SeB 1,281 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Paul Sharner could have done that for us. Also, wasn't the point of having either Essien or Mikel playing in a holding role was to do exaxctly what you say Ballack was used for? Face it, he often gave us a slow and uncreative midfield (especialy if Mikel was in the hlding role).People say we should have kept him for another year. He would obviously have been (along with Lamprd, Essien, Malouda, and Drogba) one of Carlo's untouchables and we would of had a midfield of Essien, Lampard and Ballack. And with Essien and Lampard hving the seasons they had last year the midfield would have been stillwater and arse gravy of the worse kind, and we would not get a top four spot.You must be joking, Ballack had one of the greatest tactical understanding I have ever seen of a player, he was the only one player able to stabilize the midfield when we used to play in the diamond shape, his movements were absolutely brilliant to cover the full backs by example. Don't insult him by comparing him to this cuntDont you remember that every time he wasn't there in the double season, the team had a huge counter performance because nobody was able to play well on the right flank of the midfield ? Essien by example was aspirated by his willing to go to the axis and unbalanced then the team.Ballack was excellent at several roles, in front of the defence, beside Lampard or on the right of the midfield. I'm surprised to see how some people can't see how important he was in the double season.And of course he was also an excellent footballer, two footed midfielder with charisma and experience. He really is a true Chelsea Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I hear we also have a game to play, looking forward to observe whether we're capable of being in absolute control against European opposition or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Paul Sharner could have done that for us. Also, wasn't the point of having either Essien or Mikel playing in a holding role was to do exaxctly what you say Ballack was used for? Face it, he often gave us a slow and uncreative midfield (especialy if Mikel was in the hlding role).People say we should have kept him for another year. He would obviously have been (along with Lamprd, Essien, Malouda, and Drogba) one of Carlo's untouchables and we would of had a midfield of Essien, Lampard and Ballack. And with Essien and Lampard hving the seasons they had last year the midfield would have been stillwater and arse gravy of the worse kind, and we would not get a top four spot.I will leave you with your misguided opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 He is not a Chelsea Legend, i'm confused in why people are calling him this. He may be a legend of the game, but not for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 You must be joking, Ballack had one of the greatest tactical understanding I have ever seen of a player, he was the only one player able to stabilize the midfield when we used to play in the diamond shape, his movements were absolutely brilliant to cover the full backs by example. Don't insult him by comparing him to this cuntDont you remember that every time he wasn't there in the double season, the team had a huge counter performance because nobody was able to play well on the right flank of the midfield ? Essien by example was aspirated by his willing to go to the axis and unbalanced then the team.Ballack was excellent at several roles, in front of the defence, beside Lampard or on the right of the midfield. I'm surprised to see how some people can't see how important he was in the double season.And of course he was also an excellent footballer, two footed midfielder with charisma and experience. He really is a true Chelsea LegendThe reason we played woefully last season was not becuase Ballck's "awe-inspiring grace" was no longer with us. It was becuase we let many players go without replacing them, coupled with the fact that Lampard got a long term injuy and he came back performing shit and Essien was a shadow of his former self, plus Ramires was still learning the ins and outs of the PL. We got him when he was 30, past his peak and was too slow to be a central midfielder with us, he only was abit more useful when he was in the holding role (a place that also had Mikel and Esien that could do it).Apart from a few moments, he really didn't do a lot to achive legend status. Sure he had a great career before he joined us, but so did Petit but no one remembers him at his time at Chelsea. The only thing that he did for us was marketing, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall 315 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I'll be going to this one! Get to a game before I go back to uni! So we'd better fucking win!! :blue scalf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I would like to see Torres and David Luiz get some time.Cause if they are going to play against United in the weekend, then we have to see how well they are doing in this game.Ideally play them from the beginning, and take them out after 60 mins or so, that way they won't overexert themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I hear we also have a game to play, looking forward to observe whether we're capable of being in absolute control against European opposition or not.Yup.AVB's debut Champions League game.. Will be quite interesting to see how he handles it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Id Start with:-----------------Cech---------------------Bos------------Luiz--Terry--------------Cole-----------------Meireles--------------------------Ramirez------------Lampard--------Studge------Torres-----------MataI will take off Mata and Studge at 60 and Lampard at 70mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAdibi! 