The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I hope it's a very long time before he plays in the CL again! And I hope he doesn't even play 1 second at the WC! What a scumbag! He is a coward who has no heart and fight in him! Sulked like a baby after getting subbed against Southampton, he had enough chances to show Jose he should be playing every week and failed! But getting almost £40 million for a bench warmer who is a coward and has been awful all season is actually a good deal!Well said, let's not be fools. He's has chosen them over us. Finally someone saying it as it is Pacquiao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's not about that, god people are clueless. There has been many players from many different clubs that if you REALLY care about the club and the fans. You don't put your own personal achievement ahead of the club . When Jose was asked about his 100 wins, he said it more important to him that we got the 3 points.So many players would fight for their place, if he 'loved' Chelsea. I mean one of the others could get injured and he could have shined but he didn't want to fight for his place. That's fine, enjoy drowning with Utd.There was no way Mata was in Jose's future plans, that was clear, so why should he fight to be a bit part player? I don't understand why Mata is being made into the villain here. You do realise that Jose also just could've said "no, you're not going" just like he did with Ba right? Mata has the chance to play regular football again, we receive a substantial fee for him. It's not ideal that he's going to United but I can understand why the club accepted the bid and why Juan doesn't really want to stay. It would be very different if Juan was one of our most influential players this season but he's been a bench warmer. communicate and 11Drogba 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 what a bandwagoner...It's not a bandwagon. If it was mikel or Essien who sulked like that after being subbed they would be slaughtered. And it would be more understandable if it was mikel because he's nigerias most important player while mata is a bench warmer for Spain. Mata didn't want to fight. Pacquiao and Polo7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 24, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's not a bandwagon. If it was mikel or Essien who sulked like that after being subbed they would be slaughtered. And it would be more understandable if it was mikel because he's nigerias most important player while mata is a bench warmer for Spain. Mata didn't want to fight.Uhh, he did get slaughtered. Mata didn't want to fight to be nothing more than a bench warmer, yeah. It was clear Mourinho already made his mind up about Mata. He was barely played in his proper position, bloody hell. The Mak, BlueSunshine, couris and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Special Juan 28,730 Posted January 24, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 24, 2014 I have massive respect for the club with all this, we haven't stood in his way and I am sure if this is the case Mata will be fully appreciative of the club too.We get a real heavy amount and he gets to be happy, so why can't we? â•«rue Blue, daBlackMamba7, The only place to be and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's not a bandwagon. If it was mikel or Essien who sulked like that after being subbed they would be slaughtered. And it would be more understandable if it was mikel because he's nigerias most important player while mata is a bench warmer for Spain.Mata didn't want to fight.yeah right and you now that from what? day to day training sessions?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Uhh, he did get slaughtered. Mata didn't want to fight to be nothing more than a bench warmer, yeah. It was clear Mourinho already made his mind up about Mata. He was barely played in his proper position, bloody hell.There was no slaughter on here. There were a few people questioning it, and dozens or so mata minions saying: "everyone would do it" like it was no biggie. If he didn't want to fight to get off the bench then he is weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's not about that, god people are clueless. There has been many players from many different clubs that if you REALLY care about the club and the fans. You don't put your own personal achievement ahead of the club . When Jose was asked about his 100 wins, he said it more important to him that we got the 3 points.Yeah, sure. That's how it works in today's football. Why should a Spanish guy who's been here for what, 2,5 years put any club ahead of his own career? It's not that Chelsea bought him out of pity and he owes anyone anything. He was bought because he was good. And he repaid that trust with a CL and EL title. Why should he stay and fight for a place when he doesn't fit in the current system? If Abramovic tells Jose tomorrow there's no more money and Hazard, Oscar etc have to be sold, you tell me how long he'll stay. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Not sure whether to wish him well or hope he fails miserably at Manchester?I wish he fails miserably at united then gets sold abroad in the summer and does very well there I wonder if there's a card for that.. Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 yeah right and you now that from what? day to day training sessions?...I know that from the shit they have been getting recently while being constant professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mata could have fought the entire US army with a folk he still wouldn't have a chance under Mourinho. Just isn't his type of player most people knew it from the start. He'll do very well at United i'm positive. Fernando and AswinR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 There was no slaughter on here. There were a few people questioning it, and dozens or so mata minions saying: "everyone would do it" like it was no biggie. If he didn't want to fight to get off the bench then he is weak.Go read through the thread again and you'll find people calling him spoilt, a child, pathetic, that he's undermining Mou etc. It wasn't about him not fighting, he clearly wasn't fancied by Mou as a number 10. Whenever he did play it was 90% out on the flanks where he is less influential. You'd have players like Oscar or Hazard who we're under performing but they'd still be starting in the following game. Mata has a sub par performance and he's benched for 3/4 games. You seriously can't say that a player as good as Mata is happy with just being a squad player when he can be more elsewhere. Clevemayer and 11Drogba 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yeah, sure. That's how it works in today's football. Why should a Spanish guy who's been here for what, 2,5 years put any club ahead of his own career? It's not that Chelsea bought him out of pity and he owes anyone anything. He was bought because he was good. And he repaid that trust with a CL and EL title. Why should he stay and fight for a place when he doesn't fit in the current system? If Abramovic tells Jose tomorrow there's no more money and Hazard, Oscar etc have to be sold, you tell me how long he'll stay. ;-)What does him being Spanish have anything to do with it, if you love the club you do, regardless of where you are from???Nacho Novo Spanish player loves Glasgow Rangers as if he was born in Govan. He has tattoos and since stopped