whinni09 37 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'm not sure at all if De Bruyne has the capability to play as an deeplying playmaker. I do think Oscar is the better option for that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Fellaini is not fuckin DM! How will he replace Mikel, I dont get it...he could only pair Mikel or play in attacking trio.Yes he is. He's only been pushed on because Moyes needed his presence further forward.DM: When playing for in an attacking team, the defensive mid must at times compose the center back line, even work on cover and other times even being the last defensive man. Fellaini aint going to do it well, he knows how to tackle, but his positioning isnt outstanding. He would be much better than Mikel and would cost at least 20mi.CM: We need a deep lying playmaker: Joao Moutinho, Hernanes, Xabi Alonso, KDB etc. Fellaini is not that kind of player, he is a great player, but not a playmaker. He has no vision and passing ability to perform well in that role.Fellaini is a great player, not what we need though.Again, I think he would be a massive upgrade over Mikel. Part of the reason we have Ramires alongside Mikel is to cover up for a lot of his failings. With someone like Fellaini in there, we could conceivably drop someone like Oscar back into that playmaker role and not be exposed quite so much. GIBBO3000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 We are being strongly linked with Luke Shaw of southampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yes he is. He's only been pushed on be cause Moyes needed his presence in attack.Well he might be DM too but as player he is best as SS or CAM.However he is not improvement over Mikel at DM, he doesnt even play there this year...Hernanes is beast this year, would be good adition to CM position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 also saw today news of our interest in karim benezema what do you all think? not taking into acct the euros when hes on his link up is good as well as his finishing and he still has plenty of pace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBO3000 20 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 oscar should be playing for ramires in the DM position. We should get a better player to play in the Mikel position so he can learn what to do with the ball when we are attacking. Defending alone will not cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Well he might be DM too but as player he is best as SS or CAM.However he is not improvement over Mikel at DM, he doesnt even play there this year...Hernanes is beast this year, would be good adition to CM position...He actually said recently that he sees himself as being 'better' in the DM position and I agree. He also has the experience of playing in the Premier League which is essential for any player looking to move in January in my opinion.You say he isn't an improvement over Mikel, but you don't say why. I like Mikel, and he's been good this year except for when he hasn't. Technically I think he is good enough, but I have serious reservations about his character especially under pressure. Look at the Juventus game where he gave away the ball for the second pass and just stood there sulking rather than fighting to win it back. You may say it's only one instance, but I say it's indicative of a larger issue which his personality. Under pressure people tend to revert to their basic character type. Look at John Terry - he's a fighter. Back's against the wall, he fights. With Mikel, he hides. DM is the one position on the pitch where you can't do that because it's integral to everything else going on in the team. He has to cover for the defenders, he has to start every move off, he has to always be available and he has to be alert enough to get the ball away quickly. Mikel is too ponderous. He takes 3 or 4 touches sometimes when 2 is enough and he can be caught in possession. Sometimes he gets lucky and uses his strength to get away (Spurs, away), sometimes he gets it nicked off him (Liverpool, last season).Fellaini on the other hand has put his hand up this year and told his teammates that he will carry them on his back. He DESTROYED Man United in the first game of the season almost single-handedly and you can see in Everton matches that they often look to him in tight spots. He's not the finished article, but to me he has a lot of the intangibles to be a great player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Akinfenwa anyone? He's strong, he has the power unlike Torres who falls like a piece of paper, has balls to take out defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Akinfenwa anyone? He's strong, he has the power unlike Torres who falls like a piece of paper, has balls to take out defenders.Sorry, this ain't FIFA. Akinfenwa isn't anything special in real lfe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Just out of curiosity, does anybody think we are going to spend big this January? and if so, can you seeing it be large amounts on 1 or 2 players, or spread out amongst 5 or 6 players?The Falcao rumours have died down (however im sure they will spark up again in January) and