OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 What about Bender boys? Lars and Sven? They both seem very good players, young with offensive/defensive abilities.And there are reports Real offered Roma 25mio EUR for De Rossi. What the f Real needs so many CMs? Xabi, Modric, Essien, Khedira, Coentrao, Sahin (loan),...and now De RossiIf they want to get rid of Sahin, we should buy him next summer. Similar to Cesc, he is exactly what we need in midfield, shall we buy a new CM in summer. And he wouldnt be that expensive, since they would want to sell him to make room for others.Sahin would be a great addition but I wouldn't say hes like Cesc. Sahin's more a Xavi Alonso like player, dictates the play from deep where as Cesc is much much more offensive now a days and is more a goal scorer than a creator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Sahin would be a great addition but I wouldn't say hes like Cesc. Sahin's more a Xavi Alonso like player, dictates the play from deep where as Cesc is much much more offensive now a days and is more a goal scorer than a creator.Back in Arsenal days, Cesc was much more defensive. He was great as CM/DM or CAM. Sahin is also a player that can play in all three roles. Player like Sahin/Banega/Benat would also ease the pressure from Mata. Juan is now playing much deeper and is our deeplying playmaker as well attacking playmaker. In fact to be honest, I dont care who we sign as striker and CM, cheap or expensive, as long he will be able to get directly in our squad, play regulary and will achieve sucess at Chelsea, I will be super happy. But if we get some unexperienced kid or even worse; stick with Torres, I will be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Back in Arsenal days, Cesc was much more defensive. He was great as CM/DM or CAM. Sahin is also a player that can play in all three roles. Player like Sahin/Banega/Benat would also ease the pressure from Mata. Juan is now playing much deeper and is our deeplying playmaker as well attacking playmaker.In fact to be honest, I dont care who we sign as striker and CM, cheap or expensive, as long he will be able to get directly in our squad, play regulary and will achieve sucess at Chelsea, I will be super happy. But if we get some unexperienced kid or even worse; stick with Torres, I will be pissed.Oh I thought you meant Cesc now as in false 9 like Cesc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Etienne Capoe of Toulouse. 22yrs old, France international (recently starter) sticks to defending duties, and passes forward. Not a b2b player or deeplying playmaker, but a very good DM with ability to pass in any direction. Also, as player of Toulouse, he would cost max 15mio. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Etienne Capoe of Toulouse. 22yrs old, France international (recently starter) sticks to defending duties, and passes forward. Not a b2b player or deeplying playmaker, but a very good DM with ability to pass in any direction. Also, as player of Toulouse, he would cost max 15mio. Seen a bit of him, looks like he'd be a good buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Seen a bit of him, looks like he'd be a good buy.With all the problems we have in our game, we need striker and creative CM, but with Mikel gone in january, we would also need a good DM.I heard Cesc can do it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 With all the problems we have in our game, we need striker and creative CM, but with Mikel gone in january, we would also need a good DM.I heard Cesc can do it all If we signed Cesc imagine how pissed Piers Morgan and the rest of Arsenal fans would be.... haha BlueLyon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Is sahin on a season long loan at pool??? I really wanted dembele in the summer for our pivot, but actually now im not sure how it can work if we have a deep laying playmaker and mikel. At the moment i think ramires makes it very balanced in defence since none of our wingers track backs at all. So if we put in a deep laying playmaker instead of ramires, wouldnt it weaken our defence??? Im not sure, im not good with tactics at all.And does anyone here watch La liga? Any opinions on inigo martinez for CB? have seen a debate here that Hummels is just like luiz, i dont watch so much bundes liga or la liga so i wouldnt be the best judge, so if anyone can enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Is sahin on a season long loan at pool??? I really wanted dembele in the summer for our pivot, but actually now im not sure how it can work if we have a deep laying playmaker and mikel. At the moment i think ramires makes it very balanced in defence since none of our wingers track backs at all. So if we put in a deep laying playmaker instead of ramires, wouldnt it weaken our defence??? Im not sure, im not good with tactics at all.And does anyone here watch La liga? Any opinions on inigo martinez for CB? have seen a debate here that Hummels is just like luiz, i dont watch so much bundes liga or la liga so i wouldnt be the best judge, so if anyone can enlighten me.Yes he is. Well we would then need a CM that is creative, but is not going forward. Someone that can tackle too. In Borussia, Sahin was exactly that. He was b2b player that went forward when his team played offensive and defend when oposite side had