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[Blues Forever 1,232]

Will gladly take Torres and Gaya from them.

[Dec 33]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

Will gladly take Torres and Gaya from them.

Azpi has made more key passes and crosses per 90 than Gaya. Lampard wants his Full Backs to provide an attacking threat and Gaya is not that.

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Will gladly take Torres and Gaya from them.

Torres would actually be a great replacement for Willian. 

[Special Juan 28,871]

The Premier League have announced that the summer transfer window will open on the 27th of July and end on the 5th of October. It will be open for 10 weeks.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

 

On 10/07/2020 at 6:48 AM, Vesper said:

Finding buyers – or even borrowers – capable of taking on their salaries is one issue, however, and there is an element of irony here should United end up qualifying for the Champions League, because each player has a 25 per cent increase clause written into his contract. Someone earning £75,000 per week this season would be on almost £100,000 per week during the next campaign if United secure a return to Europe’s elite club competition in the next three weeks.

I offer maths coaching. It seems whoever wrote this article could use my help. A 25% increase would take a weekly salary of £75,000, up to £100,000pw would it? Oh dear. I'm sure that I shouldn't allow it to, but seeing such poor numeracy causes me to doubt the writer's credibility.

Even without demonstrating that arithmetic isn't his strong suit, I find the claim of a 25% salary increase across the squad for champions League participation to be nonsensical. I could, perhaps, be persuaded that bonuses might rise 25%, but basic wages? Not a chance. From a financial point of view, it would make more sense for United to settle for the Europa League and avoid the wage increase. In fact, the club would have to go to any lengths necessary to avoid paying those increases, since doing so would cost them more than they would earn for winning the Champions League, never mind simply playing in it.

I couldn't take anything else in the article seriously after that.

[Vesper 31,181]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

 

I offer maths coaching. It seems whoever wrote this article could use my help. A 25% increase would take a weekly salary of £75,000, up to £100,000pw would it? Oh dear. I'm sure that I shouldn't allow it to, but seeing such poor numeracy causes me to doubt the writer's credibility.

Even without demonstrating that arithmetic isn't his strong suit, I find the claim of a 25% salary increase across the squad for champions League participation to be nonsensical. I could, perhaps, be persuaded that bonuses might rise 25%, but basic wages? Not a chance. From a financial point of view, it would make more sense for United to settle for the Europa League and avoid the wage increase. In fact, the club would have to go to any lengths necessary to avoid paying those increases, since doing so would cost them more than they would earn for winning the Champions League, never mind simply playing in it.

I couldn't take anything else in the article seriously after that.

 

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Someone earning £75,000 per week this season would be on almost £100,000 per week

to play devil's advocate

it would be £93,500 PW (the 25% increase of £75K PW)

I personally would use the verbiage 'approaching the £100K PW level' and not almost, although it is right there on the borderline of being 'almost'

maybe 'fairly close to £100k PW'

BUT

what I would have really done, lol

is to make the starting salary £80K PW

as then  a 25% increase is 100K on the nose

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

18 minutes ago, Vesper said:

what I would have really done, lol

is to make the starting salary £80K PW

as then  a 25% increase is 100K on the nose

I would bet good money that you'd have done exactly that!

 

20 minutes ago, Vesper said:

it would be £93,500 PW (the 25% increase of £75K PW)

I make it £93,750 but, either way, that goes beyond almost in my book. Using the fifty-week year which typically features in football salary conversion, that's well over £300,000pa. At this scale that's too wide a discrepancy for almost.

Based on ManU's last reported annual wage bill, a 25% increase would cost them an extra £98m. Liverpool earned less than £75m for winning last season's CL, while we collected just under £18.6m for our Europa League triumph. The difference between those amounts,  just more than £56.4m, cannot justify such huge wage bill inflation. Even when additional incomes are calculated, United would do better entering the Europa league and avoid having to pay that huge additional wage cost. All of this assumes United win the CL. A very optimistic assumption for them to make.

The argument in the article makes no sense to me.

[King Kante 1,643]

6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

 

I offer maths coaching. It seems whoever wrote this article could use my help. A 25% increase would take a weekly salary of £75,000, up to £100,000pw would it? Oh dear. I'm sure that I shouldn't allow it to, but seeing such poor numeracy causes me to doubt the writer's credibility.

Even without demonstrating that arithmetic isn't his strong suit, I find the claim of a 25% salary increase across the squad for champions League participation to be nonsensical. I could, perhaps, be persuaded that bonuses might rise 25%, but basic wages? Not a chance. From a financial point of view, it would make more sense for United to settle for the Europa League and avoid the wage increase. In fact, the club would have to go to any lengths necessary to avoid paying those increases, since doing so would cost them more than they would earn for winning the Champions League, never mind simply playing in it.

I couldn't take anything else in the article seriously after that.

