Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't think thats entirely true. If Ba was a better player and trained better he would have played ahead of the others.You don't really believe that do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 How much do you know him? Is he your friend or family member?If you only watch the games and read the newspapers you don't "know him", you just follow his career.He obviously wanted to move away from his favorite club because he did not see him self challenging old Samuel Eto'o and shit Fernando Torres. Thats not very ambitious. Even worse that he was/is (who knows now?) a huge Chelsea fan! He already got into his favorite club but didn't want to work harder than everyone for the chance, like Zouma has done. Hi Yeboli,he's not a family member... and I wouldn't say he's a good friend of mine. But I met him several times at Anderlecht and also had quite a few conversations with him, teammates and people around him.The father of my best friend was the Head of Medical Staff at Anderlecht when Romelu walked into the first team. So my opinion is not based on television & newspapers... but on real life talks and opinions with Romelu himself and with people very close to him.If I can tell you one thing... Media reports are often real bullshit! In the whole 'Lukaku has no ambition and doesn't want to fight for his spot' case... I can really tell you this was just one big media joke! Same thing with his 'reputation' as the one who speaks to the press about everything.I will defend him as long as I am a member on this forum... because this is really just not true and totally not fair to Romelu! zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 @atholy I hope you and your fellow Belgians remain on the Forum for a long time . Atholy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hi Yeboli,he's not a family member... and I wouldn't say he's a good friend of mine. But I met him several times at Anderlecht and also had quite a few conversations with him, teammates and people around him.The father of my best friend was the Head of Medical Staff at Anderlecht when Romelu walked into the first team. So my opinion is not based on television & newspapers... but on real life talks and opinions with Romelu himself and with people very close to him.If I can tell you one thing... Media reports are often real bullshit! In the whole 'Lukaku has no ambition and doesn't want to fight for his spot' case... I can really tell you this was just one big media joke! Same thing with his 'reputation' as the one who speaks to the press about everything.I will defend him as long as I am a member on this forum... because this is really just not true and totally not fair to Romelu!Alright, thats fair enough. I wonder, though, why he left his favorite club instead of fighting for his spot. I know at least that if I was playing for Chelsea I wouldn't have left, instead I would have tried and tried to play as much as possible. At least, I wouldn't go from a world class club to a lesser one like Everton.I was a big fan of Lukaku and was rooting for him to be our next top striker. I'm pretty sure Mourinho was as well. You don't really believe that do you? Yes. I do. Why is that hard to believe?Big trophies>Big strikers if you think the club was looking for publicity and fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 @atholy I hope you and your fellow Belgians remain on the Forum for a long time .Sure thing Zolayes! I have no reason to leave because I like it here :blue scalf:. Cheers mate! zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 You REALLY should use better sources Pacquiao. The whole mentality problem was simply created by tabloids. If you would really know & follow him... you would see he is extremely mature for a football player AND a 22 year old!!He's 100% professional and just wants to play, work hard and score goals.Do you also realize he scored 46(!!!) goals in 4 premier league seasons... at the age of 22(!). He's even in the TOP 100 all time EPL goal scorers.You're just making a fool of yourself when laughing at his career! If he would have stayed at Chelsea... that would be maybe 10 goals in 20% of the appearances he had now!I also might tell you something you didn't know about Lukaku and CL. Did you know he scored 7 goals in 13 apps at the age of 16-17? oh dear, there is no denying Lukaku didnt want to compete with Torres and Eto'o, it was a perfect situation for him to grow and develop at Chelsea, you are deuded if you think he wouldnt play, as i said if he just kept his mouth shut and worked hard he would have been 1st choice in no time ahead of Torres and Eto'o but he would rather take the easy option, and not fight for his place and play for a team with no pressure, that is why he will never be a world class striker, look at Costa he settled for playing on the wing in 2012/13 as he is strong mentally and believed in his ability, he knew he woud get his chance to be Atletico's 1st choice striker and he took it and had a better season then any striker in the world has had in a long time, scoring 36 goals and winning La Liga.Lukaku is happy playing for a mickey mouse team, who challenge for nothing! Ronaldo was becoming a star at