Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

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23 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Donnarumma is not very good with his feet and every single time I watch AC Milan,

Agreed on this 100% 

 

24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I hate De Gea, I think he is a twat, plus he is in a slump for months,

He is the best out there without a doubt ... not in the best of form but that bloke is purely determination. 

 

I still have my doubts on Kepa though but I have my fingers crossed. 

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1 hour ago, coolhead23 said:

Agreed on this 100% 

 

He is the best out there without a doubt ... not in the best of form but that bloke is purely determination. 

 

I still have my doubts on Kepa though but I have my fingers crossed. 

Real wanted him over De Gea and Courtois,that should tell you something.

Early on when we bought him, people were saying he was short, ffs. He is 189.25cm (laser-measured during physical) tall, ie. 6 feet, 2 and half inches. So no weakness there (other than he is not a 2 metre tall giant, BUT if you look at almost all really tall keepers, they are sometimes slow, sometimes awkward,and leave bigger holes between legs (hello Courtois).

He is same height as Oblak, basically the same as De Gea (quarter of an inch shorter), almost 2 inches taller than Jasper Cillessen, half an inch shorter than Alisson, taller than Ederson by a cm, an inch and a half shorter than Strakosha, an inch taller than ter Stegen,a quarter of an inch shorter than Meret

he is only an inch and half shorter than Manuel Neuer, lol,who everyone thinks is a BIG keeper

People freak out because he isn't as tall as Petr Čech (1.96m) or Courtois is, or Donnarumma (196cm), but Čech is horrid with feet, Donnarumma is only average (maybe sub average),and Courtois is oki, but not great

The only other 1.95m to 1.99m big keepers atm who are even in top 25 are Alphonse Areola (1.95m) and Wojciech Szczesny (1.96m and please! zero chance I take him over Kepa)

Jack Butland is 196cm, I would be losing my shit if we had bought him. Fraser Forster is 2.01m (same as my father) I do not want EITHER near our goal! LOLOL

Kepa is a great athlete, he can dunk a basketball with ease, so obviously has great vertical leap,which many tall keepers do not have

For comparison, 9 of the all time greatest GK's in history

Iker Casillas  1.85m

Oliver Kahn  1.88m

Gianluigi Buffon  1.91m

Lev Yashin  1.89m

Gordon Banks  1.85m

Neville Southall  1.85m

Dino Zoff    1.82m

Peter Shilton   1.83m

Sepp Maier  1.85m

 

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Real wanted him over De Gea and Courtois,that should tell you something.

Early on when we bought him, people were saying he was short, ffs. He is 189.25cm (laser-measured during physical) tall, ie. 6 feet, 2 and half inches. So no weakness there (other than he is not a 2 metre tall giant, BUT if you look at almost all really tall keepers, they are sometimes slow, sometimes awkward,and leave bigger holes between legs (hello Courtois).

He is same height as Oblak, basically the same as De Gea (quarter of an inch shorter), almost 2 inches taller than Jasper Cillessen, half an inch shorter than Alisson, taller than Ederson by a cm, an inch and a half shorter than Strakosha, an inch taller than ter Stegen,a quarter of an inch shorter than Meret

he is only an inch and half shorter than Manuel Neuer, lol,who everyone thinks is a BIG keeper

People freak out because he isn't as tall as Petr Čech (1.96m) or Courtois is, or Donnarumma (196cm), but Čech is horrid with feet, Donnarumma is only average (maybe sub average),and Courtois is oki, but not great

The only other 1.95m to 1.99m big keepers atm who are even in top 25 are Alphonse Areola (1.95m) and Wojciech Szczesny (1.96m and please! zero chance I take him over Kepa)

Jack Butland is 196cm, I would be losing my shit if we had bought him. Fraser Forster is 2.01m (same as my father) I do not want EITHER near our goal! LOLOL

Kepa is a great athlete, he can dunk a basketball with ease, so obviously has great vertical leap,which many tall keepers do not have

For comparison, 9 of the all time greatest GK's in history

Iker Casillas  1.85m

Oliver Kahn  1.88m

Gianluigi Buffon  1.91m

Lev Yashin  1.89m

Gordon Banks  1.85m

Neville Southall  1.85m

Dino Zoff    1.82m

Peter Shilton   1.83m

Sepp Maier  1.85

 

Madrid went for him because they couldnt get De Gea ... Prerez fucked up with it, they could have it on the platter with De Gea waiting for the deal to happen. 

I m not obsessed with the height thing in a goalie though it makes a big difference ... for me it is the positioning of the keeper and the timing of his leap is the difference (among the other attributes). Thats what makes De Gea special, its not a coincidence that he manages to have the most stretched saves among the others. Donnarumma is a prefect example of a tall keeper and yet falling short on his leap. 

Not seen much of Kepa in Spain but of what I have seen in Chelsea, not fully convinced. He mite be a good jumper but I felt he hesitates a little to go for the ball when away from the body. It could very well be a confidence stuff, hoping it will work out for him. Fingers crossed!

