KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 There's no need to 'hope''. Any logical person can see the facts and statistics point to the fact Mata WILL become the better player very soon, if he isn't already. Mata's first year in the EPL was far better than Silva's. He has been playing in a weaker side and with better players around him he will surpass Silva. He is also younger. Imagine how good he will be at Silva's age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 There's no need to 'hope''. Any logical person can see the facts and statistics point to the fact Mata WILL become the better player very soon, if he isn't already. Mata's first year in the EPL was far better than Silva's. He has been playing in a weaker side and with better players around him he will surpass Silva. He is also younger. Imagine how good he will be at Silva's age.Three years ago, Essien was expected to be the best midfielder in the world for quite some time. The hope part was that he stays away from injury, because if he can I am confident that he will surpass Silva (which is why I said "expect/hope" ) Blue Armour and BlueSanti 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 For how excited i am about Hazard playing for Chelsea, and how much I would love to see Hulk here, the club should still look to build the team and attack around Mata next season to move forward. We don't know how long it will take for new players to adapt at the club. I don't envisage 'second season syndrome' for Mata, I actually expect him to get better. I try not to let youtube videos influence my opinion of a player but I know just how good Mata is so enjoy this one I found and remember this was his first season in the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Peace. 4,352 Posted July 7, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted July 7, 2012 We should try and be cautious to not get carried away and to not hype him too much highly. It could backflash the player if he doesn't perform at the level of the high expectations we have. Yes he has been elected the best player of the season (Into my eyes, it should have been David Luiz, but it isn't the matter of the thread) and put very good performances, but I'm under the feeling we see him bigger than he was. He was quite inconsistent during the season, he had many more or less average games, and he tended to disapear during some others (I won't argue on the reasons of his disappearances). Plus you have to remind yourself he was our only creative force, which means he was inevitably the one who would make the most of the assists and the one to be the more often into the public eye. And to continue with the comparison to David Silva (since we seem to be in the need to compare the two players), there was a lot more players around David Silva to score goals, or to make assists, while Mata was the "only one".Don't get me wrong, I am not taking anything away from him. He made an excellent season, and was very important to us. But I think it's bold to say, after only one season, that he is better than Silva or than X (in my opinion Silva is at the moment ahead of him). And we should be more down to earth than this. Justin_3d, SeB, bababoom and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Mata does more than Silva. In Silva's 2 seasons with Man City, he only made a real impact from the start of the season just past but didn't do a lot after the turn of the year. I think Mata is actually quicker than Silva too. KonohasOrangeFlash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzi 233 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 http://youtu.be/vE_bdgAeWHgHas this been posted yet? royg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Mata is just simply amazing. I enjoy watching him play, glad we signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 This season Mata scored on his 1st game in the Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup and Euro2012. KonohasOrangeFlash and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 http://www.eplindex.com/16315/david-silva-vs-juan-mata-opta-stats-11-12.htmlA very good stat comparison between Mata and Silva. Superblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 A Mata special for some Spanish magazine francozola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Rumours that Chelsea will give Mata time off after the Olympics and as a result he won't likely be available until September. I read somewhere he has played 2008/09 season wiv valencia, confederations cup with spain, 2009/10 season with valencia, world cup with spain, 2010/11 season with valencia, U21 championships with spain, 2011/12 season with chelsea, euros with spain and now olympics. It means he hasn't had a proper summer break since 2008!The most important thing is for Mata to continue fresh and injury free because a firing Mata will give Hazard the chance to adapt without as much pressure on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 http://www.eplindex.com/16315/david-silva-vs-juan-mata-opta-stats-11-12.htmlA very good stat comparison between Mata and Silva.Backs up my opinion which is that silva is currently a slightly better player but mata had a stronger first season in the prem than silva. Hopefully mata will go from strength to strength next season, especially with more technically sound players around him and put this argument to bed before it becomes the spanish gerrard/lampard debate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Silva is more calm on the ball, plays one dimensional football and can tackle bit better, while Mata is younger and will get that calm passing and decision making, but he is already