Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Vesper said: I feel so bad for RLC, right when he was finally making break-through his back goes out that's okay. Just a set back. I think he'll be getting plenty of minutes when he's back, and for seasons to come. He's Sarri's first midfielder off the bench. kc_blue and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: I feel so bad for RLC, right when he was finally making break-through his back goes out I was thinking, the other day. Our whole youth playing time thing has really boiled over this season (because of CHO), but really: when was the last time we had this many minutes out of our academy players? AC, Ampadu, CHO, RLC. I haven't looked in to it, but surely this is our best season in ages in regards to academy players and their play time, no? I know AC got a lot last season and takes up a lot of minutes on his own, but he was the only one Unionjack and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: hat's okay. Just a set back. I think he'll be getting plenty of minutes when he's back, and for seasons to come. He's Sarri's first midfielder off the bench. I might be full of it and this whole Bayern fiasco has skewed things but I honestly believe the progression we've seen with RLC and minutes this season is what was going to be coming for CHO, Bayern bid or no Bayern bid. Sideshow Luiz and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, kc_blue said: In that case I'm still taking it with a huge grain of salt. Still seems so strange that I'm not sure how seriously I take it. Think it's all about the money on the new contract. Guess we'll see. Are you suggesting that a player would use interest from another team to get themselves a better contract? In football? No....never..... Vesper and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, kc_blue said: I might be full of it and this whole Bayern fiasco has skewed things but I honestly believe the progression we've seen with RLC and minutes this season is what was going to be coming for CHO, Bayern bid or no Bayern bid. I agree. Sarri had his line up, and his A-Team and B-Team. He wanted the A-team together as much as possible because everyone needed to be on the same page. Then, it was Barkley (who had the entire training camp, and worked his ass off to his credit) getting integrated with Kovacic. RLC was a late returner, and he started to get more and more time. I think we all agree that CHO should have had more minutes from the start, but he's 18 and 4th in line behind a top 5 in the world player, a Brazilian international, and Pedro who took to the system like a fish to water. What's a new manager to do? We could see CHO was getting in to the plans more, and it wasn't just after the Bayern interest. He came on as a sub before Giroud a few weeks back, and may well have been in line for a start if he didn't hurt himself. kc_blue and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, kc_blue said: What's the source on the latest CHO news? Callum Hudson-Odoi will refuse to sign new Chelsea contract if club block Bayern Munich transfer https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/09/callum-hudson-odoi-will-refuse-to-sign-new-chelsea-contract-if-club-block-bayern-munich-transfer-8326769/ Chelsea star Callum Hudson-Odoi has warned the club they risk losing him on a free if they block his wish to join Bayern Munich. The 18-year-old is keen on moving to the Allianz Arena but Bayern have seen three bids rejected for the winger. Bayern’s latest bid of around £40million is believed to be close to Chelsea’s valuation of the teenager but the club are reluctant to let him go without a series of clauses, included a buy-back option. Hudson-Odoi started Chelsea’s 1-0 defeat to Tottenham in the Carabao Cup on Tuesday, in a move from Maurizio Sarri that was designed to persuade the winger to stay at Stamford Bridge. However, the midfielder has made up his mind on a move to Bayern and will not sign a new deal at Chelsea if they continue to reject the Bundesliga giants’ advances. That would leave Chelsea in a difficult situation given he has 18 months to run on his deal and they’re unlikely to command such a fee this summer when he’ll have a year left on his deal. Bayern Munich have made no secret of their desire to sign Hudson-Odoi, with sporting director Sporting director Hasan Salihamidzic confirming on Wednesday that the club are working on a deal. ‘What I can say: We like the player and take a great interest in signing him. We’ll see about the rest,’ he said. Chelsea star Antonio Rudiger has admitted speaking to the winger about life in Germany. The German says he can see the lure of joining Bayern but hopes the teenager stays with Chelsea. ‘He asked me about Germany,’ said Rudiger. ‘It was a general question from him. ‘He is still young, I can advise him, but at the end of the day he decides about his future. snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: Chelsea star Callum Hudson-Odoi has warned the club they risk losing him on a free if they block his wish to join Bayern Munich. Or risk simply selling him in the summer when it's more convenient for them to lose him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Thanks for supplying the article. No quotes, not buying it. CHO has advantages here but I don't think he's at a state yet in running down his contract and the state of his career that he holds all the cards and Chelsea have to do what he says. I guess we'll see. I have a hard time believing the board, even though they are largely responsible would allow him to leave in this window. Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Vesper said: Callum Hudson-Odoi will refuse to sign new Chelsea contract if club block Bayern Munich transfer https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/09/callum-hudson-odoi-will-refuse-to-sign-new-chelsea-contract-if-club-block-bayern-munich-transfer-8326769/ Chelsea star Callum Hudson-Odoi has warned the club they risk losing him on a free if they block his wish to join Bayern Munich. The 18-year-old is keen on moving to the Allianz Arena but Bayern have seen three bids rejected for the winger. Bayern’s latest bid of around £40million is believed to be close to Chelsea’s valuation of the teenager but the club are reluctant to let him go without a series of clauses, included a buy-back option. Hudson-Odoi started Chelsea’s 1-0 defeat to Tottenham in the Carabao Cup on Tuesday, in a move from Maurizio Sarri that was designed to persuade the winger to stay at Stamford Bridge. However, the midfielder has made up his mind on a