prone. Sure he just broke his leg a few years back which kept him out for a good while but that's not something we should be concerned about because naturally leg breaks are not recurring injuries like knee ligaments for example.

Yep... I don't think the difference between him and Filipe is 15m Euros worth.

I'd love to be proven wrong once/if he signs for us.

Yes, I think Chelsea goes either too young or two "ready", but misses on the "good buys" territory... like Andre for example.

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Janmaat was a bit better than decent in this world cup... and he's only 25 which means he may still be improving as a player.

Yep... I don't think the difference between him and Filipe is 15m Euros worth.

I'd love to be proven wrong once/if he signs for us.

Yes, I think Chelsea goes either too young or two "ready", but misses on the "good buys" territory... like Andre for example.

How was he "a bit better than decent" when he couldn't even keep his place in the team after the group stage and only started 3 out of 7 games throughout Oranje's cup run? I do remember him being excellent against Spain in their opening game but other than that I didn't really see anything special and the question is, why didn't Louis Van Gaal trust him when the stakes got higher? Also, players should never be judged based only on their national team performances because there's always those who impress there but fail to live up to expectations when they get their big moves with players like Gregory Van der Wiel and Theodore Gebre-Selassie being prime examples of average full-backs who shined in the last two major international tournaments but have proved shit since. How good has Janmaat been at Feyenoord in the last two or three seasons, can you honestly say you know him enough to tell for sure? And even if he's been impressive there the step up from Eredivisie to the PL is huge, especially for defenders, so I wouldn't be so sure he can reproduce his performances in a much better league, at least not straight away without first going through an adaptation period, so I think a club like Newcastle are pretty ideal for him at the moment and the time to make a move to a big team will come later if he first proves himself in a better league.

And even if we disregard the debate on whether Janmaat is actually good enough, there's still the major issue that he's a right-back and that's probably the least of our worries at the moment. Why even consider trying to desperately fit a square peg in a round hole by getting another RB and continuing to play Azpilicueta out of position if the alternative is to get Luis who is exactly what we're looking for?

Whether you like him or not, Filipe Luis has proven to be one of the best left-backs in the world based on his form for the last 3-4 years and at least to me £15m for a player like that is not at all unreasonable. The fact he's soon to be 29 doesn't matter at all because it's about time we get a few players in their prime to compliment the 20-24 year olds who are still yet to reach their career peaks. I for one am very much looking forward to seeing Luis at Chelsea and as an attacking left-back he should also help unlock some of Hazard's potential by offering another option out wide so Hazard can't be marked so tightly, and that's something we couldn't achieve last season with Azpilicueta playing as a right footed left-back who didn't go forward much.