The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah, judging by that press conference I'd be shocked if Mata is sold. Unless some silly money offer from PSG came in.Isn't that the point though? If you want to sell something, saying you don't want to sell it can increase it's price can't it? Barbara and Pizy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ow yes, it matters. didierforever, Jype and Azpinator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Fed up of this cyclical argument. If Mata isn't angry with Mourinho, who is he berating? Himself? Not likely. How can you tell though? Do you know him to be able to tell that?All we are talking about here is just 'speculation' if you like and there is no concrete evidence to suggest he did this or did that. So, I don't get why some have assessed the situation, treated it as a fact and then passed judgment on him like he has murdered someone. didierforever and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I put those graphs and stats into context from actually watching the match. No reason for you to get all snippy. Yes he completed his passes and yes he made some tackles but not all passes and tackles are equal. The play slowed down when it got to him a number of times and he doesn't press the ball as well as other players.Enjoy your pint. Well that's not what my post was about, so don't be ignorant and just quote 4 words of it without even caring to read the rest of it or the article for that matter.An Irishman enjoy a pint of Guinness? You're not that ignorant are you Tom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We can't sell mata. One injury and he can find himself a constant starter. The season is still long and as debruyne is leaving then mata must stay for our teams sake. The Chels and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Isn't that the point though? If you want to sell something, saying you don't want to sell it can increase it's price can't it? Yes, I suppose so. hahaha Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well that's not what my post was about, so don't be ignorant and just quote 4 words of it without even caring to read the rest of it or the article for that matter.An Irishman enjoy a pint of Guinness? You're not that ignorant are you Tom? I did read it, and I read the original source when someone first posted it. I just thought it useful to put some of my own views from actually watching the match into it. I have severe reservations about whether or not Mata has the physical capabilities to play in this system. Oh and enjoy your pint Mick. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Oh and enjoy your pint Mick. Wrong Tom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We can't sell mata. One injury and he can find himself a constant starter. The season is still long and as debruyne is leaving then mata must stay for our teams sake.Willian would get the role over Mata..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Willian would get the role over Mata.....willian is already in the 3 right now!!! what is oscar gets injured? do u want to sell mata too when we are already selling kdb... kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Funny thing I keep reading is people saying he is too good for the bench, yet their are a ton of examples of better players coming off the bench in Europe....Gotze, Martinez, Robben, ThiagoRooney came off the bench last seasonDzeko.Isco, baleSanchez/pedro, cesc.I can understand the whole idea of raising funds for another player to be bought, but to be too good for the bench, I dont.. Overall, I didnt take anything negatively from his behavior the other day. However, with the current manager, Mata will continue being marginalized moving forward (however, most players do in good teams)... Mceachran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 willian is already in the 3 right now!!! what is oscar gets injured? do u want to sell mata too when we are already selling kdb...Willian would play CAM, with eden and Schurrle on the wings... If anything, Ive seen lampard play more in the Cam role this season than Mata... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 willian is already in the 3 right now!!! what is oscar gets injured? do u want to sell mata too when we are already selling kdb...According to a belgian newspaper its mata or kdb, only 1can leave, thats why wolfsburg is in a hurry to get the kdb deal done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Willian would play CAM, with eden and Schurrle on the wings... If anything, Ive seen lampard play more in the Cam role this season than Mata...we have 3 DMs in lamps, mikel and rambo. 2 of them are inconsistent (mikel, lamps). one of them SHOULD not be playing more than 1 match in a week,if we sell mata right now (with kdb surely leaving), we will be having 4 AMs down from 6 and will be losing our most potent weapon - strength in depth. how many PL matches have our AMs influenced after coming from the bench. also after getting an injury to even one of those 4 AMs we will be having 3 AMs with no one to influence the game off the bench. so please think what is best for the team. how is selling mata going to better chelsea. can u give me a couple of pointers?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Fed up of this cyclical argument. If Mata isn't angry with Mourinho, who is he berating? Himself? Not likely. How can you tell though? Do you know him to be able to tell that? All we are talking about here is just 'speculation' if you like and there is no concrete evidence to suggest he did this or did that. So, I don't get why some have assessed the situation, treated it as a fact and then passed judgment on him like he has murdered someone. This thread .... Awesome ! mediator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 According to a belgian newspaper its mata or kdb, only 1can leave, thats why wolfsburg is in a hurry to get the kdb deal donethen tell me how selling mata but keeping kdb makes us a better team/squad!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 then tell me how selling mata but keeping kdb makes us a better team/squad!!!I prefer mata so i dunno didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 bababoom and Sidzeret 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The future of Juan Mata was again brought up, as it was after the game against Southampton on Wednesday, with the manager's opinion unchanged.'I keep saying I want him to stay. There have been no offers. Today he trained in a fantastic way so I think he focused more on [when I said] "I don't want him to leave" and not on when I said "the door is always open".'He's moved on. He was happy with the victory at Southampton so today he trained in a fantastic way. There are no problems.' Barbara, kellzfresh and Christo191 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 we have 3 DMs in lamps, mikel and rambo. 2 of them are inconsistent (mikel, lamps). one of them SHOULD not be playing more than 1 match in a week,if we sell mata right now (with kdb surely leaving), we will be having 4 AMs down from 6 and will be losing our most potent weapon - strength in depth. how many PL matches have our AMs influenced after coming from the bench. also after getting an injury to even one of those 4 AMs we will be having 3 AMs with no one to influence the game off the bench. so please think what is best for the team. how is selling mata going to better chelsea. can u give me a couple of pointers??Both Eto and Torres can play on the wings 4-3-3. In addition, Rambo can play on the wings.....Juan Mata under Jose in the wings is not Juan Mata under Rafa behind Torres.. Doesnt matter what you think about who should be playing more than 1 match a week cause Jose still plays Lampard/Rambo every match possible... Raising funds in a potentially Mata sale would be beneficial for Jose so the press doesnt bother him every week (similar to KDB) and their less stress within the club..In addition, he can reinvest the funds and purchase a CM, LB and a CB. If Oscar gets injured, Willian is the next one in line, not Mata. Right now, AM is the position that is the least of our worries, if Mourinho is here long term, why would we keep Mata when we can sell him for high profits (potentially) and obtain players that would flourish under Mourinho...makes no sense, when we have other positions that need to be addressed. Symbol123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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