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12 hours ago, Vesper said:

CIES Football Observatory

n°303 - 06/07/2020

Values

Top transfer value increases with one more year of contract

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2019/wp303/en/

 

The 303rd edition of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the big-5 league players whose transfer value would increase the most if their contract with the club of belonging was extended for an additional year. The most positive gap overall was recorded for Jadon Sancho (+€43M), ahead of Kylian Mbappé (+€39M) and Lionel Messi (+€35M).

With two years of contract remaining, the transfer value of Jadon Sancho according to the exclusive CIES Football Observatory algorithm is currently just above €180M. A one-year contract extension would drive this figure up to €223M. If Kylian Mbappé extended his contract with Paris St-Germain from June 2022 to June 2023, his estimated transfer value would increase from €242M to €281M.

Lionel Messi leads the table among players with only one year of contract remaining ahead of Georginio Wijnaldum and Ferran Torres. By renewing their contracts for an additional year, their transfer values would increase from about €80M to €115M for Messi, from €44M to €64M for Wijnaldum, as well as from €42M to €61M for Torres.

Transfer value increases for one year contract extension (€ million)

Big-5 leagues players, 01/07/2020

 

wow,,Donnaruma is quitely intereseting. but,,since his Super agent Mino Raiola is hardly annoying to negotiate,,would be a great replacement for Kepa if he still not make a good progress this season...

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On 07/07/2020 at 3:35 AM, blu35_army said:

wow,,Donnaruma is quitely intereseting. but,,since his Super agent Mino Raiola is hardly annoying to negotiate,,would be a great replacement for Kepa if he still not make a good progress this season...

that cunt Mino Raiola is the agent for so many players I like

Paul Pogba    
Erling Haaland    
Matthijs de Ligt  
Marco Verratti    
Gianluigi Donnarumma    
Alessio Romagnoli  
Donyell Malen    
Marcus Thuram   
Calvin Stengs    
Myron Boadu    
Luca Pellegrini   
Andrea Pinamonti    
Alphonse Areola    
Diadie Samassékou   
Ryan Gravenberch  
Mitchel Bakker  
 

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On 06/07/2020 at 3:09 PM, King Kante said:

Didn't realise F.Torres only had a year left. He is a very interesting player. Doesn't get the most amazing stats but his play between/breaking the lines and close control is very very high. He is one of those AM's like B.Silva for City, will be a very smart signing imo. 

For what it's worth, Guillem Balague really likes Torres.

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 Kai Havertz has asked his club to reach an agreement to leave and join Chelsea (RMC Sport) #CFC #RMCF #B04

Chelsea are willing to meet Bayer’s €100m valuation for Havertz, but want instalmental payments. Chelsea could offer €70m up front and €30-40m at a later date. #CFC

 

Chelsea close on Havertz as player wants Stamford Bridge move - sources

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/4131319/chelsea-close-on-havertz-as-player-wants-stamford-bridge-move-sources?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Success of Fernandes should make it easier for Sancho to see future at United

https://theathletic.com/1909219/2020/07/08/manchester-united-jadon-sancho-solskjaer/

It might be a little early to say with absolute authority that the players driving Manchester United’s revival are capable of turning all this upward momentum into something more consistent and meaningful.

There is, however, a soaring belief at Old Trafford that their recent improvement offers clear evidence to say, at the very least, they are no longer willing to tolerate the idea that it is only Liverpool and Manchester City having all the fun.

How could you come to any other conclusion? Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s players are operating with a new spirit of adventure, racking up a run of freewheeling wins while simultaneously presenting their case to Jadon Sancho that, yes, this is the place where he can achieve his ambitions.

Those players appear to have been reminded about what a Manchester United team ought to look like. It has extended their unbeaten stretch, pre- and post-lockdown, to 16 games and, whatever stresses they have had to endure before this point, they also seem to have figured out it is still possible to give their season a happy ending. They might just have heard the penny drop.

If this has to be tempered with an element of caution, it is because there have been other periods during the post-Ferguson years when sporadic bursts of optimism have been overtaken by a succession of false dawns, jarring disappointments and more transfer-window trauma than a club with United’s ambitions will probably wish to remember.

Even now, there are imperfections, such as the puzzle of David de Gea and the persistent suspicion that Harry Maguire — with his vulnerability to quick, penetrative opponents — remains a notch or two below the level where Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Jaap Stam and United’s other great centre-halves were marked.

Maguire was deceived too easily for Bournemouth’s opening goal in United’s 5-2 win at Old Trafford on Saturday and there was a moment during the water break when Solskjaer seemed to forget there were television cameras on them. The manager remembered in time to show a measure of restraint but it was quite something to see the look he gave United’s occasionally accident-prone £80 million man. It was a death stare of which Al Pacino would have been proud.

