kc_blue 265 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: We need to hold on to him, heck force him into leaving on a free. We cant let our best players force our hand, on the other hand though Sarri fucked up by not at the very least starting him at least 3 Europa games plus league cup I would continue to play him this season and reevaluate the situation in the summer. The way they've gone about it means I would not accept a bid from Bayern period. We really can't let him and them run all over us, it would set a bad precedent. Vybzkartel and Sideshow Luiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: We need to hold on to him, heck force him into leaving on a free. We cant let our best players force our hand, on the other hand though Sarri fucked up by not at the very least starting him at least 3 Europa games plus league cup I'm not entirely convinced that the Europa league matches would have done anything. I'm not sure that 4 matches is the difference between signing a long term deal, and making waves for another club. Sure, didn't help, but you've been at the club since 7. So 4 matches? I'm not convinced. kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: I'm not entirely convinced that the Europa league matches would have done anything. I'm not sure that 4 matches is the difference between signing a long term deal, and making waves for another club. Sure, didn't help, but you've been at the club since 7. So 4 matches? I'm not convinced. His being silly to be fair he was only 17. 2 weeks ago I have a feeling the agent is pushing for a move because they make more off the commission. There are legit reasons to leave Chelsea but it seems more of a case of agent trying to benefit more than the player pushing this. Sideshow Luiz and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: His being silly to be fair he was only 17. 2 weeks ago I have a feeling the agent is pushing for a move because they make more off the commission. There are legit reasons to leave Chelsea but it seems more of a case of agent trying to benefit more than the player pushing this. yeah i can see the agent telling him what to do too. he is at an age where it is still easy to be manipulated. There has to be found another compensation scheme so that they do not push players to switch clubs all the time. kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: yeah i can see the agent telling him what to do too. he is at an age where it is still easy to be manipulated. There has to be found another compensation scheme so that they do not push players to switch clubs all the time. FIFA is looking into clipping the wings of agents, after Raiola made 40 million off the Pogba transfer. The prick was representing all 3 parties apparently. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: FIFA is looking into clipping the wings of agents, after Raiola made 40 million off the Pogba transfer. The prick was representing all 3 parties apparently. LOL in any other business you'd go to jail for that clear conflict of interest Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Chelsea transfer news: Blues are hiding real striker targets - Pat Nevin https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1069927/Chelsea-transfer-news-Maurizio-Sarri-Krzysztof-Piatek-Gonzalo-Higuain So much so that our board don't even tho ! Vesper and Sideshow Luiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,276 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, mccg said: Chelsea transfer news: Blues are hiding real striker targets - Pat Nevin https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1069927/Chelsea-transfer-news-Maurizio-Sarri-Krzysztof-Piatek-Gonzalo-Higuain So much so that our board don't even tho ! Let's hope he is right. I would be over the moon with Jovic or Piątek, or Haller. Unionjack and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Vesper said: Let's hope he is right. I woukd be over the moon with Jovic or Piątek, or Haller. Yeah was just going to post this GMTA He doesn't suggest just WHO they MIGHT be tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,276 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Vybzkartel said: His being silly to be fair he was only 17. 2 weeks ago I have a feeling the agent is pushing for a move because they make more off the commission. There are legit reasons to leave Chelsea but it seems more of a case of agent trying to benefit more than the player pushing this. November 7, 2000. His DOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,276 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Unionjack said: Yeah was just going to post this GMTA He doesn't suggest just WHO they MIGHT be tho Yes. He did mention Piątek. