Mario Götze

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Yes hes not good compared to Oscar

i think Ancheloti will destroy his talent if put him on the bench for wood like Bale and etc.

People that are actualy compare Isco with Oscar based on youtube videos...I guess based on that Nani, Hulk, Quaresma etc are equaly good to Hazard just because they have great videos on youtube and do little tricks all the time.

Comparing Isco with Oscar is impossible. Completely different players even if they play in #10. Isco is better in attack, Oscar is better in allround game.

But you have to know we play Mourinho way and when a key game comes, he will close down and tell everyone bar Hazard to do extensive defensive work. I for one wouldnt want Isco probably not even Oscar, but someone like Koke who can do all the defending he is asked for, but still deliver what is expected from AM.

Im not even sure what are you people even comparing. Who is better player (which is truly waste of time) or who suits our team better? Isco doesnt suit our team more than Oscar in any way.

And yet people find Isco as someone who would be better here than Oscar based on his trickery. Well football titles are not won by trickery. You should know that. There is a factor of efficiency, presence on field, team play from individual player that help the team much more than just his dribbles and flicks and tricks. But I would somehow understand if we were barcelona. But we are not. This is Mou Chelsea, so I realy dont know how can people rate Isco over Oscar in tactical terms. I dont even think Oscar is perfect, Pogba, Koke would be much better, but Isco isnt either.

There is a reason why Isco doesnt start when Madrid is fully fit and they dont win games when they are missing James, Modric and if you watched Real Madrid games, you would know that without posting silly youtube videos and stats.

Isco is someone who attempts alot and thats why he is visible every game with his individual skill, but he doesnt do alot. Mourinho is all about efficiency.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

I like the fact you base your arguments on things you will probably never find out. I said I took Isco out of the equasion and the fact you are trying to deny Oscar's inconsistency level with a mere pass, which he HAS to do at that situation, and by putting Isco back in the debate, proves me right all along. That there are some people, so blindly inlove with players who don't contribute as much as they should, that they'd actually use single cases of genius in order to make up for reality. Oscar is inconsistent, it's a fact, Oscar won't fit at any other top team bar Juventus, that is also a fact, you know why, because he is inconsistent. Gilvorak is just another prime example of blind Oscar fanship over the top.

Fact is we can do with a upgrade on Oscar and if you don't want that, don't moan when we grind out the results needed, because Oscar didn't decide to turn up and boss the midfield like he can, and we are forced to play only counter - attacking football.

dont have a clue what you are talking about to be honest you sound pretty deluded to me and seem to ignore so much of what has been said already.

Just glad Mourinho knows what he is doing and knows how good oscar is and isnt a clueless as some on here.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Isco is shit. So what is Oscar?

Isco isnt shit, i havent seen one person on here say that, you should either learn to read or try watching some games. :clown:

[LondonsFinest 692]

dont have a clue what you are talking about to be honest you sound pretty deluded to me and seem to ignore so much of what has been said already.

Just glad Mourinho knows what he is doing and knows how good oscar is and isnt a clueless as some on here.

Do you even know what deluded means? I haven't ignored anything, whilst you just ignored my whole post by saying a word you have most probably seen on twitter, but not knowing what it means.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Do you even know what deluded means? I haven't ignored anything, whilst you just ignored my whole post by saying a word you have most probably seen on twitter, but not knowing what it means.

yes i do.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Yes hes not good compared to Oscar

i think Ancheloti will destroy his talent if put him on the bench for wood like Bale and etc.

clear sign of someone losing the argument by bringing in the youtube videos! :tophat:

[Special Juan 28,122]

Right lets get back on topic about Goetze please. You want to speak of Oscar and all his attributes and failings then please do it in his thread.

Muchos.

[LondonsFinest 692]

yes i do.

Feel like I' m talking to a 10 year old.

Right on the topic, I'd be astonished if Bayern lose faith in him and sell him. Bayern values German blood, so It'd be surprising. Wolfsburg and BVB are candidates, far as I know.

[gdlk 286]

Lol loosing the argument ? I asume that some of you havent watched even 1 match of Isco and only speaking. He cant do defensive work ? - just watch matches from last CL Real-Bayern and check. The player who stoped Roben most of the times to come inside and shoot was Isco!

Dont get me wrong, I like Oscar but lets be fair - Isco is one level ahead! But if Ancheloti keeps playin him out of possition i think his tallent wiil be destroyed.

[Chelsea? 892]

no you like most people on here are massivley underrating Oscar! i had people telling me few weeks ago that Oscar has no vision and cant play a simple 5 yard pass, then he goes and plays an outrageous back heel to set up Hazard against Man United, and that wasnt the first time he has pulled off a pass like that! I am just glad Mourinho knows how good Oscar is.

the thing is Oscar is like Ramirez, good at a lot but not world class at much. Oscar and Cesc together won't get us the ucl, nor will Cesc and Gotze imo. I think maybe a koke type player might.

[Mechromancer 262]

I really like that video. Shows how good is Gotze. :ph34r2:

[TheOneChan95 225]

I wonder if we manage to sign him, can that convince Reus to come?

In all seriousness I think he would be the signing to take our offense to a new level. He definitely has the football brain to link up with Haz and Cesc.

[blu35_army 551]

I wonder if we manage to sign him, can that convince Reus to come?

In all seriousness I think he would be the signing to take our offense to a new level. He definitely has the football brain to link up with Haz and Cesc.

Gotzardus [emoji7]

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

So many people on here clearly doesnt watch isco play regularly because if you did you would know how poor he is in the final third, his vision is poor his decision making is poor, his finishing ability is also poor. Too often he just doesnt see the pass, and ends up holding onto the ball for too long and the chance is gone. He also tries to dribble too much in the final third when he should pass, and he tries to pass when the pass isnt on, he needs to learn fast.

No one can connvince me Isco is better then Oscar, i watch both play week in week out, Oscar is a more complete player and has less weakness then Isco.

Vision is poor? Decision making poor? Mate give up.

Oscar's biggest weakness is that hes a number 10 who struggles to create goal scoring opportunities.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

I'd be astonished if Bayern lose faith in him and sell him. Bayern values German blood, so It'd be surprising. Wolfsburg and BVB are candidates, far as I know.

Bayern do value german blood but i don't think they value gotze's ability,and its nothing like that when robben or ribery don't play he plays. remember when both of them were out guardiola didn't pick gotze in the team even then