LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 That's harsh .. why shouldn't Mourinho get credit for the defences he built?He does, of course. It's one thing to have the squad, but it's another to actually win as many points. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discredit the work he did in anyway. I'm just saying that records like that aren't as simple as "therefore, Mourinho is superior to them based on this" Madmax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Granted. But look at the teams they were playing for... Casillas playing for Madrid and Buffon playing for Parma, who in the late 1990s were easily one of the best teams in Italy. Courtois played at Genk, yes, but then playing for arguably the best defensive side in world football. So whilst Buffon and Casillas have incredible records, they played for excellent sides at the time. Neuer's record is very impressive, though, as Schalke have never been the tightest team defensively. Courtois' record is amazing, though, already 112 clean sheets (I think?) and still another five months before he's 23. 1. Courtois is one of the biggest reason why his side was one of the best defensive sides in the world.2. There is a difference between being the best defensive side and the most defensive side. Simeone's Atletico parked the bus against every team in every game. This meant tremendous work for the goalkeeper. Having played for such a side makes Courtois' record even more impressive, not less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Clean sheet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 1. Courtois is one of the biggest reason why his side was one of the best defensive sides in the world.2. There is a difference between being the best defensive side and the most defensive side. Simeone's Atletico parked the bus against every team in every game. This meant tremendous work for the goalkeeper. Having played for such a side makes Courtois' record even more impressive, not less.You've misread my post. I can't be arsed explaining. But that isn't what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Clean sheet What is actually more pleasing is the incredible confidence - his own confidence when it comes to crosses or kicks and our confidence in him. Brilliant. kellzfresh, Strike and RoyalBlues 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 What is actually more pleasing is the incredible confidence - his own confidence when it comes to crosses or kicks and our confidence in him. Brilliant.This is where he is different class compared to Cech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 What I noticed today from one if the corners is he went to collect, realised he wasn't getting there and quickly ran back.Most would panic in that situation but he knows what to do every single time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Class keeper, doesn't take shit Nzonzi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeholiday 209 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 His save on that deflected shot was top notch. So agile for his size. Madmax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Indeed, I said 'GOAL!' the moment it took a nick off JT. Great reaction save made all the better because he'd been wrong footed. He must provide so much relief to the defence ... compare Cech's flapping at the ball to his self-assured cool catches. yuvala and Eggman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Commanding his box brilliantly right now, such a huge presence in there. His reaction from the JT deflection was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He made them look easy, but I thought he made 3 very difficult saves. In the air, he was as awesome as ever. Great boost to have him back especially for Stoke away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He's a catcher of the ball and it's so underrated right now. When you see guys like Mignolet and even De Gea punching and parrying unnecessarily, it's often infuriating as a neutral. kellzfresh and bababoom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 One thing he has improved, which I know a few of us were worried about from his Atletico days was his parries from shots and shots from wide into danger areas. Looks to have addressed that and parries into non-cluttered areas or into a Chelsea players path, it really is impressive. It cannot be done all the time but he's improved since he's been here which is a feat in itself no matter how much we feel sorry for Petr. bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 One thing he has improved, which I know a few of us were worried about from his Atletico days was his parries from shots and shots from wide into danger areas. Looks to have addressed that and parries into non-cluttered areas or into a Chelsea players path, it really is impressive. It cannot be done all the time but he's improved since he's been here which is a feat in itself no matter how much we feel sorry for Petr.Either himself, Mourinho, or Lollichon (assuming the latter works closely with Courtois) must've looked at De Gea. De Gea had more or less the same reputation when he was Atletico Madrid.. Everyone was a huge fan, from those in La Liga to those only watching other leagues. The Spaniard was an excellent shot stopper but wasn't great at dominating the area when he moved to England. This was because of the difference in the physicality of both leagues. De Gea has learnt his lesson the hard way and is better in his 6-yard box. Courtois was instantly that good and that's the difference between De Gea and himself, the Belgian's adaptability is much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Honestly, the biggest compliment I can give Courtois is that he reminds me of a prime Petr Cech. He dealt with Stoke's physicality with ease and claimed everything in the air. The Skipper, kellzfresh and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Didnt Courtois used to punch? Seems like our coaches is getting him to claim the ball instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 King in the air and the way he commands his area to deal with crosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I've never seen a goalkeeper so fired up to come and deal with crosses, most keepers I train are usually shit scared and won't leave their six yard box, and when they do it's never to try and catch a ball. That being said, he is 6'6" and I guess it's a lot easier when you've got such a high ape index with arms the size of his! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Good read:http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/416956/Filipe-Luis-Chelsea-Thibaut-Courtois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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