106 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Yh we need to start Luiz for this game so we can have them ready for the big match on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Id Start with:-----------------Cech---------------------Bos------------Luiz--Terry--------------Cole-----------------Meireles--------------------------Ramirez------------Lampard--------Studge------Torres-----------MataI will take off Mata and Studge at 60 and Lampard at 70mins.Ramires is suspended for this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 The reason we played woefully last season was not becuase Ballck's "awe-inspiring grace" was no longer with us. It was becuase we let many players go without replacing them, coupled with the fact that Lampard got a long term injuy and he came back performing shit and Essien was a shadow of his former self, plus Ramires was still learning the ins and outs of the PL. We got him when he was 30, past his peak and was too slow to be a central midfielder with us, he only was abit more useful when he was in the holding role (a place that also had Mikel and Esien that could do it).Apart from a few moments, he really didn't do a lot to achive legend status. Sure he had a great career before he joined us, but so did Petit but no one remembers him at his time at Chelsea. The only thing that he did for us was marketing, nothing more.But my point wasn't about last season, I just did hit the roof when you spoke about Scharner who is as much a cunt as a average/mediocre footballer that cannot be subject to compare Ballack with. For me he was instrumental and far much decisive than a lot of people think (like Deco) at Chelsea, we owe him some fantastic periods such as the end of the 2008 season and we can only admire his versatility which was capital and without which we would not have won the PL/FA Cup in 2010.You may be right when you say that he had already a reputation before and he was a "name" but this takes nothing away from what he did at Chelsea and the what he helped the club to achieve.To be frank it's very difficult to have an opinion about his departure... Some people may say that he was going to do the season over and would be out of form when not injured... Some other may say that his tactical strength and experience could not have penalize Chelsea... We can think that if Boateng the bitch (shame because he is a good footballer otherwise, I was impressed by him at Portsmouth) hasn't injured Bally, the negociations about a contract may not have stopped such suddently because of financial matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 He is not a Chelsea Legend, i'm confused in why people are calling him this. He may be a legend of the game, but not for us.Picture of the decade: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whinni09 37 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 -----------------Cech---------------------Bos----------Luiz---Terry---------Cole-----------------Romeu-------------------------Meireles----------Lampard---------Sturridge----Torres-----------Mata--I would like to see this formation on thuesday, don't ask me why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 -------------------------------------------------------------Cech-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Bos-----------------------------Luiz---------------------------------------Terry-------------------------------Cole-------------------------------------------------------------------Ballack--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Meireles--------------------------------------------------McEachran----------------------------------------Sturridge--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Mata----------------]-------------------------------------------------------------Torres------------------------------------------------------------------- :eyebrows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nachtblut 2 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 ------------------------------------------Cech-----------------------------------------Ivanovic-----------------Alex-----------Terry----------------Cole------------------------Ramires------------Meireles----------------Lampard-----------------Sturridge--------Torres----------Mata----------------Subs: Hilario / Romeu / Malouda / Anelka / McEachran / Bosingwa / Luiz50 Mins McEachran In - Lampard Out60 Mins Bosingwa In - Alex Out75 Mins Malouda In - Mata Out .Manager: Me :eyebrows:Chelsea 8 - Bayer Leverkusen 0Torres (6) - Sturridge (2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLOVEnian Blue 74 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 -----------------Cech---------------------Bos---------Luiz---Alex-------Bertrand-----------------Mikel-------------------------Meireles---------McEachran-------Sturridge----Torres-----------Mata--I would rest Terry, Cole and Lamps for United game and I would replace Mikel for Romeu, Mata for Malouda and Sturridge for Anelka/Kalou in 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I would rest Terry, Cole and Lamps for United game and I would replace Mikel for Romeu, Mata for Malouda and Sturridge for Anelka/Kalou in 2nd half.I would agree with that, except we don't have someone to replace Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 This is a CL game against the 4th best team in the bundesliga. This is infinitely going to be more difficult than Sunderland. It's a bit strange that a few fans (here and other boards) think it'll be an easy game. BL is likely the best team Chelsea will face so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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