As for De Gea, he has not looked this susceptible since his first season at the club. Back then, at least there was the ready-made excuse of him being raw and inexperienced in English football. It is much harder these days to understand what is wrong, though one suspicion within the club is that he is no longer pushing himself as hard as he once was.

De Gea was United’s Player of the Year in four out of five seasons — more than any other player in the club’s history, overtaking Cristiano Ronaldo in 2018 — and the contract he signed last September was initially reported as £350,000 a week until someone very high up at Old Trafford made it clear the true figure was actually a heck of a lot more. Has a once-brilliant performer allowed complacency, the corrosive byproduct of sustained success, to creep in?

Solskjaer must find it immensely encouraging otherwise to see the way his team has set about improving their league position. Solskjaer’s own performance has been under scrutiny but that will ease up, too, if United continue to play with the strength of personality and engaging skill that has seen them produce arguably the best football in the country since the Premier League’s resumption.

In doing so, they are also sending a clear message to Sancho. Forget the recent reports that United are refusing to go higher than £50 million to persuade Borussia Dortmund to part company with Sancho. Those stories were a surprise to the people involved in the negotiations. If Sancho has been keeping track of United’s improved form, it is easy to understand why the 20-year-old England international might find the idea of a move to Old Trafford increasingly appealing.

Sancho has always made it a stipulation that he wants to join a club that is a) free of disruption in the Champions League and c) capable of challenging for multiple trophies. Earlier in the season, it was not certain that United could tick any of those boxes. Then Bruno Fernandes signed from Sporting Lisbon and suddenly every United game has started to feel like a grand occasion again.

In analysing their unbeaten run since February, even a casual observer could see that the mid-season arrival from Portugal has been at the heart of it all.

What Sancho can see at United now is a more settled club where Paul Pogba, free of injuries and transfer talk, seems to be playing with renewed purpose and Anthony Martial is demonstrating that maybe he does have it in him to make the leap from being a talented, occasionally brilliant footballer into one who touches those heights consistently.

There are some reputable managers — Didier Deschamps, Jose Mourinho and Claudio Ranieri among them — who have grown exasperated by Martial’s apparent inability to grasp this subtle yet important difference. However, it seems United are seeing the benefits of not allowing Mourinho to get his way when their previous manager wanted to sell Martial.

Mourinho, who was not accustomed to being overruled, always suspected the decision was taken by Joel Glazer, one of the club’s American directors, because Martial was his favourite player and — you can imagine the mix of disdain and sarcasm in Mourinho’s voice — because the feeling in Florida was that this was United’s Pele.

Well, Martial is a fair bit off that level, but he has now accumulated 20 goals in 39 games this season. It is the first time Martial has reached the 20-goal mark in his five years in Manchester and, given his present form, it will be intriguing to see whether Deschamps recalls him for France’s games against Sweden and Croatia in early September.

Martial’s international career has been restricted so far to 18 caps — nine coming as a substitute — and just a solitary goal. His last cap was a friendly against Russia in March 2018 and he was substituted after 58 minutes. Nor has it helped that on the two occasions France have called him up since the last World Cup, he has withdrawn with injury, only to start for his club the following weekend.

The more important detail for United is that, on recent evidence, Solskjaer’s players turned a corner. Perhaps as a result of the upturn in form, the bond between the players and their current manager appears to be considerably stronger than it was with the previous one. Just look at the key players.

Pogba has hopefully gone past the stage whereby Solskjaer, like Mourinho, might have felt entitled to ask the question: what am I going to get from you today?

In his recent performances, Martial cannot be accused of the alleged lack of effort that saw him lampooned in United’s Red News fanzine and has meant his two-year-plus absence from Deschamps’ France squad has generated very little controversy.

Marcus Rashford is getting better and better, season by season, and Mason Greenwood’s acceleration towards superstar status indicates that, if a deal does happen for Sancho, we should not just assume the new recruit would be a mandatory first-team pick.

Solskjaer says that Greenwood, who has been operating on the right side of attack, is possibly the best finisher he has ever worked with and that is some statement at a club where they usually go to strenuous efforts not to hype up their young players.

The context here is that Solskjaer has played with, among others, Eric Cantona, Dwight Yorke, Andy Cole, Teddy Sheringham, Wayne Rooney, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Cristiano Ronaldo. Yet there has been absolutely nothing to suggest United’s latest prodigy will let the manager’s acclaim go to his head.

This is one of Solskjaer’s criteria to be a first-team player at Old Trafford: humility off the pitch, arrogance on it. Arrogance means to want the ball and to stand tall after pulling on that red shirt, which shows you are representing one of the greatest football clubs in the world. Rashford is the prime example. Greenwood, thrillingly, seems to be, too.