Sporting Lisbon and could have stayed there a few more years playing every week and staring in the portuguese league, but he is also strong mentally and backed his ability and came to one of the biggest teams on the planet and ended up becoming a star there, Lukaku is weak mentally simple as that, he will never become a top player as he doesnt have the right mentaity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 oh dear, there is no denying Lukaku didnt want to compete with Torres and Eto'o, it was a perfect situation for him to grow and develop at Chelsea, you are deuded if you think he wouldnt play, as i said if he just kept his mouth shut and worked hard he would have been 1st choice in no time ahead of Torres and Eto'o but he would rather take the easy option, and not fight for his place and play for a team with no pressure, that is why he will never be a world class striker, look at Costa he settled for playing on the wing in 2012/13 as he is strong mentally and believed in his ability, he knew he woud get his chance to be Atletico's 1st choice striker and he took it and had a better season then any striker in the world has had in a long time, scoring 36 goals and winning La Liga.Lukaku is happy playing for a mickey mouse team, who challenge for nothing! Ronaldo was becoming a star at Sporting Lisbon and could have stayed there a few more years playing every week and staring in the portuguese league, but he is also strong mentally and backed his ability and came to one of the biggest teams on the planet and ended up becoming a star there, Lukaku is weak mentally simple as that, he will never become a top player as he doesnt have the right mentaity.I'm very happy that we have people on this forum that know everything.Thx for your update and insights Pacquiao! ps: what will you do if Romelu plays for a european top team in a few years, becoming a world class striker? I vote for running the London Marathon in a Chicken Costume! Who's in for a bet? Stats and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 oh dear, there is no denying Lukaku didnt want to compete with Torres and Eto'o, it was a perfect situation for him to grow and develop at Chelsea, you are deuded if you think he wouldnt play, as i said if he just kept his mouth shut and worked hard he would have been 1st choice in no time ahead of Torres and Eto'o but he would rather take the easy option, and not fight for his place and play for a team with no pressure, that is why he will never be a world class striker, look at Costa he settled for playing on the wing in 2012/13 as he is strong mentally and believed in his ability, he knew he woud get his chance to be Atletico's 1st choice striker and he took it and had a better season then any striker in the world has had in a long time, scoring 36 goals and winning La Liga.Lukaku is happy playing for a mickey mouse team, who challenge for nothing! Ronaldo was becoming a star at Sporting Lisbon and could have stayed there a few more years playing every week and staring in the portuguese league, but he is also strong mentally and backed his ability and came to one of the biggest teams on the planet and ended up becoming a star there, Lukaku is weak mentally simple as that, he will never become a top player as he doesnt have the right mentaity.Do you not understand? He is only 22 years old. Who gives a fuck if he is not at a big club now? Many top stars have been at much more average clubs at a similar age? There are many. He has another decade to be playing at the top level. His big move will come. He done the right thing in moving rather than warming the bench. Lukaku is ambitious and when the time is right will get his move and be a star imo. Hope you are still on the forum by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Do you not understand? He is only 22 years old. Who gives a fuck if he is not at a big club now? Many top stars have been at much more average clubs at a similar age? There are many. He has another decade to be playing at the top level. His big move will come. He done the right thing in moving rather than warming the bench. Lukaku is ambitious and when the time is right will get his move and be a star imo. Hope you are still on the forum by then.No i think you dont understand, Lukaku was seen as a one of the best young players in Europe who had potential to be world class, he came to Chelsea and couldnt handle it, now he has spent his time developing at mickey mouse teams like West Brom and Everton, developing at those clubs will not make him a top striker, Ronaldo prefered to develop at a top team like Man United rather then staying in his comfort zone at Sporting, Kaka done the same he chose to move to Milan and take his game to the next level rather then take the easy option and stay in Brazil, same with Neymar, same with Hazard, same with Isco the list goes on. But Lukaku decided to take a step down and not challenge himself, which is why he will never be one of the very best strikers.and you are deluded if you think Lukaku would have been a bench warmer here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Do you not understand? He is only 22 years old. Who gives a fuck if he is not at a big club now? Many top stars have been at