everyone seems to think we need a new DM so do people think we will splash out and top quality striker and top quality DM or are we just going to get an average DM and couple of average strikers and maybe a youngish CB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Sorry, this ain't FIFA. Akinfenwa isn't anything special in real lfe.But mate, if you'd compare him with Torres there is still some hope, a small light that he is better than Torres at the moment. I mean c'mon, who worser than Torres can be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I wouldn't mind us going for Fischer from Ajax! I often forget we're one of the biggest and best clubs in the world (despite our form), so we deserve the very best.I see Fischer becoming everything Gronkjaer was hyped up to be and more. He's brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 530 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Akinfenwa anyone? He's strong, he has the power unlike Torres who falls like a piece of paper, has balls to take out defenders.never...hes terrible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola kinda blue 89 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 CarloFan Liverpool are reportedly close to finalising a £12m deal for Daniel Sturridge. (Daily Mail) #CFCIf he does go, I hope we get 2 replacements in, cos it would be just like us to get one in and then he gets injured, so Torres plays al the time again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaKid10 35 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think we need at least 4 players in jan. it will cost us big but it is worth it. Cb-Dm-Cam/Cf-StCb either Hummels or badstuber would be amazing.Dm. Fernandinho/Vidal/Cabaye/TioteCam/Cf Jovetic/Isco/Fellaini/El shaarawySt Gomez/Cavani/Lewandowski/Falcao/Damiao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 we don't need a cam... and i don't see Cabaye as a DM, but it would be great to have him in our double pivot in stead of Ramires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I do agree we need 4 players in january.A Cb,Cdm and two strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Why would we buy a centre-back now when we have Terry, Ivanovic, Luis and Cahill? Unless we sell one (Luiz) or someone special becomes available, it's not an area we're going to strengthen. I honestly don't think we need to because most of our problems come from.....DM. We need one. An imposing, alert, hard-working, never-say-die guy. That guy is Fellaini in my opinion. He can replace Mikel and hopefully produce the type of performances that mean we can play Oscar in the double-pivot rather than Ramires (who covers up a lot of Mikel's failings). In fact, maybe Mikel could be tested in the double-pivot where he'd have less defensive responsibilities. I'm not saying it would work, but we could try it.Strikers. With Sturridge 99% gone, we need someone who is a going to be happy fighting for a place but also able to play wide. He should also be English if possible and to me that sounds like just one guy - Theo Walcott. Desperately needs a change of workplace but still young enough to fulfil some of that potential. And what's the one thing that all Wenger products can do?? PASS THE FUCKING BALL.The main striker purchase would be someone short-term in my opinion. We'll have a new manager in the summer and committing to a £40 million+ striker when you're not sure if the new guy will want him is dangerous. Ergo I'd be inclined to go with the 'cheap and proven' route and maybe take a punt on Demba Ba and Darren Bent. Instant competition from proven goalscorers on the cheap and who you could flog in the summer for minimal loss (and maybe possible profit). Not exciting, not forward thinking but simply pragmatic choices to hopefully secure a top four spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Why would we buy a centre-back now when we have Terry, Ivanovic, Luis and Cahill? Unless we sell one (Luiz) or someone special becomes available, it's not an area we're going to strengthen. I honestly don't think we need to because most of our problems come from..... Because if azpi gets injured you only have 3 cb and one of them is getting older and more injury prone by the day while another one makes schoolboy mistakes every other weekend and thinks of himself as the second comng of baresi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Because if azpi gets injured you only have 3 cb and one of them is getting older and more injury prone by the day while another one makes schoolboy mistakes every other weekend and thinks of himself as the second comng of baresi.But you have to prioritise these things and think logically about the future. You're also forgetting about Ferreira who is a good deputy in case something does go wrong. You're talking about a six month period before a new manager comes in who might want something totally different from his personnel. I would be very, very surprised if our board went after a £15 million defender 'just in case' Azpi gets injured. Muzchap and TorontoChelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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