Chelsea Sack Andre Villas-Boas

[Chelsea? 892]

if the players know/knew avb was more powerful than them in Chelsea, I think they might realize they need to step up. btw are there any rumors of a lamps exist anywhere?

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

• Calling for an evolution and not revolution.
  
• Trying to force his style of high line with a team not build for such a style.
  
• Mismanagement of some great servants like Anelka and Alex.
  
• Lack of youth integration into the team.
  
• Continued support for Torres.
  
• Arrogant towards the help of others.
  
• And stating he needs no support from his team but only the owners.
  

Clearly AVB is guilty as he stands, but The Big Kahuna, Roman, will have the final verdict.

Will he forgive AVB for his sins? Or cast him out of his kingdom?

I think AVB has tried his best to revoloutionise the squad with what he's got. We have to give to him give him credit for doing something, not many managers had the balls too give in and demote Lampard to the bench and stuff. I think you can't really have a revolution without trying to enforce a new style too. But I do agree, we need a plan B until the seasons completion, then we can fully implement AVB's philosophy. Afterall You can't make a Lamborghini with rusty parts. Alex and Anelka were probably two players that should've remained over others. But they wanted out so what can he do? I think he's done well with playing Sturridge, but Mceachran should've been used better. He's still made bigger steps in half a season that most previous managers in the youth department He's shown a lot of guts but dropping Torres would be a difficult task for anybody. The £50 million price tag virtually guarantee's him a spot.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

We have been moaning about player power for years, weve now got a manager trying to do something about it and we moan? he may have gone a bit too far but would you rather he sat around and let the players cause havoc?

Bertrand aside he has got it right, eg with Lukaku, struggled so reserves for a bit, now looks more sharp.

Got a point with the first one, but why bother with player power when you had two transfer window to get rid of some that?

Mourinho has some player power today at Madrid, but that's without Raul and Guti. Two big player power that would fall in the Drogba and Lampard category.

For youth he has done far worse then Carlo, and I remember clearly wanting Carlo out just for that.

Otherwise I would have stick to Carlo.

AVB ain't no better with youth in that department.

[Chelsea? 892]

• Calling for an evolution and not revolution. Agree with this about AVB he should have signed way more players than he did. However, I'm not sure how much power his has on our transfers. what disappointed me about avb/chelsea was thinking Mata and Raul alone would be enough for this year.
  
• Trying to force his style of high line with a team not build for such a style.not necessarily, our team didn't score much last year and his solution to that was a high line. We played well with it to in preseaon and in our first 2-3 games. There was really no way of knowing our team isn't built for a high line. Barca - I know, another barca comparision- play the high line greatly and their defenders are not faster than ours.
  
• Mismanagement of some great servants like Anelka and Alex.. Maybe he was trying to prove a point. i.e player power is done at Cheslea
  
• Lack of youth integration into the team.He tried to integrate youth but: no real youth with real talents to break into first team. he also played Romeu alot this year, and Danny but what other choice he got?
  
• Continued support for Torres.I'm among those that say try danny in the middle but I've recently came to the conclusion that our CF won't score much cause our service is poor.
  
• Arrogant towards the help of others. Interesting point
  
• And stating he needs no support from his team but only the owners.I think he mean't players that don't support his "project"
  

[Tomo 21,751]

For youth he has done far worse then Carlo, and I remember clearly wanting Carlo out just for that.

Otherwise I would have stick to Carlo.

AVB ain't no better with youth in that department.

I see where your coming from but personally i think we need to wait until this time next year to judge AVB's youth policy, he did well with James Rodriques at Porto and plays Romeu a fair bit (not our product but young and inexpierenced none the less).

[Justin_3d 1,140]

I think AVB has tried his best to revoloutionise the squad with what he's got. We have to give to him give him credit for doing something, not many managers had the balls too give in and demote Lampard to the bench and stuff. I think you can't really have a revolution without trying to enforce a new style too. But I do agree, we need a plan B until the seasons completion, then we can fully implement AVB's philosophy. Afterall You can't make a Lamborghini with rusty parts. Alex and Anelka were probably two players that should've remained over others. But they wanted out so what can he do? I think he's done well with playing Sturridge, but Mceachran should've been used better. He's still made bigger steps in half a season that most previous managers in the youth department He's shown a lot of guts but dropping Torres would be a difficult task for anybody. The £50 million price tag virtually guarantee's him a spot.

He tried to demote Lampard, and then got scared and started playing him often till he got injured.....Not so great balls.

I know i got cursed out here for saying Lampard should be bench and playing less during pre-season time.

And Sturridge was just a player that fell in your lap. Cause I remember the club was about to send him out on loan again. The only thing that stop him was that well pre-season that he had.