playing goes to all our games.What a silly point to make,Mata doesn't want to work hard and get picked he wants to be 'the star'. He hadn't contributed when he was playing yet he threw a childish tantrum on live tv. He needs to grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 24, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 24, 2014 Go read through the thread again and you'll find people calling him spoilt, a child, pathetic, that he's undermining Mou etc. It wasn't about him not fighting, he clearly wasn't fancied by Mou as a number 10. Whenever he did play it was 90% out on the flanks where he is less influential. You'd have players like Oscar or Hazard who we're under performing but they'd still be starting in the following game. Mata has a sub par performance and he's benched for 3/4 games. You seriously can't say that a player as good as Mata is happy with just being a squad player when he can be more elsewhere.There isn't a single player in our senior squad who couldn't be more elsewhere than a squad player here. Our two time player of the year should show more fight than what he did. It isn't even about being fancied. Azpilicueta wasn't fancied at first and fought his way into our squad Barbara, Pacquiao, The_Flash and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 What does him being Spanish have anything to do with it, if you love the club you do, regardless of where you are from???If you've been here for only two years, won everything you could except a PL title and then get benched for no apparent reason, why would you still love the club? It would have been different for him if it was his tenth year or so, but I don't see why you can't understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 There was no way Mata was in Jose's future plans, that was clear, so why should he fight to be a bit part player? I don't understand why Mata is being made into the villain here. You do realise that Jose also just could've said "no, you're not going" just like he did with Ba right? Mata has the chance to play regular football again, we receive a substantial fee for him. It's not ideal that he's going to United but I can understand why the club accepted the bid and why Juan doesn't really want to stay. It would be very different if Juan was one of our most influential players this season but he's been a bench warmer.When Mata wants to go, why should we turn down almost £40m.If I was Mata I would have looked at their last 'big' signing Fellani he is doing a great job of warming the bench at Utd. Pacquiao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 If you've been here for only two years, won everything you could except a PL title and then get benched for no apparent reason, why would you still love the club? It would have been different for him if it was his tenth year or so, but I don't see why you can't understand that.It is hard for all of us, I ****** loved Mata but he has picked the easy option, he has jumped ship and chose them over is, if you can't see that and accept and be a little annoyed at him. I feel sorry for youThere isn't a single player in our senior squad who couldn't be more elsewhere than a squad player here. Our two time player of the year should show more fight than what he did. It isn't even about being fancied. Azpilicueta wasn't fancied at first and fought his way into our squadEXACTLY!!!!!The same with Luiz it was obvious at the start of season, Jose didn't like him but he has fought and players well and he's playing all the time now.Mata wasn't up for the fight. It's a shame but I care about Chelsea and not if poor Mata wasn't being made the star in each game. Plenty of people have sat for far longer on the bench than Mata and done so with much better grace and dignity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 What does him being Spanish have anything to do with it, if you love the club you do, regardless of where you are from???Nacho Novo Spanish player loves Glasgow Rangers as if he was born in Govan. He has tattoos and since stopped playing goes to all our games.What a silly point to make,Mata doesn't want to work hard and get picked he wants to be 'the star'. He hadn't contributed when he was playing yet he threw a childish tantrum on live tv. He needs to grow up.your last sentence ist just pure bullshit. mata is by no means a Diva player, who only wants to be the star and gets carried by others. "he needs to grow up" ? ? wtf? he is probably one of the most mature players in our squad. arent you the one always supporting Torres and saying how great he is? lmao and now shitting on Mata.and the fact where you from has something to do with how you love a club. homegrown players, who go through all the academys etc in the club are more affiliated to it than foreigners, because they grew up with the club, were fans of it etc. mata has played 2,5 seasons. he cant have the same bond as someone who has been playing here for 10 years or who is english and affiliated to our club. its the same for example with lewandowski and Dortmund etc.Do you think Hazard is playing here, because he loves the club?! he is playing here, because we offered huge amount of money (he is to be rumoured ore most paid player) and because we won the CL. thats it. not because he loves the club. thats how football works. 99% of playerse are playing for the money. and its nothing bad about it. its their job.and comparing him to Azpis situation.... :clown: AswinR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Wow, some people are seriously retarded. In 5 minutes time they managed to completely switch opinion. couris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 your last sentence ist just pure bullshit. mata is by no means a Diva player, who only wants to be the star and gets carried by others. "he needs to grow up" ? ? wtf? he is probably one of the most mature players in our squad. arent you the one always supporting Torres and saying how great he is? lmao and now shitting on Mata.and the fact where you from has something to do with how you love a club. homegrown players, who go through all the academys etc in the club are more affiliated to it than foreigners, because they grew up with the club, were fans of it etc. mata has played 2,5 seasons. he cant have the same bond as someone who has been playing here for 10 years or who is english and affiliated to our club. its the same for example with lewandowski and Dortmund etc.Do you think Hazard is playing here, because he loves the club?! he is playing here, because we offered huge amount of money (he is to be rumoured ore most paid player) and because we won the CL. thats it. not because he loves the club. thats how football works. 99% of playerse are playing for the money. and its nothing bad about it. its their job.and comparing him to Azpis situation.... :clown: Your a funny clueless guy, I'm not arguing with you anymore you disagree with me fine.Mata is gone, us as Chelsea fans we should be united not squabbling over it amongst ourselves that's exactly what Man Utd fans want. They want Mata, he wants them, fine goodbye as I said, don't let the door hit you on the way out Juan. I wish you had more fight in you.He did also act ridiculously like a child just for being substituted slamming his chair, pathetic infront of players who don't play at all??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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