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Unionjack said: Yeah was just going to post this GMTA He doesn't suggest just WHO they MIGHT be tho Yeah Pat is part of the clubs camouflage ,he was told to chuck out a media smoke bomb , we are the sas of footie transfers lol kc_blue, Unionjack and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, mccg said: Yeah Pat is part of the clubs camouflage ,he was told to chuck out a media smoke bomb , we are the sas of footie transfers lol Agent Nevin! Vesper and mccg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Arnautovic's agent, his brother has just released a statement saying his brother wants out and they should grant him his wish. China bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Vesper said: November 7, 2000. His DOB. It was a figure of speech. I know he turned 18 in November. But my point still stands he was 17 no way does he expect to be a starter at that age. Sarri should still have done a better job of playing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Delete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just imagine selling Fabregas, Willian, Morata, Drinkwater, Moses (pretty much deadwood even though two of them were pretty much starters ) and buying Malcolm, Piatek, Paredes and Barella. That would be HUGE! But this is Chelsea. We will keep Willian instead of Malcolm and buy Andy Carroll to lead our attack. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,276 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Let me posit a laser-focused list of moves to do this window and in summer to sort us. This assumes CHO and Eden leaving. Get RB Achraf Hakimi plus £100m cash for Eden, Hakimi will be world class top 5 RB, he is a great takeaway Get RW Malcom plus £15 for Willian Buy Barella, SORT IT NOW! Loan him back till summer as his wife is 6 month preggers and doesnt want to move yet (totally valid) £45m Let Kovacic go back Buy Paredes NOW £30m or loan him for 6 months (he is different player than Barella) THEN sell to Boca either way Buy Sandro Tonali £25m Buy CF Luka Jovic for £55m Buy CF Piatek for CF £55m Buy LW Hirving Lozano £40m Buy RB Chilwell £50m Buy CB Éder Militão £45m (Luiz replacment) Buy AMF Nabil Fekir £60m Swap Morata for Suso plus £10m Promote Reece James and Tammy (backup striker) Angus Gunn (back up keeper and HG) £20m Pulisic £60m that's a net spend of £360m (counting both Paredes and Tonali) now for the sales Cesc £10m Luiz and Cahill will leave on frees (or we get a wee bit for Cahill if leaves this January) CHO £40m (our hands are tied, grrrr) Zappacosta £15m Alonso £45m (if not then sell Emerson for £20m, one has to go as Chilwell would be coming in a starter) Drinkwater £20m just get him out! Exhibit 1 for how stupid our board is Bakayoko £30m Moses £17.5m Sell Kenedy £17.5m Bats £30m Sell Zouma (£25m) Sell Musonda (£10m) Sell Barkley (£25m) Sell Pedro (£15m) Sell Giroud (£10m) Sell Paredes to Boca to make way for Tonali £30m thats £340 in total sales (£315m if Emerson goes instead of Alonso) meaning we only spend a total net of £20m to £45m for BOTH windows (lets even give a £50m wiggle room (in terms of extra cost or reduced sale value stipulation) its still only £70m to £95m net spend over 2 windows to totally remake and strengthen team (yes the team below is stronger than we have now, even with Eden leaving, as the 4 wingers en toto are better than what we have now, plus the MF and ESPECIALLY Fullback and strikers are massively upgraded as well) this leaves a 25 man roster, (including 8 HG's, so no issue there), of GK Kepa GK Gunn (HG) GK Bulka (HG) CB Rudiger CB Militão CB Azpi CB Ampadu (HG) MF cover as well CB AC (HG) LB Chilwell (HG) LB Alonso (or Emerson) RB Achraf Hakimi RB Reece James (HG) plus Azpi as cover DH DMF Jorginho DH DMF Sandro Tonali (after Paredes leaves to Boca from loan or buy) CMF Kante CMF Barella (He can play all 3 MF positions, so no pressure on Tonali to stp up instantly when Jorginho cannot play) AMF Fekir AMF RLC (HG) LW Pulisic (right footed) LW Lozano (right footed) RW Suso (left footed) RW Malcom (left footed) CF Piatek CF Jovic CF Tammy (HG) BOOOM and all that is more than doable, and I gave plenty of leeway money-wise DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mccg 1,528 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Nathan Ake 'in line for shock return to Stamford Bridge' with Chelsea ready to activate Bournemouth defender's £40m buy-back clause this summer https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6585675/Nathan-Ake-line-return-Stamford-Bridge-Chelsea-ready-activate-buy-clause.html Chelsea ready to activate £40m buy-back clause for Bournemouth star Nathan Ake https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/12/chelsea-ready-activate-40m-buy-back-clause-bournemouth-star-nathan-ake-8338683/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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