much more average clubs at a similar age? There are many. He has another decade to be playing at the top level. His big move will come. He done the right thing in moving rather than warming the bench. Lukaku is ambitious and when the time is right will get his move and be a star imo. Hope you are still on the forum by then.IGNORE him he is a TROLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 IGNORE him he is a TROLLyeah because what i am saying isnt true is it? more like you have no comeback because you know i am right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 yeah because what i am saying isnt true is it? more like you have no comeback because you know i am right you post random stats then ignore those that prove you wrong LATEST OPTA stats show Lukaku in 3rd in pl ..A while back I quoted Squawka stats for Chelsea Ratings ,, last year Costa was our 6th best ,, This year 7 th .. I quoted these to you but you didnt answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 you post random stats then ignore those that prove you wrong LATEST OPTA stats show Lukaku in 3rd in pl ..A while back I quoted Squawka stats for Chelsea Ratings ,, last year Costa was our 6th best ,, This year 7 th .. I quoted these to you but you didnt answerAND i dont need to see your selfie post at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 you post random stats then ignore those that prove you wrong LATEST OPTA stats show Lukaku in 3rd in pl ..A while back I quoted Squawka stats for Chelsea Ratings ,, last year Costa was our 6th best ,, This year 7 th .. I quoted these to you but you didnt answerbecause none of that means anything to me, i dont even know what you are talking about, and stats dont tell the whole story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 AND i dont need to see your selfie post at the endits just so perfect for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I hope Rom lets his contract at Everton run down and join us on free to replace Costa in 4 years once the former has matured into a world class CF. God what i would give for that to happen just to see Martinez's face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 No i think you dont understand, Lukaku was seen as a one of the best young players in Europe who had potential to be world class, he came to Chelsea and couldnt handle it, now he has spent his time developing at mickey mouse teams like West Brom and Everton, developing at those clubs will not make him a top striker, Ronaldo prefered to develop at a top team like Man United rather then staying in his comfort zone at Sporting, Kaka done the same he chose to move to Milan and take his game to the next level rather then take the easy option and stay in Brazil, same with Neymar, same with Hazard, same with Isco the list goes on. But Lukaku decided to take a step down and not challenge himself, which is why he will never be one of the very best strikers.and you are deluded if you think Lukaku would have been a bench warmer here.NO. We bought Lukaku and he spent a year playing in our reserves. So is him playing at WBA his fault or ours? We sent him there on loan so you are effectively blaming us for not developing him in to a top striker? Because we sent him out on loan and the following season despite being our top scorer in pre-season and being better than all of our strikers he did not gain a start in any of our first 4 games IIRC? This was with Ba and Torres there. Eto'o then arrives and from then he obviously thought "Fuck this". Lukaku had every right to feel pissed off. He deserved a start from the off but never got that. He proved himself out on loan once again but as showed with the signing of Costa, we were never going to have faith with him as a no.1.Comparing Ronaldo leaving Sporting to Lukaku staying at Everton is uncomparable. One is a average league, the other is a top league in the world. Lukaku is not playing for a top team but he is playing for a good team in arguably the best league in the world. Is Lacazzette unambitious for staying at Lyon even though next season he may get a big move and has years ahead of him? Stop talking nonsense. I could understand you saying this if Lukaku was late 20s but he is bloody 22. At the end of his football career we could easily and probably will be talking about his major accomplishments and the biggest clubs in the world he has played for. He will not be at Everton for years to come and will no doubt be at a major club. Will that stop your talk about him never being a top striker? He is a top striker and will continue to score goals to silence people like you. The kid is 22 and has 5/6 goals to his name this season?When you are 22 and playing in the EPL for a team like Everton that does not hinder your development. Bigger clubs will soon take a punt on him and take him. Yeah, I am deluded for thinking Lukaku would be a bench warmer here? When Torres and Ba came, he did not start a game. Eto'o came when he still had a lot of quality and started as soon as he joined where Lukaku never got that chance. I think I know who the deluded one if you think Lukaku was going to be given a fair shot. Was not going to happen. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 NO. We bought Lukaku and he spent a year playing in our reserves. So is him playing at WBA his fault or ours? We sent him there on loan so you are effectively blaming us for not developing him in to a top striker? Because we sent him out on loan and the following season despite being our top scorer in pre-season and being better than all of our strikers he did not gain a start in any of our first 4 games IIRC? This was with Ba and Torres there. Eto'o then arrives and from then he obviously thought "Fuck this". Lukaku had every right to feel pissed off. He deserved a start from the off but never got that. He proved himself out on loan once again but as showed with the signing of Costa, we were never going to have faith with him as a no.1.Lukaku deserved to start? no he never! pre-season performances do not warrant you a automatic place in the team. The players he had to compete with were never going to keep him out the team in the long term, the guy had no fight in him at all, very weak mentally, just look at Costa he was willing to spend a season playing out of position in 2012/13 because he believed in his ability and believed he would get his chance to prove himself at Atletico, and look what hapened he was excellent and scored 20 goals while playing out wide or behind Falcao and the following season after selling Falcao instead of buying a new striker Atletico gave Costa his chance and he took it and scored 36 goals en route to the La Liga title. Look at Remy if was competing with players of Torres and Eto'os level then no doubt he would have played himself into the starting xi with his goals from the bench, that is all Lukaku had to do was get his head down, work hard and take his chances and no dount he would have got into the first xi.Comparing Ronaldo leaving Sporting to Lukaku staying at Everton is uncomparable. One is a average league, the other is a top league in the world. Lukaku is not playing for a top team but he is playing for a good team in arguably the best league in the world. Is Lacazzette unambitious for staying at Lyon even though next season he may get a big move and has years ahead of him? Stop talking nonsense. I could understand you saying this if Lukaku was late 20s but he is bloody 22. At the end of his football career we could easily and probably will be talking about his major accomplishments and the biggest clubs in the world he has played for. He will not be at Everton for years to come and will no doubt be at a major club. Will that stop your talk about him never being a top striker? He is a top striker and will continue to score goals to silence people like you. The kid is 22 and has 5/6 goals to his name this season?yes it is, Everton is a big step down from Chelsea, Lacazette is at one of the best teams in his country and playing in the CL, so that is an awful example, fact is Lukaku is not going to develop into a world class striker playing for average managers surrounded by average players, its not good for his development at all, i dont care how many goals he scores at Everton, its one thing scoring for a mickey mouse team who compete for nothing and a completely different thing to do it for an elite club who compete for every throphy and have pressure to win every game they play, against teams who raise their game when they play against you.Lukaku is too weak mentally to ever make it at one of the very best teams in the world, imagine if he signed for Man United for example and then the following season Man U sign Aboubakar to compete with him, then LVG starts playing Aboubakar over Lukaku, what is Rom going to do? he will start to sulk and cry and ask to leave, and will just end up taking a step down again and end up at a team like Tottenham or Wolfsburg, Lukaku isnt cut out to be at a top club.When you are 22 and playing in the EPL for a team like Everton that does not hinder your development. Bigger clubs will soon take a punt on him and take him. Yeah, I am deluded for thinking Lukaku would be a bench warmer here? When Torres and Ba came, he did not start a game. Eto'o came when he still had a lot of quality and started as soon as he joined where Lukaku never got that chance. I think I know who the deluded one if you think Lukaku was going to be given a fair shot. Was not going to happen.oh so you believe in the theory that Lukaku wouldnt have been given a fair shot at Chelsea? well guess what neither was Harry Kane given a fair shot at Spurs, Pochettino was adamant on getting the best out of Soldado and Adebayor but Kane forced his way into the Tottenham team he made Pochettino have no choice but to play him, if Lukaku had the right mentality he could have done the same, but if it helps you sleep at night you keep thinking he would have been a bench warmer here. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I don't know a single person on this forum who wanted Lukaku gone. He'd be the absolute perfect player for second half once having the lead or a tough away match... My understanding is that he wanted to go, so there is only so much you can do. Now to claim that he was or even now is ready to start for chelsea is being delusional or disingenuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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