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15 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

Madrid went for him because they couldnt get De Gea ... Prerez fucked up with it, they could have it on the platter with De Gea waiting for the deal to happen. 

I m not obsessed with the height thing in a goalie though it makes a big difference ... for me it is the positioning of the keeper and the timing of his leap is the difference (among the other attributes). Thats what makes De Gea special, its not a coincidence that he manages to have the most stretched saves among the others. Donnarumma is a prefect example of a tall keeper and yet falling short on his leap. 

Not seen much of Kepa in Spain but of what I have seen in Chelsea, not fully convinced. He mite be a good jumper but I felt he hesitates a little to go for the ball when away from the body. It could very well be a confidence stuff, hoping it will work out for him. Fingers crossed!

Out if curiosity,  who would you have gone for?

Strakosha, obviously for me, was option number two (option 2 in retrospective), then,  pre window (as I knew Courtois was outta here), Alisson (who I also knew would be crazy expensive (oh the irony!) Next was Alex Meret, but the poison dwarf snagged him really early. Alphonse Areola next. Then Alban Lafont, 19yo but in fourth year of starting now and probabky will be France number one in 5 years, maybe less (Fiorentina STOLE him for only £7.5 from Toulouse) and finally, Mattia Perin (who Juve stole for only around £10.8m from Genoa, also early in the window).

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@Vesper Love the passion Mrs. Takes all my time to read your posts mate  Once I see one of your posts I know I'd better get a drink and a spliff cause I know I'll be here awhile checking out the players you're on about cause I lmow I'll never have heard of them

If I was Jim I'd be asking ya to write a few articles mate. Ohhhh You already are lol

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Out if curiosity,  who would you have gone for?

Strakosha, obviously for me, was option number two (option 2 in retrospective), then,  pre window (as I knew Courtois was outta here), Alisson (who I also knew would be crazy expensive (oh the irony!) Next was Alex Meret, but the poison dwarf snagged him really early. Alphonse Areola next. Then Alban Lafont, 19yo but in fourth year of starting now and probabky will be France number one in 5 years, maybe less (Fiorentina STOLE him for only £7.5 from Toulouse) and finally, Mattia Perin (who Juve stole for only around £10.8m from Genoa, also early in the window).

For now I couldnt find someone with the spark the next big thing in the u25... there are a few which I kept tab some time back but not sure if they are still on the top. 

Alisson was top of my list, near to having everything perfect... He could have been the perfect replacement for Courtois in all aspect. 

Strakosha - the one who i thought had that spark  ...  perfectly built for a keeper (big and strong) ... amazing reflexes, great agility for someone so big ... however the few games I checked him he parries the ball into dangerous place. 

Timo Horn (Wild card some year back) - Lot was riding on him. I liked what he brought to the table when he was 21 -22 but now I dont think he has manage to keep up

Kepa - I'm hoping he lives up to the expectation. I can be bias

 

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We need another scoring forward in January or a couple of them lined up in advance of the summer window.

Over-reliance on Hazard and a slow left back for scoring isn't enough for a club still aspiring to be a "big club" that can take on any European side and win the PL without having to watch other weakened Premier League clubs fail (as in 2017, 2016, 2015).

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Man City 'line up Kylian Mbappe as Raheem Sterling replacement'

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-kylian-mbappe-sterling-15219221

Manchester City are considering Paris Saint-Germain forward Kylian Mbappe as a potential replacement for Raheem Sterling if the Blues winger quits the Etihad.

That is according to The Sun, who claim City are willing to pay a world-record fee for the striker, who only moved to PSG for a permanent £160m figure this summer.

Pep Guardiola is said to be a huge admirer of Mbappe, and a move could be made possible by the fact that PSG are under investigation for alleged Financial Fair Play breaches after spending £200m on Neymar on top of the fee paid for Mbappe.

The transfer would also depend on Sterling's future being resolved.

The England international is yet to sign an extension to his current contract, which expires in 2020, and Real Madrid have been linked with him recently.

City are reluctant to let Sterling leave, but if he does exit that could pave the way for World Cup winner Mbappe to join.

Meanwhile, City are said to be among a group of Premier league clubs that sent scouts to watch Lazio's Sergej Milinkovic-Savic last week.

The Mirror report that City - along with Liverpool and Spurs - watched Milinkovic-Savic score in Lazio's 4-1 win over Genoa.

Manchester United have been heavily linked with the Serbian midfielder, but did not make a move during the summer transfer window.

Lazio are said to be confident the 23-year-old will sign a new contract, with his current deal running out in 2022.

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Kylian Mbappe to Man City: Real Madrid SWEAT as Guardiola eyes Sterling replacement

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1024799/Kylian-Mbappy-Manchester-City-Real-Madrid-Pep-Sterling-replacement

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On 9/25/2018 at 8:27 AM, Vesper said:

I will say they make a move for Matthijs de Ligt (highest potential of them all), but I honestly have no gut feeling for sure.
If they bring in those 4 main targets (CB is the only one I am not clear on, I pray it isn't de Ligt they end up with) I do not see how anyone can touch them.