What Solskjaer will also realise is that it is futile taking too much encouragement from the statistic that tells us Martial, Rashford and Greenwood have accumulated more goals for United this season (55) than Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino have for Liverpool (51). It is a nice, quirky statistic but nothing more and, ultimately, what does it matter when Liverpool are finishing the season as a tiny speck in the distance?

The two clubs are separated by a gap of 34 points. Gap? It is more of a chasm, even if Solskjaer could be forgiven for wondering what difference it would have made to United’s season if they had gone for Fernandes last summer rather than waiting, for reasons never fully explained, until January.

Fernandes, unable to find a buyer, signed a new contract at Sporting Lisbon in November and that was the point when United decided that he was, after all, worth going after. He would have been cheaper last summer and, boy, the team needed him during those long, difficult periods when they were grubbing around for points outside the top six and, in the worst moments, dreadfully short of wit and creativity.

Can anybody be surprised that people find United’s recruitment so bewildering? To their credit, £47 million for Fernandes still looks a very good deal. Not least when he is showing Sancho the fun that could be had with this team.

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Havertz and Benrahma are coming soon !!!!

CF   Werner    Giroud   Abraham(loan?)

WG   Pulisic   Ziyech   Benrahma   CHO(loan?)

CAM   Havertz  RLC(loan?)

CH    Kante   Kovacic   Mount    Gilmour    (Rabiot?)

 

What´s    a squad  !!!!!

 

Sell    Batshuayi    Jorginho   Barkley    Bakayoko    Kennedy    Moses 

 

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I wonder how much Werner and Rudiger will effect Havertz decision to come to Chelsea?

 

Oops, wrong thread!

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I wonder how much Werner and Rudiger will effect Havertz decision to come to Chelsea?

Probably a lot. He can hang out with them and they can push each other to the next level. French players usually went to Arsene Wenger because Arsenal always had some French player in the team, so it made sense to move there.

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16 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Probably a lot. He can hang out with them and they can push each other to the next level. French players usually went to Arsene Wenger because Arsenal always had some French player in the team, so it made sense to move there.

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Within the German national team the three of them seem to be friends.

Pulisic and Bradley play together on the national team, but do not seem to be friends. Pulisic is usually with the players his age that he came up with on the national development teams.

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This was an interesting quick read.

 

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United’s spending will be measured – but they do have funds for Sancho

https://theathletic.com/1914534/2020/07/09/manchester-united-transfer-window-jadon-sancho/

English football’s transfer window is set to open at the end of the month, once the Premier League finishes on July 26, and attention is beginning to turn to expected budgets, which will be affected across the board by the coronavirus crisis.

Supported by steady commercial revenue, Manchester United are more incubated than most. But even they are not immune, and industry sources say United are discussing a total net outlay in the region of £50 million.

United are adamant they have not set a fixed budget, because many of the financial impacts of the pandemic are still unknown and the market is in a state of flux. Insiders also predict United’s ambition to close the gap on Liverpool and Manchester City will ultimately see significant spending, but advertising an intention to wheel out a big pot of cash would undermine their leverage.

They could also pay out the cost of transfers over the course of a number of years, thus alleviating pressure on this year’s accounts.

It is clear, however, that the changing landscape has prompted tighter reins on finances.

The Athletic understands United are calculating for a hit due to the pandemic of £110 million-£115 million. Chief financial officer Cliff Baty revealed on May 21, during the club’s third-quarter results, that a £28 million reduction had already been incurred, and the overall loss because of COVID-19 is projected to eventually reach four times as much.

Uncertainty over when fans will be able to return to stadiums is a major consideration but should crowds come back quicker than anticipated the financial impact will be mitigated and authorities are working towards this outcome.

It is uncertain what the situation means for United in the market. Any budget can, of course, be bolstered by sales and the club will listen to offers for Alexis Sanchez, Marcos Rojo, Phil Jones and Chris Smalling. Jesse Lingard and Diogo Dalot are two more who could be sold to raise funds and lower the wage bill.

Finding buyers – or even borrowers – capable of taking on their salaries is one issue, however, and there is an element of irony here should United end up qualifying for the Champions League, because each player has a 25 per cent increase clause written into his contract. Someone earning £75,000 per week this season would be on almost £100,000 per week during the next campaign if United secure a return to Europe’s elite club competition in the next three weeks.

Roma want to take Smalling permanently after his highly impressive loan spell but would struggle to meet the £25 million asking price. Other European clubs are interested. Lingard could command a similar fee, particularly if superagent Mino Raiola engineers him a move to Serie A. Should Inter look to keep Sanchez, most likely on a second loan, it could save United around £10 million a year in wages. Jones, still only 28, is also being looked at by Italian clubs after the success of Ashley Young’s move. Italy’s relatively new tax laws help explain why a number of Premier League players have moved to the country.

It will be the responsibility of executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward and principally Matt Judge, United’s chief negotiator, to extract the most value from the club’s assets.

