Kostas 1,468 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Do we have any information on who was the absolute retard that decided that he was to take the last penalty? I have serious doubts Jose would instruct an emotional teenager to take the last pen so I can only assume he requested it. Term-X, edenhazard17 and Peace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrayzayBarnet 126 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Do we have any information on who was the absolute retard that decided that he was to take the last penalty? I have serious doubts Jose would instruct an emotional teenager to take the last pen so I can only assume he requested it.at least he was man enough to step up and take one.. shows his maturity at his age and determination to impress. didierforever and pHaRaOn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Do we have any information on who was the absolute retard that decided that he was to take the last penalty? I have serious doubts Jose would instruct an emotional teenager to take the last pen so I can only assume he requested it.He's not a teenager. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svita 10 186 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Do we have any information on who was the absolute retard that decided that he was to take the last penalty? I have serious doubts Jose would instruct an emotional teenager to take the last pen so I can only assume he requested it.Jose did. He spoked with Romelu and he pointed his finger at him and Romelu said: OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kish9 50 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Does anyone agree that Cech was below average in penalties last night? Yes he kept us in the game, pulled off a few cracking saves... but how didn't he saveshaqiri's penalty?How many apart from Lukakus lame penalty did Neuer save? Or even get ad close to as Cech did on Shaqiri's penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Jose did. He spoked with Romelu and he pointed his finger at him and Romelu said: OK. If that was the case, then Jose was banking on Cech saving one. You could argue that was logical considering his performance prior to the shootout. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think he gets protected because of the seriously hostile comments he got in the first place, actually. And I think rightfully so. If someone would have called Oscar a miserable cunt that deserves to benched for a whole year for missing that sitter, he would have been defended as well - also rightfully so. I believe we should support our young players. Just saying, mate :-)I know, but one wrong doesnt make two right!Saying horrible things due to one single penalty isnt justifiable, but saying the penalty wasnt bad (and comparing it to Drogba's) isnt either...It is not like Lukaku must be benched, fined, loaned or whatever. But I cant believe people arent able to realise how horrible the shot was. I mean, I bet even your son could have saved it!A player with the future Romelu aspires to have just cant sucumble to pressure like that, it is all part of the onus their careers bring to those young stars and he will have to learn to cope with that.All in all, I believe all he needs to have is the support of everyone, but that he has to work on to be way more clynical than he is now, I have no doubt about it. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoro 151 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 He tried to be clever with the penalty, he failed, lets move on. Missing a penalty does not suddenly make a player shit. Luckily it wasnt a major trophy. bluephoenix, edenhazard17, DJames and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Uzzi 54 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Agree that it was completely incomprehensible to let Lukaku take the last kick. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan 14 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 lukaku came on in difficult circumstanceseverybody is whining about lukaku's penalty-yes it was an awful penaltyso was lampard's penalty against hull, nobody is complaining about thatoh yes we won that game so it's fine then for some people i don't hear anybody saying something about cole's Lucky penaltyi have seen oscar miss a HUGH chancecech not saving the first goal witch he normally savesa Lucky goal in the 120th mina referee who almost booked everybody off the Chelsea squad and not the bayern squadbut for some off you it's all lukaku's fault who played only 25 min defending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Lesson learnt the hard way....daft order but whichever the order was,still might have missed and left with the same outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! jonaaibosk 191 Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted August 31, 2013 Penalty shoot outs are an absolute lottery. Most keepers guess a direction and hope for the best. Some players smash it, some players place it and some players are indecisive and don't know what to do. The latter sums up Lukaku's penalty last night. He bottled it, plain and simple. Nothing to get angry over, it happens to the best players (See Roberto Baggio 1994 World Cup Final)The reaction from some folk on here is far more embarrassing than Lukaku's penalty. I said it in another thread and I'll say it in here, I've genuinely come to the conclusion that a lot of our fans (read that as posters on here) are wanton malcontents who will live out their lives in a permanent state of anger and frustration semiller1313, Stingray, Toli and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Least he got it saved rather then sending it over the bar or something mega frustrating.Bad penalty but his next one might be amazing.He's scored them before just yesterday it didnt happen.Bad luck jonaaibosk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 He's not a teenager.Thank you for your valuable insight.at least he was man enough to step up and take one.. shows his maturity at his age and determination to impress.Agree that it shows determination but in no way was that a sign of maturity, unless you somehow think that immaturity is more about holding back rather than being careless. In any case the decision to have him take the pen was immature, no matter who took it.Jose did. He spoked with Romelu and he pointed his finger at him and Romelu said: OK. :banghead: if true. But I will need source. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrayzayBarnet 126 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Thank you for your valuable insight.Agree that it shows determination but in no way was that a sign of maturity, unless you somehow think that immaturity is more about holding back rather than being careless. In any case the decision to have him take the pen was immature, no matter who took it. :banghead: if true. But I will need source.It was live... Svita 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Penalty shoot outs are an absolute lottery.I don't necessarily disagree, nor do I treat the following with anything less than extreme skepticism, but I think this might be an interesting read for you. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeo 37 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 So easy to analyse a penalty shoot out AFTER its happenedI could write something on yesterday's shootout and then point out all the errors and say its not a lotterygg. Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I don't necessarily disagree, nor do I treat the following with anything less than extreme skepticism, but I think this might be an interesting read for you.Surely that article just prove that what I said is true. Penalties are a lottery, the problem in 2008 that instead of going into the shoot out the way the would normally do, Chelsea went in with a plan, a theory. It's far easier to work out where a player is going to hit the ball if all of his team mates are using the exact same pattern. If Terry hadn't followed the plan, he may very well have scored. If the rest of the players didn't take similar penalties, then the Man Utd coach probably wouldn't have figured out the system.It was an interesting read, nonetheless, but it just proved to me that you can't go into a shootout with a plan, it has to be an on the spot split second decision, meaning that it's pretty much a lottery. The nonsense about nuclear missiles was a ridiculous comparison, I'm really not sure what that was all about The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Surely that article just prove that what I said is true. Penalties are a lottery, the problem in 2008 that instead of going into the shoot out the way the would normally do, Chelsea went in with a plan, a theory. It's far easier to work out where a player is going to hit the ball if all of his team mates are using the exact same pattern. If Terry hadn't followed the plan, he may very well have scored. If the rest of the players didn't take similar penalties, then the Man Utd coach probably wouldn't have figured out the system.It was an interesting read, nonetheless, but it just proved to me that you can't go into a shootout with a plan, it has to be an on the spot split second decision, meaning that it's pretty much a lottery. The nonsense about nuclear missiles was a ridiculous comparison, I'm really not sure what that was all aboutPlus I'm pretty sure we don't need an economist to tell us to hit penalties high and hard...ffs.I study Psychology and stats, and while I find examining raw data like this fascinating, I still know better than to use such data as predictors. For penalties, it's simply in the moment. Instinct if you will. It's about taking the best possible penalty you can take at that moment. If you put it where you want it, the keeper doesn't stand a chance. And if you fill your head with too much 'plans', 'strategies', stats etc., you're just going to fuck with your own head more than anything else...as the article proves! jonaaibosk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I hope it won't affected him too much. Lesson learned and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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