De Ligt was solid against Bayern.

 

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Man City & Barcelona battle for Ajax pair De Jong & De Ligt

https://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/man-city-barcelona-battle-for-ajax-pair-de-jong-de-ligt/1fqf0tae7ai8o1hsp2anp2xper

Both clubs have been working to sign the Netherlands internationals and in recent weeks each has believed that the other has the upper hand
Barcelona and Manchester City have gone head-to-head in the race to sign Ajax prospect Frenkie De Jong, Goal understands.

The two clubs each believe that the other has an advantage when it comes to landing the 21-year-old, who is being chased by Europe's biggest sides.

And the situation is further complicated by a mutual interest in Ajax centre-back Matthijs De Ligt.

Barca spent the summer trying to open negotiations with Ajax for De Jong, withGoal having revealed that former technical secretary Robert Fernandez spoke with Ajax director of football Marc Overmars on numerous occasions , but the €30 million (£26.2m/$34.8m) fee on offer was well below the Dutch club's valuation.

De Jong has spoken of his desire to play with Lionel Messi at Camp Nou on several occasions, and sources at Manchester City had been of the belief that the Primera Division champions were in pole position.

But senior Barca sources now believe that it is City who have the upper hand thanks to a recent push by sporting director Txiki Begiristain, who has travelled to Amsterdam for talks on several occasions.

Barca are resigned to the fact that they would not be able to match City's financial muscle, although Manchester United's Paul Pogba does feature as an alternative midfield option. Paris Saint-Germain's Adrien Rabiot, whose contract is up next summer, is also under consideration.

There is a feeling within the Catalan club that City could even try to buy De Jong in January and loan him back to Ajax until the end of the season.

De Jong, for his part, insists he has no plans to leave the Amsterdam club : "For the moment I'm staying at Ajax, at least another year and maybe two or three more, I'm really enjoying it here," he told Elf Voetbal on Thursday.

Yet that public stance is not enough to put off his suitors.

City are chasing midfield reinforcements after missing out on top target Jorginho to Chelsea in the summer, and the Premier League champions are also drawing up their plans for next summer's window. A January move has not been ruled out; last season they moved to bring in a centre-back and a forward to aid their push for honours.

The versatile De Jong, who can play in several positions in defence and in midfield, is regarded as a special talent by virtually every leading European club and City do not want to miss their opportunity to sign him.

Ajax are hoping to take advantage of the situation to recoup as large a transfer fee as possible.

City have also been working on a deal for Wolves midfielder Ruben Neves , although the Midlands club have indicated that they will fight hard to keep the 21-year-old Portugal international, or at least hold out for as close to £100 million as possible.

It remains to be seen whether City are ready to buy just one midfielder - an effective replacement for Jorginho - or two. Lyon's Tanguy Ndombele is another player that City have been watching closely for several months.

 

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further confirmation of my previous Shitty post

Meanwhile we just sit on our hands and watch Eden's long goodbye (and will lose over £100m in valuation when he does leave in the summer, or even more if he leaves on a free in a little over a year and a half), offer contract extensions to ageing 30-somethings Luiz and Willian that will take them to 34/35 years of age, will probably lose Kovacic back to RM, are now supposedly once again chasing yet another Italian CB (Romagnoli) that will more than likely end in a giant stall/price gouge and partial window-wrecking, time-wasting failure as has almost every Serie A negotiation over the last 4 years, are also apparently going to offer an extension to an already too slow LB, Alonso, that will also take him well into his 30's, are failing to unload almost ANY of our large pile of deadwood, and, finally, are playing our young players so sparingly all but Ampadu may end up bailing out, CHO possibly on a free.

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Chelsea are prepared to back Maurizio Sarri's impressive start to the season by raiding the transfer market to sign a new centre forward in January, reports the Daily Mail.

The west London club are understood to be interested in Inter Milan's Mauro Icardi and Genoa's Krzysztof Piatek.

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CHELSEA have snapped up 16-year-old Finnish wonder-kid Lucas Bergstrom from Turin Palloseura.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7568940/chelsea-lucas-bergstrom-turin-palloseura/

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Man Utd news LIVE: Jose Mourinho could HIJACK £55m Chelsea transfer, Jadon Sancho latest

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1038530/Man-Utd-Transfer-News-Live-Updates-Jose-Mourinho-David-de-Gea-Premier-League-Latest

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Paris Saint-Germain are very interested in signing England starlet Jadon Sancho from Borussia Dortmund, Sky Sports News understands.

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1 hour ago, the wes said:

Paris Saint-Germain are very interested in signing England starlet Jadon Sancho from Borussia Dortmund, Sky Sports News understands.

To replace Neymar, who is Real bound (or maybe back to Barca)

Jesus Christ, they go from strength to strength. I am sure they go after Dybala or Icardi or both too with the Neymar quid. SMS is in the mix too, along with Neves and Frenkie de Jong. Maybe even take a stab at de Ligt at CB (they would sell Marquinhos or more likely Presnel Kimpembe plus Draxler and ageing Cavani). Talk about buying a CL!!!