move to Bayern and will not sign a new deal at Chelsea if they continue to reject the Bundesliga giants’ advances. That would leave Chelsea in a difficult situation given he has 18 months to run on his deal and they’re unlikely to command such a fee this summer when he’ll have a year left on his deal. Bayern Munich have made no secret of their desire to sign Hudson-Odoi, with sporting director Sporting director Hasan Salihamidzic confirming on Wednesday that the club are working on a deal. ‘What I can say: We like the player and take a great interest in signing him. We’ll see about the rest,’ he said. Chelsea star Antonio Rudiger has admitted speaking to the winger about life in Germany. The German says he can see the lure of joining Bayern but hopes the teenager stays with Chelsea. ‘He asked me about Germany,’ said Rudiger. ‘It was a general question from him. ‘He is still young, I can advise him, but at the end of the day he decides about his future. snip Metro are a terrible source, although if im the board I would let him go on a free. Play him the next year Im 100% sure bayern will drop interest and he will sign a new contract. Its a bad precedent letting our best players force moves. I low key blame Marina for this. We never used to have contract issues under Gourlay. robsblubot, kc_blue and Sideshow Luiz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, kc_blue said: Thanks for supplying the article. No quotes, not buying it. CHO has advantages here but I don't think he's at a state yet in running down his contract and the state of his career that he holds all the cards and Chelsea have to do what he says. I guess we'll see. I have a hard time believing the board, even though they are largely responsible would allow him to leave in this window. We need to hold on to him, heck force him into leaving on a free. We cant let our best players force our hand, on the other hand though Sarri fucked up by not at the very least starting him at least 3 Europa games plus league cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: We need to hold on to him, heck force him into leaving on a free. We cant let our best players force our hand, on the other hand though Sarri fucked up by not at the very least starting him at least 3 Europa games plus league cup I would continue to play him this season and reevaluate the situation in the summer. The way they've gone about it means I would not accept a bid from Bayern period. We really can't let him and them run all over us, it would set a bad precedent. Vybzkartel and Sideshow Luiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: We need to hold on to him, heck force him into leaving on a free. We cant let our best players force our hand, on the other hand though Sarri fucked up by not at the very least starting him at least 3 Europa games plus league cup I'm not entirely convinced that the Europa league matches would have done anything. I'm not sure that 4 matches is the difference between signing a long term deal, and making waves for another club. Sure, didn't help, but you've been at the club since 7. So 4 matches? I'm not convinced. kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: I'm not entirely convinced that the Europa league matches would have done anything. I'm not sure that 4 matches is the difference between signing a long term deal, and making waves for another club. Sure, didn't help, but you've been at the club since 7. So 4 matches? I'm not convinced. His being silly to be fair he was only 17. 2 weeks ago I have a feeling the agent is pushing for a move because they make more off the commission. There are legit reasons to leave Chelsea but it seems more of a case of agent trying to benefit more than the player pushing this. Sideshow Luiz and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: His being silly to be fair he was only 17. 2 weeks ago I have a feeling the agent is pushing for a move because they make more off the commission. There are legit reasons to leave Chelsea but it seems more of a case of agent trying to benefit more than the player pushing this. yeah i can see the agent telling him what to do too. he is at an age where it is still easy to be manipulated. There has to be found another compensation scheme so that they do not push players to switch clubs all the time. kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybzkartel 284 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: yeah i can see the agent telling him what to do too. he is at an age where it is still easy to be manipulated. There has to be found another compensation scheme so that they do not push players to switch clubs all the time. FIFA is looking into clipping the wings of agents, after Raiola made 40 million off the Pogba transfer. The prick was representing all 3 parties apparently. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vybzkartel said: FIFA is looking into clipping the wings of agents, after Raiola made 40 million off the Pogba transfer. The prick was representing all 3 parties apparently. LOL in any other business you'd go to jail for that clear conflict of interest Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Chelsea transfer news: Blues are hiding real striker targets - Pat Nevin https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1069927/Chelsea-transfer-news-Maurizio-Sarri-Krzysztof-Piatek-Gonzalo-Higuain So much so that our board don't even tho ! Vesper and Sideshow Luiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, mccg said: Chelsea transfer news: Blues are hiding real striker targets - Pat Nevin https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1069927/Chelsea-transfer-news-Maurizio-Sarri-Krzysztof-Piatek-Gonzalo-Higuain So much so that our board don't even tho ! Let's hope he is right. I would be over the moon with Jovic or Piątek, or Haller. Unionjack and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Vesper said: Let's hope he is right. I woukd be over the moon with Jovic or Piątek, or Haller. Yeah was just going to post this GMTA He doesn't suggest just WHO they MIGHT be tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,181 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Vybzkartel said: His being silly to be fair he was only 17. 2 weeks ago I have a feeling the agent is pushing for a move because they make more off the commission. There are legit reasons to leave Chelsea but it seems more of a case of agent trying to benefit more than the player pushing this. November 7, 2000. His DOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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