better dribbler and has ways to outrun opponent. I think they could be compared like Xavi and Iniesta. Both are unique and needed, but Silva suits Xavi more since all he does is more certain, while Mata (Iniesta) has faster play and more unpredictable. In the end, Silva is experienced player and has probably more stamina than Mata right now, maybe more balance, but Mata is two years younger and by age 26, he will get all what Silva has. But I agree, we shouldnt overhype him too much, he had fantastic season and I think next will be statisticaly less impressive, but his play will evolve into more responsible, more balanced. Having Hazard, Marin, (Oscar?), (Hulk?) along him, his play will be splittedbetween them and he will have more time to focus on game-dicatating. Player that just hassomething more inside than Hazard or Hulk. The spark, that truly reminds on that one of Zola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Silva at the moment is the best hands down.But Mata has the potential to become better because of his mentality.Silva mentality, is like...meh whatever.Mata is more drive, passion, and heart. This usually helps takes a player to the next lvl if he has the skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 BTW Mata in a couple of years I will put him in the Lampard type. Those players that become big when the going gets tough.For years we had our generals in Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Ballack, Cech and such.Now we are building a new backbone of Mata, David Luiz, Ramires, Cahill and such.So after a great 7 to 8 years with the old guard, a new one is emerging and like Drogba said after winning the CL that he wanted to show the new players what it is to be a Chelsea player. Never give in, and fight till the end. That before him other players showed him the way like Terry, and now they where doing the same with these new younger players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 What was the only problem (or advantage on other side) with our old guard was that they were brought not realy young Anelka, Ballack, Malouda, Drogba all arrived when they were 26yrs plus. Lampard came at young age, or Cech, but there are many players, we couldnt use for more years, like Beletti, Deco, Sheva,...This having Hazard, Marin, Oscar, Luiz,...is new generation that is created with different intentions. Sure ending point is winning trophies, but old guard, Mourinho team or whatever is called was brought together to win PL and after it, CL. It didnt matter how, just win it in shortest possible time. This generation is made of great talents; it will be required longer time for them to win anything. The point is not win CL anymore, but play nice football, one that soon everyone will love. And with such style, trophies will arrive in few years. When Mata will be 26, we already might be one of teams with beautifulest and dominating football, while Drogba just arrived at age 26. Imagine how much could then Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Luiz, Cahill,...achieve. Certainly project worth a lot of attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 What was the only problem (or advantage on other side) with our old guard was that they were brought not realy young Anelka, Ballack, Malouda, Drogba all arrived when they were 26yrs plus. Lampard came at young age, or Cech, but there are many players, we couldnt use for more years, like Beletti, Deco, Sheva,...This having Hazard, Marin, Oscar, Luiz,...is new generation that is created with different intentions. Sure ending point is winning trophies, but old guard, Mourinho team or whatever is called was brought together to win PL and after it, CL. It didnt matter how, just win it in shortest possible time. This generation is made of great talents; it will be required longer time for them to win anything. The point is not win CL anymore, but play nice football, one that soon everyone will love. And with such style, trophies will arrive in few years. When Mata will be 26, we already might be one of teams with beautifulest and dominating football, while Drogba just arrived at age 26. Imagine how much could then Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Luiz, Cahill,...achieve. Certainly project worth a lot of attention.Which is why I think Sturridge and Lukaku are more important then Torres. Torres comes too late.By the time it is the hour for Torres to leave, these two should be ready to step up.I don't know why, but I always envision a Sturridge - Lukaku partnership like the old partnership of Hasselbaink - Gudjohnsen Blue Armour and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Which is why I think Sturridge and Lukaku are more important then Torres. Torres comes too late.By the time it is the hour for Torres to leave, these two should be ready to step up.I don't know why, but I always envision a Sturridge - Lukaku partnership like the old partnership of Hasselbaink - GudjohnsenHaha,,same here. More so because I don't think Sturridge will ever succeed here as a lone striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Which is why I think Sturridge and Lukaku are more important then Torres. Torres comes too late.By the time it is the hour for Torres to leave, these two should be ready to step up.I don't know why, but I always envision a Sturridge - Lukaku partnership like the old partnership of Hasselbaink - GudjohnsenAND CAN I GET AN AMEN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 No signing can overshadow what Mata did for us last season.I am really glad we have and hope he stays here forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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