I guess another sign of poor vision.

[Sheva. 5,373]

• Calling for an evolution and not revolution.
  
• Trying to force his style of high line with a team not build for such a style.
  
• Mismanagement of some great servants like Anelka and Alex.
  
• Lack of youth integration into the team.
  
• Continued support for Torres.
  
• Arrogant towards the help of others.
  
• And stating he needs no support from his team but only the owners.
  

Clearly AVB is guilty as he stands, but The Big Kahuna, Roman, will have the final verdict.

Will he forgive AVB for his sins? Or cast him out of his kingdom?

The only "sin" or whatever for me is the first two, the rest are not that big of a deal.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

• Calling for an evolution and not revolution. Agree with this about AVB he should have signed way more players than he did. However, I'm not sure how much power his has on our transfers. what disappointed me about avb/chelsea was thinking Mata and Raul alone would be enough for this year.
  
• Trying to force his style of high line with a team not build for such a style.not necessarily, our team didn't score much last year and his solution to that was a high line. We played well with it to in preseaon and in our first 2-3 games. There was really no way of knowing our team isn't built for a high line. Barca - I know, another barca comparision- play the high line greatly and their defenders are not faster than ours.
  
• Mismanagement of some great servants like Anelka and Alex.. Maybe he was trying to prove a point. i.e player power is done at Cheslea
  
• Lack of youth integration into the team.He tried to integrate youth but: no real youth with real talents to break into first team. he also played Romeu alot this year, and Danny but what other choice he got?
  
• Continued support for Torres.I'm among those that say try danny in the middle but I've recently came to the conclusion that our CF won't score much cause our service is poor.
  
• Arrogant towards the help of others. Interesting point
  
• And stating he needs no support from his team but only the owners.I think he mean't players that don't support his "project"
  

For transfer I remember one of the board members (I think it was Gourlay) stating that they had to discuss transfer target with AVB when he came back from tour on Asia.

So while he was "assessing" his squad, there was no movement for nobody. And no movement continue till the second game of the PL....pathetic really!

[Henrique 9,133]

The only "sin" or whatever for me is the first two, the rest are not that big of a deal.

Lack of youth integration was his major sin, and saying he is only concerned about what players think, is not a good way to build a team, right?

[Sheva. 5,373]

Lack of youth integration was his major sin, and saying he is only concerned about what players think, is not a good way to build a team, right?

Youth integration is tougher to do when you need to get results, almost any manager would opt for the experienced players - Carlo did the same.

And let's not forget he only played McEachran because we basically had no other options.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Youth integration is tougher to do when you need to get results, almost any manager would opt for the experienced players - Carlo did the same.

And let's not forget he only played McEachran because we were so depleted in Midfield.

I don't think you need to get results, when the owner backs you "unconditionally"

[Sheva. 5,373]

I don't think you need to get results, when the owner backs you "unconditionally"

That can only go on for so long if you don't start getting some good results.

[manpe 10,861]

I don't think you need to get results, when the owner backs you "unconditionally"

I think it was a mistake for AVB to use the word unconditional. He seemed to think for a bit and then go for what's best for him, even though it might not be true.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

That can only go on for so long if you don't start getting some good results.

Agreed, but his mandate was to change the team. Take out the dead wood, and bring a "youthful flair" into our game.

7 months in and I am still waiting to see that "flair" of youth into our team. Cause we sure haven't improve in style...

[Badboy 1,526]

I dislike the fact that even when we have a major lack of creativity in midfield he's ignored Josh.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

I dislike the fact that even when we have a major lack of creativity in midfield he's ignored Josh.

Well he also send out Yossi on loan.

I still remember to be dumb fucked at that idea.

And now it seems that AVB has got a new Lampard. Meireles, that seems to play every game full 90 mins, just like Lampard used to do....sigh

[manpe 10,861]

I dislike the fact that even when we have a major lack of creativity in midfield he's ignored Josh.

And loaned out Benayoun. Looking at how things are now, the more puzzling that decision seems. We thought we made room for a new signing, but it seems that signing ended up being Meireles.

[Ortiv 42]

All I can see here is that player power, demanding fan base and an inept board are all combining to make "world class" managers look clueless in Chelsea.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

Possibly because John Cross is a die-hard Arsenal STH

doesn't make his points any less valid

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

Everything about AVB is hopeless. He hasn't got a plan B, his man management skills are woeful and his media handling skills are even worse.

But he hasn't done any sin; he just made a whole lot of rookie mistakes. At least some of them are. Other mistakes are what even experienced managers (e.g. Carlo) can make.

The biggest sin anyone's committed regarding our current crisis was to sack one of the greatest managers in the world and bring in a newbie to replace him, thinking he'd do any better.