bushman 2,043 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Even though, many of you think Kalas should stay with the team, I am not sure whether he shouldn´t be loaned out for 6 months or so. The way I saw him, several crucial mistakes were made by him. These mistakes may cost the team valuable points during the season. I just wonder, whether Jose is going to play him against lower teams or when Chelsea are leading only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Right now Kalas' biggest blessing and problem is his athleticism. He's probably the most athletic and mobile defender I've ever seen and he's capable of crazy stuff due to this athleticism. However, he relies too much on these attributes instead of focusing on, for example, positioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Well, positioning is very crucial, I feel. Any defender out of position creates chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Bar the own goal (which is something that happens to all players) what else did he do wrong? We weren't tested enough defensively to say he didn't have a good tour. Give the lad some time, he really is great at CB, and obviously Mou has seen thatthe goal itself was not the problem, the way in which the striker went past him is the cos of concern.also i think both the goals we conceded were his mistakes. the first goal (the one from the set-piece in the 2nd match) would have been cleared by any of cahill, JT, DL or iva.a couple of poor back-passes in the first match to cech.couple of horrible passes in the last match,the way he lost a long ball to an indonesian striker when he jumped to early was bad too.so as i see it, so many mistakes when we were not even tested is a sign to worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I agree, too many amateurish mistakes by Kalas were seen. I am afraid to think what he is gonna do when much better players are running around him.Well, the team is going to America & Jose will decide, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I didn't bother to tune into any of the friendlies so far,they are just fitness and training sessions to me and if I run the club they would only be in Europe as that's the only environment our players need to learn to play in..I do recall many times in the past tho some players looking shit hot in pre-season then just plain shit when it mattered and vice versa.I trust in Jose,happy to leave these decisions to him and enjoy the summer relaxing myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Actually as defenders they are the complete opposite of each otherYeah, I meant as new players and nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 ThisActually as defenders they are the complete opposite of each otherI think Kalas simply should play RB, as i understand Wallace is loaned out anyway. I want to see him against bigger and better oppositions first to judge him as a defender. Most people would not give a shit what an attacker does when you are 8 goals up. Communication and experience will come, but his size worries me. He is sooo small, he will not stand a chance against most EPL strikers physically. So small? He's around 6 ft 2, and is quite filled out for his frame. No idea what you're on about. Kalas is a great athlete, has size and pace to match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 the goal itself was not the problem, the way in which the striker went past him is the cos of concern.also i think both the goals we conceded were his mistakes. the first goal (the one from the set-piece in the 2nd match) would have been cleared by any of cahill, JT, DL or iva.a couple of poor back-passes in the first match to cech.couple of horrible passes in the last match,the way he lost a long ball to an indonesian striker when he jumped to early was bad too.so as i see it, so many mistakes when we were not even tested is a sign to worry. I honestly think some of these supposed mistakes have been exaggerrated or in some cases not even happened (opinions though I guess). The only time his communication skills were lacking was in that first game. His passing has been nothing special like Luiz standard, but then nothing awful, just keeps it simple. The Indonesian striker who created the own goal had also given Cahill and Wallace a few issues during the game too, not just Kalas. Really don't think there's anything to worry about yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I'm not going to be critical of his passing on those pitches, they were absolutely horrendous. I think he can do a decent job for us this season. Have some faith. johnson thang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 He's a young kid with a lot of potential and he's going to make mistakes. That's what young players do. What we do is support them, understand that and don't immediately question them and ask for them to be loaned out.Personally I'm hoping the club looks to loan out some of the supporters this year. Coming into a club like Chelsea who are looking to develop youngsters is a big step up and some time at a smaller club where the blooding of youngsters is a necessity would help develop their skills when it comes to understanding that youngsters take time to settle in new teams, new systems and new environments.Six months at somewhere like Crewe would be great and then they can come back in for the title run-in when we need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 He's a young kid with a lot of potential and he's going to make mistakes. That's what young players do. What we do is support them, understand that and don't immediately question them and ask for them to be loaned out.Personally I'm hoping the club looks to loan out some of the supporters this year. Coming into a club like Chelsea who are looking to develop youngsters is a big step up and some time at a smaller club where the blooding of youngsters is a necessity would help develop their skills when it comes to understanding that youngsters take time to settle in new teams, new systems and new environments.Six months at somewhere like Crewe would be great and then they can come back in for the title run-in when we need them.Agree with everything you said but he's far above Crewe's level. If we were to send him out on loan he'd go to a decent PL team. He was one of Vitesse's best players last season and the season before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Agree with everything you said but he's far above Crewe's level. If we were to send him out on loan he'd go to a decent PL team. He was one of Vitesse's best players last season and the season before.I don't think he'd get regular time on a decent PL team yet. I'd rather he go to a Championship side and get regular playing time than to languish on some team's bench. I don't think there's any particular rush to bring any of our youngsters into our squad and a loan to a side where he doesn't get playing time can be extremely damaging to a players' development. (Look at Kakuta or McEachran for examples of that). Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Jose has shown no desire to loan him out and I'm glad.Someone said earlier young players make mistakes,but in reality all players just like the humans they are make mistakes regardless of age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I don't think he'd get regular time on a decent PL team yet. I'd rather he go to a Championship side and get regular playing time than to languish on some team's bench. I don't think there's any particular rush to bring any of our youngsters into our squad and a loan to a side where he doesn't get playing time can be extremely damaging to a players' development. (Look at Kakuta or McEachran for examples of that). He's ahead of Kakuta and McEachran in his development though. He's been one of the better defenders in the Eredivisie for two years now, a Championship loan would be a step down. He's definitely good enough to play for a decent Premier League team, trust me. He's already been capped once by his senior national team. Vitesse are a decent Europa League standard team, and he's been one of their better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 to met it looked like he was about to deal with the striker but cole ran across him and got in his way. and then he was in a bad position and the cross hit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Agree with everything you said but he's far above Crewe's level. If we were to send him out on loan he'd go to a decent PL team. He was one of Vitesse's best players last season and the season before.I think you should re-read what 'The only place to be' said mate......... The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 He looks like Gudjohnsen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I think you should re-read what 'The only place to be' said mate.........LOL yeah, I've seen. Sort of skimmed through his post and thought he was on about Kalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 He's our next JT26, hopefully. Looking like a classic 'English' centre-back...he'll learn a lot from Terry and Cahill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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