the ball.The CM along his passing and creativity, should also tackle and run fast enough to follow the ball in midfield and mark opposite players. Yaya Toure type player would be great aswell.About Inigo, I heard he is good YOUNG Cb that is one of brightest prospects of spanish defenders. But there it is, he is young and I dont trust young defenders too much. Defending is all about experience and that comes with years of playing. Older defenders are much better tacklers, they stick to defending duties, dont make harsh unnecessary tackles and mark well. Besides, we have Kalas and Bruma if we want to play with talented young CBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Sahin would be a great addition but I wouldn't say hes like Cesc. Sahin's more a Xavi Alonso like player, dictates the play from deep where as Cesc is much much more offensive now a days and is more a goal scorer than a creator.It's Xabi Alonso, you ignorant cunt.There really aren't that many CMs in the works that are actually worth it.Marco HögerChristoph MortizRadja NaïnggolanIn tired and that's all my drained brain can muster up. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It's Xabi Alonso, you ignorant cunt.There really aren't that many CMs in the works that are actually worth it.Marco HögerChristoph MortizRadja NaïnggolanIn tired and that's all my drained brain can muster up.Nainggolan wouldnt be bad shot, if he is capable to play on top level, but no thanks to Hoger and Moritz. They are not even regular starters at Schalke, where Holtby and Neustader? (cant remember his name) are first choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 This:http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8227076/Roma-admit-they-will-always-listen-to-offers-for-prized-midfielder-Daniele-De-RossiIn other words, huge offer and Roma would probably alow De Rossi to go. I guess it was De Rossi in summer who didnt want to go to City, if those rumours about 50mio bid are true.Real is also keen to pay around 25mio pounds for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It's Xabi Alonso, you ignorant cunt.There really aren't that many CMs in the works that are actually worth it.Marco HögerChristoph MortizRadja NaïnggolanIn tired and that's all my drained brain can muster up.Damn you Spike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Dont know about de rossi,he is almost 30 and would cost like a fortune.In the end it all depends on the price if we can get him for 20-25m then he is most welcome otherwise i'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Nainggolan wouldnt be bad shot, if he is capable to play on top level, but no thanks to Hoger and Moritz. They are not even regular starters at Schalke, where Holtby and Neustader? (cant remember his name) are first choices.Holtby is more of a CAM isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Holtby is more of a CAM isn't he?Yeh, a CAM, capable of playing on either wing from what i've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Yeh, a CAM, capable of playing on either wing from what i've heard.Besides I heard he was an Evertonian. All blue and toffee like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 We do not need a CM.We have Romeu and Mikel as DM. Ramires, Josh and Lampard as CM (Oscar can play there either). We also have KDB and Marin, which I personally dont see space right now...Do you want another one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 We do not need a CM.We have Romeu and Mikel as DM. Ramires, Josh and Lampard as CM (Oscar can play there either). We also have KDB and Marin, which I personally dont see space right now...Do you want another one?It depends what Chelsea are going to do with Oscar. If they're going to move him into the centre, then we don't need another central midfielder. if they want to keep him up front, then we do. Lampard probably won't be here next year and Chelsea don't just hand jobs to players coming back from loan. I know you and I disagree about this, but I think Ramires is also a far from ideal fit in that spot. He just doesn't have the ability to control the tempo of the game and to distribute for his teammates. He's OK there as a stop-gap, but not long-term. We don't need a defensive midfielder though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It depends what Chelsea are going to do with Oscar. If they're going to move him into the centre, then we don't need another central midfielder. if they want to keep him up front, then we do. Lampard probably won't be here next year and Chelsea don't just hand jobs to players coming back from loan. I know you and I disagree about this, but I think Ramires is also a far from ideal fit in that spot. He just doesn't have the ability to control the tempo of the game and to distribute for his teammates. He's OK there as a stop-gap, but not long-term. We don't need a defensive midfielder though.We have already talked about the double pivot role, so I wont go there. I respect you and agree with some of your points...Let me try to understand, do you see our team like this: Cech, Iva, Terry, Cahil (Luiz), Cole - Oscar, Mikel - Moses, Mata, Hazard - Striker ?If it is not, how do you view it and what do you think we need?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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