Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Schwarzer should remain #2 regardless of who gets the #1 shirt - while the 3rd keeper logically has to be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The next big thing comes onto the scene and suddenly people are eager to toss the besk GK in our history to the side. He's only 31 for crying out loud and is still a Top 3 GK in the World.Further proof loyalty simply doesn't exist in football or sports in general.So we should discard 'the next big thing' instead and hope we sign the next 'next big thing' when he comes along? You make it sound like signing the 'next big thing' is easy. He's 31but Courtois is 21 and there's an argument about who the better keeper is already. That type of talent is phenomenal and for you to dismiss it so lightly might sound loyal (I'd say overly sentimental) but in terms of managing talent seems rather short-sighted. Stingray and Reddish-Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The next big thing comes onto the scene and suddenly people are eager to toss the besk GK in our history to the side. He's only 31 for crying out loud and is still a Top 3 GK in the World.Further proof loyalty simply doesn't exist in football or sports in general.Sadly because of FFP, we don't have a choice. Cech has 5 more solid years to give, but if we sell courtois, it means we then have to buy another keeper in no time under FFP jurisdiction.Because of this, I'm very sure courtois will be our No. 1 next season, unless we use him as a bargaining chip for Costa (bcos of our striker needs) in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Sadly because of FFP, we don't have a choice. Cech has 5 more solid years to give, but if we sell courtois, it means we then have to buy another keeper in no time under FFP jurisdiction.Because of this, I'm very sure courtois will be our No. 1 next season, unless we use him as a bargaining chip for Costa (bcos of our striker needs) in the summer.Sadly because of FFP, we don't have a choice. Cech has 5 more solid years to give, but if we sell courtois, it means we then have to buy another keeper in no time under FFP jurisdiction.Because of this, I'm very sure courtois will be our No. 1 next season, unless we use him as a bargaining chip for Costa (bcos of our striker needs) in the summer.Perhaps they are hoping to use Costa as a bagrain chip to get courtois permanent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Perhaps they are hoping to use Costa as a bagrain chip to get courtois permanent They have the best striker scouts out there. Maybe they are trusting them and keeping courtois who has been vital to their amazing defensive record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The next big thing comes onto the scene and suddenly people are eager to toss the besk GK in our history to the side. He's only 31 for crying out loud and is still a Top 3 GK in the World.Further proof loyalty simply doesn't exist in football or sports in general.Sorry to say this but nowadays there is hardly loyalty anymore, in the old days when footballers didn't get pay much more than average workers, then it was loyalty. Nowadays money is the most important thing, if some billionaire decides to buy Crystal Palace and agreeing to pay top players like £200k per week, they will come to Palace. That is how much football has changed, a period is over. This might sound hurtful but the truth is fans are also attracted by success and money. If Chelsea wasn't that successful in the last 10 years, there wouldn't be many fans supporting the club from all over the world, look at teams like West Brom for example, which is what we would have probably ended up as if Roman didn't took over. No one or hardly anyone support them outside of the city, many people don't even know who they are unless they are a big fan of BPL. That is how much it has changed, football has gone more than a sport now, it is a brand, a business. Nowadays it isn't just entertainment alone anymore. http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/1/8/5276182/chelsea-player-wage-database-salaries-january-transfer-window#comment_teaseIf the figures from WAGNH are to be believed, then Schwarzer is earning only 20k wages p/w. It may be a lot for common people like us but the opposite in the footballing world. And TBF, let's not go all stereotype on Schwarzer wanting money just because he wants to stay. He has only won 1 trophy in his club career - League Cup in 2004 - and perhaps he just see this as an opportunity to win 1-2 big trophies before he retire.I agree but I still believe Mark won't be a massive factor in any decision. Like you already said, probably it will end up Cech or Cortouis leaving permanently so Mark will get to stay, but lets say if Cech agreed to be a Casillas then we all know he is going to be no 2 for us. Yeah I suppose you could say the latter about Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Sadly because of FFP, we don't have a choice. Cech has 5 more solid years to give, but if we sell courtois, it means we then have to buy another keeper in no time under FFP jurisdiction.Because of this, I'm very sure courtois will be our No. 1 next season, unless we use him as a bargaining chip for costa in the summer.Or, god forbid, promote Blackman to back-up keeper. But of course that won't happen because we don't trust him to even do what Hilario is doing right now: Nothing! We had to actually renew Hilario's contract so he would sit on the bench if one of Petr or Mark get injured because we can't trust Jamal to do even that. Smh... Bosnian Blue, kellzfresh and Sovieticus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,505 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Or, god forbid, promote Blackman to back-up keeper. But of course that won't happen because we don't trust him to even do what Hilario is doing right now: Nothing! We had to actually renew Hilario's contract so he would sit on the bench if one of Petr or Mark get injured because we can't trust Jamal to do even that. Smh...Letting Blackman sit on the bench would be a waste of time...He's better off learning his trade with the U-21's at this stage of his development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Letting Blackman sit on the bench would be a waste of time...He's better off learning his trade with the U-21's at this stage of his developmentHe's still be learning his trade in the U21s because he would be playing as much as Hilario has been this season. It's about the kind of message you send to all your youth players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 An indication Cech will stay?Chelsea FC @chelseafc 49s Mourinho: 'Cech is almost 10 years at the top. Now he's beaten Bonetti's record & next year probably breaks the Premier League record.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Doesn't bode well for Courtois does it? gr123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We'll probably loan Cech out to relegation teams until he gets his record.Well I would. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We'll probably loan Cech out to relegation teams until he gets his record.Well I would. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We are gonna sell one the best GK in the world just for Cech to break the record...please tell me otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I keep changing my mind about the Cech/Courtois situation every other week so I've realized that since I'm changing my take on the situation so often then I should be okay with whatever Jose decides at the end of the season. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I keep changing my mind about the Cech/Courtois situation every other week so I've realized that since I'm changing my take on the situation so often then I should be okay with whatever Jose decides at the end of the season.Even if Mark becomes our no1? mediator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Even if Mark becomes our no1? As long as we don't give Hilario yet another extension and make him no1... Mouri_Matic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 An indication Cech will stay?i really hope not. nothing against cech by courtois is easily better. but it does seem that way. frustrating, i 100% think lukaku and courtois should be chelsea first XIplayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I keep changing my mind about the Cech/Courtois situation every other week so I've realized that since I'm changing my take on the situation so often then I should be okay with whatever Jose decides at the end of the season.best solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 In what way has Courtois been the better GK the last 2 seasons? Cech in 2012 was easily his best ever season.Even last season is somewhat debatable. Cech had the best save ratio in Europe last season.new and younger is always better and "more exciting" haven't you heard. BlueLion. and Gilvorak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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