Responding to a question on the subject of transfers, manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer said: “There’s got to be realism. The whole world has changed both financially and in the perception we’ve got on values, so every time I put the case in front of Ed, I think it’s a sensible one and a realistic one. I think I’ve proven to the club I’ve always got the club in the front of my mind. I don’t think short term or (that) personally, ‘This would fit me’. I always think long term and try to make good deals. I’m always quite careful with money — personal money as well.”

Last summer, United spent £145 million on Harry Maguire, Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Dan James, but the net outlay was around £70 million after Romelu Lukaku was sold to Inter. In January, Bruno Fernandes arrived for an initial £47 million — money initially allocated to this summer’s budget.

An added, important consideration is that the cost of any transfer can be spread over the duration of a player’s contract. Previously, United have paid up front to get deals done, as seen in Maguire’s move from Leicester last August which triggered a fall in cash levels, but using instalments is one way of making money go further in the current climate. A £75 million signing could be accounted for across three years at £25 million each, for example.

Jadon Sancho is United’s principal target. Strengthening their right wing remains the priority despite Mason Greenwood’s emergence because Solskjaer wants quality strength in depth across his frontline to ultimately challenge for the title.

It is understood that a considerable amount of money has been allocated to the pursuit of Sancho, more than the reported £50 million. Borussia Dortmund are insisting their price for the 20-year-old England international will not be lowered from a guaranteed €100 million (£87 million) and have set a deadline of August 10 for a deal to be concluded.

But given the window could be open until October 1, United are said to be relaxed about any implied deadlines. Talks went on for weeks with Leicester for Maguire and with Sporting Lisbon on Fernandes as fees were haggled over.

Some close to the club feel swifter conclusions would have benefitted the team, however, and point to Chelsea’s acquisitions of Hakim Ziyech and Timo Werner as examples of decisive action. After those transfers, funded by the sale of Eden Hazard, Chelsea are understood to also be operating a measured approach to the forthcoming window, with Marina Granovskaia looking to balance signings with sales.

As far as United are concerned, sources have suggested Ousmane Dembele, who has two years left on his Barcelona contract and is out of favour, could be a less expensive alternative to Sancho.

United are also searching for another striker, with Odion Ighalo’s loan up in January. Lyon’s Moussa Dembele has long been tracked.

“You need competition for places at Manchester United,” Solskjaer said. “If you think you’ve got a divine right to be playing every game and are doing so well that we’re not going to look for players to replace you, you’re in the wrong place.

“I’ve been here myself for so many years as a striker, and Teddy Sheringham comes in, Dwight Yorke comes in, Ruud van Nistelrooy comes in, Wayne Rooney comes in. We’ve always got to look at improving, and if they don’t improve, we might have to look somewhere else to get better because we have to be better. We’re too far away from where we need to be.”

Scouts have been tasked with highlighting left-footed centre-backs too, should Rojo depart. Solskjaer appeared to make United’s attention in this area of the pitch obvious by approaching Nathan Ake after the 5-2 win over Bournemouth on Saturday.

 

(Photo: Peter Powell/Pool via Getty Images)

Sources say Ake is of some interest to United but a proposed £40 million cost would prove prohibitive, and there are a number of possible options.

United were previously in the market for a holding midfielder but Nemanja Matic’s contract extension to 2023 has altered the situation. It is accepted Birmingham City rising star Jude Bellingham will head the same way as Erling Haaland and sign for Dortmund. That has caused some frustration.

United admire Jack Grealish and have been impressed by his leadership in difficult circumstances at relegation-threatened Aston Villa. Paul Pogba’s recent renaissance has lessened the need for a creative midfielder for the starting XI, and his happiness combined with financial complications for potential suitors Real Madrid and Juventus raises the probability of him staying at Old Trafford. But Grealish would add the quality in depth Solskjaer is searching for.

In United’s quarterly earnings call, Woodward said: “There are still profound challenges ahead, and for football as a whole, and it is safe to say it will not be ‘business as usual’ for some time.”

He wrote in the programme notes for the Sheffield United match two weeks ago: “Off the pitch, there is no escaping the reality that the coming months are going to be difficult for everyone in football and we are no exception. However, our club’s foundations are solid and provided we stick together and manage our resources carefully, we will come through this period with our strength intact.”

[DanP2311 65]

Is Zouma leaving?

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On 7/10/2020 at 10:17 PM, DanP2311 said:

Is Zouma leaving?

There have been several tweets that his representatives have been in contact with other teams. Everton is the one most mentioned.

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For me... Ake was always a beast. I could not believe it when we sold him. I was geuinely in shock. I hope United don't get him. 

[killer1257 3,282]

For me... Ake was always a beast. I could not believe it when we sold him. I was geuinely in shock. I hope United don't get him. 

Yeah, another Mou fuck up.
Ake has an insane football IQ.

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