Tbf, I think what Utd do is they offer a salary that is tied to CL football. This consequently means that if they are in the CL they player will get say £100k and if not they it will be reduced by 25% so they get £75k instead. The author is obviously a bit of an idiot and does not realise how to use percentages properly, but I was able to sort of get their logic. 

As for Utd's wage will, I do believe that operate at a (base) -25%(or another percentage) for lack of CL. This sort of policy can be seen when they were last out of the CL, where their wage bill took a dip and then bounced back again. 

[Vesper 31,181]

3 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I would bet good money that you'd have done exactly that!

 

I make it £93,750 but, either way, that goes beyond almost in my book. Using the fifty-week year which typically features in football salary conversion, that's well over £300,000pa. At this scale that's too wide a discrepancy for almost.

Based on ManU's last reported annual wage bill, a 25% increase would cost them an extra £98m. Liverpool earned less than £75m for winning last season's CL, while we collected just under £18.6m for our Europa League triumph. The difference between those amounts,  just more than £56.4m, cannot justify such huge wage bill inflation. Even when additional incomes are calculated, United would do better entering the Europa league and avoid having to pay that huge additional wage cost. All of this assumes United win the CL. A very optimistic assumption for them to make.

The argument in the article makes no sense to me.

damn typo

£93,750K PW is what I meant

sorry, my dyslexia is really bad atm

[Vesper 31,181]

On 15/07/2020 at 10:16 AM, Blues Forever said:

Will gladly take Torres and Gaya from them.

Gaya's  and Ferran Torres¨s release clause are 100m euros a piece

now I expect Valenica to give a bit

but I would be surprised if they let them both go for less than €160m or so combined

those two at Shitty are massive adds

Torres has potential superstar (I fucking love him, IF we miss out on Havertz he is in my top 5 to grab) written all over him, and Gaya is a top 5 on the planet LB

 my top 10 LB's 

(sorry Jordi Alba fanboys/fangirls, I fucking hate him, he is now  (he turns 32 this coming season and is clearly in decline) so overrated, he is just one of those players who everybody rates and Vesper hates, plus is he a dirty little cheating cunt)

Alphonso Davies    
David Alaba
Andrew Robertson    
Theo Hernández
José Gayà    
Ben Chilwell    
Alex Telles
Alex Sandro    
Lucas Digne
Robin Gosens  

[Jype 6,398]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Gaya's  and Ferran Torres¨s release clause are 100m euros a piece

now I expect Valenica to give a bit

but I would be surprised if they let them both go for less than €160m or so combined

those two at Shitty are massive adds

Torres has potential superstar (I fucking love him, IF we miss out on Havertz he is in my top 5 to grab) written all over him, and Gaya is a top 5 on the planet LB

For Torres they might not really have a choice but to accept less money because his contract is up in 2021. If their financial situation is as dire as rumored, they surely won't let one of their most valuable players leave on a free.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

24 minutes ago, Jype said:

For Torres they might not really have a choice but to accept less money because his contract is up in 2021. If their financial situation is as dire as rumored, they surely won't let one of their most valuable players leave on a free.

I don't think the financial situation is the main reason Valencia wants to sell everyone. From what i heard from their fans, several of their players are having a huge falling out with their president (Anil Murthy) and owner (Peter Lim).

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Special Juan 28,871]

Oshimen to Napoli is also very close.

[King Kante 1,643]

10 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Oshimen to Napoli is also very close.

KK must be on his way. No way do Napoli lay that sort of money out - especially when they will not have CL next season, barring a miracle - on a player without bringing money in. 

[whats happening 1,668]

kk in city probably.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

3 hours ago, King Kante said:

Tbf, I think what Utd do is they offer a salary that is tied to CL football. This consequently means that if they are in the CL they player will get say £100k and if not they it will be reduced by 25% so they get £75k instead. The author is obviously a bit of an idiot and does not realise how to use percentages properly, but I was able to sort of get their logic. 

As for Utd's wage will, I do believe that operate at a (base) -25%(or another percentage) for lack of CL. This sort of policy can be seen when they were last out of the CL, where their wage bill took a dip and then bounced back again. 

Ah, yes. This would make more sense. 25% less than the base level, which for Europa League participation, rather than 25% more than the base level for CL. Amounts to an enormous bonus for CL qualification. It makes the numbers add up for United and also rescues the maths of the reporter, which would then be correct if only he had described it the right way round. You've got this right I think. Thanks.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Gook luck to the lad. I think he's a good 'un.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

damn typo

£93,750K PW is what I meant

sorry, my dyslexia is really bad atm

Virtually all of my posts need to be edited so they are readable and say something close to what I meant them to. The first attempts are often just ludicrous.

[Atomiswave 6,120]

Does not matter if its KK or not, City will spend lots of money again this window you'll see....pep is the ultimate cheque book manager 101.