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I think you're wrong. We don't need a pure holding player. We can afford to have more attack minded player to sit ahead of the defenders, that's given more license to track back. What AVB has done in this system has made sure everyone tracks back. Like Drogba did yesterday when he followed Fellani (I think) all the way from his half to the one before. When Mikel came off, the pace and tempo of our game quickened, I don't think anyone can dispute this.

Mikel is important. He's crucial in the big games where defending is important. But vs a team like Everton where they gave a lot of opportunities to break, Mikel slowed it down too much for us to take advantage.

So basically you expect Mikel to play as a box to box mid and DMF at the same time without anyone to bail him out if he gets caught forward... No one has the combination of speed stamina and strength to play that role which is why no one in the world does. You're being asinine.

Do you know why Mikel was selected by AVB?? its very easy to see

i just went back and saw you were honestly comparing Xavi to Mikel when they don't play remotely the same role.. what sport are you watching?? Mikel is like biscuits would be if he was masculine.

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So basically you expect Mikel to play as a box to box mid and DMF at the same time without anyone to bail him out if he gets caught forward... No one has the combination of speed stamina and strength to play that role which is why no one in the world does. You're being asinine.

Do you know why Mikel was selected by AVB?? its very easy to see

i just went back and saw you were honestly comparing Xavi to Mikel when they don't play remotely the same role.. what sport are you watching?? Mikel is like biscuits would be if he was masculine.

If you looked properly, I only compared Xavi & Mikel because someone compared their stats. Which gave a false image of his role.

As for the box-to-box/dmf role. Look at the way we've played this season, when we haven't played Mikel. Where Miereles & Ramires have made up our midfield.. You clearly see a high temp as well as a good defensive unit. He's unneeded in games like these.

However I would justify his role against sides who do attack us. The park-the-bus teams like Everton, don't require a holding mid.

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If you looked properly, I only compared Xavi & Mikel because someone compared their stats. Which gave a false image of his role.

As for the box-to-box/dmf role. Look at the way we've played this season, when we haven't played Mikel. Where Miereles & Ramires have made up our midfield.. You clearly see a high temp as well as a good defensive unit. He's unneeded in games like these.

However I would justify his role against sides who do attack us. The park-the-bus teams like Everton, don't require a holding mid.

AVB is so dumb selecting Mikel over Meireles against Everton, a team who's only advantages are height strength and physicality.. and have a lot of threats from set pieces. Yes, he should have selected the shorter far less athletic man. How are you not a manager.

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AVB is so dumb selecting Mikel over Meireles against Everton, a team who's only advantages are height strength and physicality.. and have a lot of threats from set pieces. Yes, he should have selected the shorter far less athletic man. How are you not a manager.

I find it amusing you turn to sarcasm to prove your point, because it makes you look like a child tbh :lol:

As for your hidden point, Miereles is stronger than you take him for. Just like we thought Ramires wasn't as strong as he looks. I think he would've done an adequate job while keeping the pace of the game alive.. I appreciate you disagreeing, but don't be such a child about it. xD

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I find it amusing you turn to sarcasm to prove your point, because it makes you look like a child tbh :lol:

As for your hidden point, Miereles is stronger than you take him for. Just like we thought Ramires wasn't as strong as he looks. I think he would've done an adequate job while keeping the pace of the game alive.. I appreciate you disagreeing, but don't be such a child about it. xD

If he was the man to do the job he would've been selected. Ramires and Meireles ARE NOT TALL. They are shorter and lighter players. Meireles especially is probably the least strong or physical midfielder we have.

I've been making points and comments about football, you've been taking cute little personal jabs so you really shouldn't say anything about childishness.

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If he was the man to do the job he would've been selected. Ramires and Meireles ARE NOT TALL. They are shorter and lighter players. Meireles especially is probably the least strong or physical midfielder we have.

The game didn't come down to strength though, imo. Only Fellani was the one who perhaps caused a problem in the aspects of that, but I don't think he would've been a problem had Mikel not played.

You're missing my point though. I talk in terms of the pace of the game, where I feel Mikel is slow and his retention tactics aren't valuable in situations where the opposing teams give us gaps to exploit, esp on the counter. Defensively I think the whole team is set up to play without a DMF.

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The game didn't come down to strength though, imo. Only Fellani was the one who perhaps caused a problem in the aspects of that, but I don't think he would've been a problem had Mikel not played.

You're missing my point though. I talk in terms of the pace of the game, where I feel Mikel is slow and his retention tactics aren't valuable in situations where the opposing teams give us gaps to exploit, esp on the counter. Defensively I think the whole team is set up to play without a DMF.

With our poor defensive record so far, I think a DMF is actually needed... without it, we would be in even more trouble

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The game didn't come down to strength though, imo. Only Fellani was the one who perhaps caused a problem in the aspects of that, but I don't think he would've been a problem had Mikel not played.

You're missing my point though. I talk in terms of the pace of the game, where I feel Mikel is slow and his retention tactics aren't valuable in situations where the opposing teams give us gaps to exploit, esp on the counter. Defensively I think the whole team is set up to play without a DMF.

Retention tactics? He's originally an attacking midfielder, do you know what instruction is? Its something a manager gives players....

Do you know of any successful high level squad that plays 4-3-3 without a DM? Hell, how about any successful squad regardless of formation?

We've looked so impenetrable on set pieces so far this season though so I understand why you'd rather have a small light player in the mid instead of a big strong one.

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TBH, the game had its moments but was otherwise quite a dull affair.....

Positives were that we beat our bogey team after 6 years or so, we now know that no matter what, someone somewhere will score. One big change Solo Malouda for Team player mata .,,,,without malouda we are gold.(no disrespect)

Sturridge will become a legend,,,,very professional player,,,,he values every minute on the pitch as he has earnt his place in the starting 11....

Lampard and Mikel are both great players.

However, please dont play them both in the same team together. Change either of them, preferably Mikel....I say this is i noticed that lamps slows down his game while playing with mikel. Mikel is awesomeness but sometimes i feel he is like a computer program. If Essien can do the same job and still come ahead,score sometimes and make defense splitting balls, why cant mikel even show signs he is becoming better at any of them?

Ashley cole was solid... but the less i say about drogba the better. I watched heskey play before our match , and after our match i felt heskey played better than drogba.... however class is permanent,,,i just hope he is not unhappy or lacks motivation after becoming our second choice striker....

Kalou is being offered a new contract.

Kalou is being offered a new contract.

DROGBA WILL LEAVE SOON AND SO WILL ANELKA, THEN KALOU WILL BE OUR NO.2 STRIKER....

I hope lukaku comes good...he better!!

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