Antonio8 736 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 14 hours ago, Unionjack said: Yeah I agree. And we could run him flat out for a couple of years no problem. Him Andras and Dave would work and give good cover for hoever is LWB. Whats he been ike lately tho? sorry i don't understand the last sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 17 hours ago, Antonio8 said: bonucci would improve a lot 38 minutes ago, Antonio8 said: sorry i don't understand the last sentence What has Bonucci been like lately? Ive not watched much football this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/25/2017 at 4:46 AM, Belgiannutt said: 2 wingers for the wingback positions. Yes that's not a typo, wingers. Not fullbacks, not wingbacks, wingers. We need players who have the ability to hurt the opposition in the wide areas. Who thrive on 1on1 situations. Understand your reasoning, but we need quality to be able to switch to 4 at the back. Can't do that with wingers or Alonso. I feel this 3 CB system is starting to hold us back in certain games where we need more bodies and movement up front. Playing 3 CBs and 2-3 CMs all the time, even against bus parking minnows, seems awfully counterproductive often times. It puts too much offensive responsiblity on only two or three players going up against 6-9 defenders. Then when we can't break through, those 3 CBs just start passing the ball among each other with all the space in the world because opposition is not interested in regaining the ball, they are happy to drop deep and mark the forwards out of the game so they can't receive the ball in dangerous positions. When the ball finally goes upfield, often the receiver doesn't have enough support and has no choice but to play back again and the purposeless side-to-side passing below half-way line begins all over. Anyway, this is why I would prefer our new LWB to be more of a LB than a LW. Somebody who is dangerous and quick going forward but also solid enough to play in a 4 defender system. We have a winger in Moses playing on one side already, and when we need to go 4 at the back we have a monster defender in Azpi to slot in there, while the more offensive minded full-back on the other side can bomb forward relentlessly. I really really want us to start using variations of 4-3-3 or even 4-4-2 at some point for us to become less predictable and more dangerous going forward when needed. How I miss Ash... kellzfresh, DYC., Amblève. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Unionjack said: What has Bonucci been like lately? Ive not watched much football this season. ...ah ok!! ( my english is bad i know ) he is living a difficult season, but with conte... no problem, chelsea would take a great player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Antonio8 said: ( my english is bad i know ) Mate = MY English is bad and I text like I talk I'll do some digging and check out what he's been upto this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRESCFC 13 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Liverpool is signing and Marina is sleeping . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 This thread stays kind of dead so we can let this gem fly - watch Gintama's episode 151 arc, which lasts a couple episodes. It will generally transfer (now we're on topic) laughs into your stomach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Liverpool is signing and Marina is sleeping .They've overpaid for a want-away player. Not exactly a masterstroke. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRESCFC 13 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, LAM09 said: 58 minutes ago, DRESCFC said: Liverpool is signing and Marina is sleeping . They've overpaid for a want-away player. Not exactly a masterstroke. Anyway , they are sign fast . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Anyway , they are sign fast .They signed Keita a year in advance. You're likely to get players that way if you pay whatever. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, Leif said: This thread stays kind of dead so we can let this gem fly - watch Gintama's episode 151 arc, which lasts a couple episodes. It will generally transfer (now we're on topic) laughs into your stomach. Any Anime that go past 26 episodes are usually bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Fonte hinted Ryan Bertand leaving Southampton aswell http://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/fonte-van-dijk-transfers-liverpool-14086731 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just praying for the transfers to be completed early, atleast bring one quality wing back and a winger. Fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 10 hours ago, manpe said: Understand your reasoning, but we need quality to be able to switch to 4 at the back. Can't do that with wingers or Alonso. I feel this 3 CB system is starting to hold us back in certain games where we need more bodies and movement up front. Playing 3 CBs and 2-3 CMs all the time, even against bus parking minnows, seems awfully counterproductive often times. It puts too much offensive responsiblity on only two or three players going up against 6-9 defenders. Then when we can't break through, those 3 CBs just start passing the ball among each other with all the space in the world because opposition is not interested in regaining the ball, they are happy to drop deep and mark the forwards out of the game so they can't receive the ball in dangerous positions. When the ball finally goes upfield, often the receiver doesn't have enough support and has no choice but to play back again and the purposeless side-to-side passing below half-way line begins all over. Anyway, this is why I would prefer our new LWB to be more of a LB than a LW. Somebody who is dangerous and quick going forward but also solid enough to play in a 4 defender system. We have a winger in Moses playing on one side already, and when we need to go 4 at the back we have a monster defender in Azpi to slot in there, while the more offensive minded full-back on the other side can bomb forward relentlessly. I really really want us to start using variations of 4-3-3 or even 4-4-2 at some point for us to become less predictable and more dangerous going forward when needed. How I miss Ash... Being able to switch to a back 4 would be nice but even if we switch to a 4 Conte isn't suddenly going to change into an ultra attacking manager. With a back four only 1 of the fullbacks will be pushing up while the other one will tuck in and form a back three again. I don't think a back four is going to help us that much going forward. The 3-5-2 i want to play has 2 wingers, 2 creative CM's, Morata and Hazard up top. That's 6 attacking players against 6-9 defenders. Honestly i think a back three can help and play a part in breaking down teams. We've seen that last season with Azpi or Cahill pushing forward into wide midfield and attract a midfielder towards them. I feel like last season we did that a lot while this season it looks like we're playing a lot more cautious. I agree that it's frustrating watching our back three pass the ball to eachother but normally you'd expect your outside cb's to ask questions of the defending team by pushing forward into wide midfield and not stopping until they draw out an opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Belgiannutt said: Being able to switch to a back 4 would be nice but even if we switch to a 4 Conte isn't suddenly going to change into an ultra attacking manager. With a back four only 1 of the fullbacks will be pushing up while the other one will tuck in and form a back three again. I don't think a back four is going to help us that much going forward. The 3-5-2 i want to play has 2 wingers, 2 creative CM's, Morata and Hazard up top. That's 6 attacking players against 6-9 defenders. Honestly i think a back three can help and play a part in breaking down teams. We've seen that last season with Azpi or Cahill pushing forward into wide midfield and attract a midfielder towards them. I feel like last season we did that a lot while this season it looks like we're playing a lot more cautious. I agree that it's frustrating watching our back three pass the ball to eachother but normally you'd expect your outside cb's to ask questions of the defending team by pushing forward into wide midfield and not stopping until they draw out an opponent. Ideally yes. It worked better last season because the formation was new in the league, reminiscent of how we obliterated the league introducing 4-3-3 in 2004. But most have figured it out by now, sooner or later it will become old news like 4-3-3. When you watch our games, it's clear that in some games we try to do what you described, but it doesn't work because teams know how we play and set up almost every game. We need variety.. or simply buy players that would make our 3CB system so strong that teams would struggle even when perfectly countered. Maybe we can do it with prolific wingers as WBs, who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 26/12/2017 at 11:02 AM, Despiadado.Maleante said: It's clear we need 1 LWB, experienced CF and attacking mid. Mahrez should be top of our list. If we have a list, Mahrez should not be top of it. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 If we have a list, Mahrez should not be top of it. LWB should be our main priority the wes and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy 439 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, LAM09 said: 2 hours ago, DDA said: If we have a list, Mahrez should not be top of it. LWB should be our main priority Make that a starter type not another stop gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Make that a starter type not another stop gap.I agree. We've been aiming for second string players for far too long. Sandro is the only player of that ilk linked with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Over priced as players will be hopefully this window be used wisley. Not wait and see potential targets go elsewhere or bring in random we don't need.. But given our past record of late no doubt be frustrating.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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