Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Ive stated many times that i want avb to stay, and I stand by that. However I'm not felin that anger that I usually get after a lost or bad run of games. Just empty and like in a standstill. The weeks are becomin longer and longer with each article on the future of avb. In all honesty I feel soooo bad for the guy. yea he's made mistakes but who in the hell could have predicted this.if he gets fired I hope he wins big time and wins 2 champions leagues and come back to epl and wins some trophies. What a dispicable way to treat your boss. And yeah he's made mistakes, and big ones too, but GREAT teams fight through that. GREAT teams use individual brilliance to change a game that has not been goin in their direction. We're drasticly slipping away from that . IN AVB I TRUST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I seriously hope Guardiola isn't appointed in the summer, as AVB would go somewhere else, like Inter (as the Porto president said) and probably be successful. As good as Guardiola's tactics are I don't think our current squad is capable of playing "total football" ... we still lack creativity for when clubs go all defensive against us, we cannot just rely on Mata. If Guardiola was appointed, would the senior players even listen to him? Everyone at Barca seem to just want to listen by the looks of their performances, maybe not this season but last season they where terrific bar the diving. I also seen a report saying AVB is only being backed by David Luiz, Ramires and Bosingwa... this just shows how big some of the current egos in the dressing room are. So if appointed what chance has Guardiola got to turn things around?If AVB is giving time, to reshape the squad to his liking, which I am sure he probably wished he done a bit earlier knowing what would of happened, he will be successful. The club needs players that want to prove themselves on a bigger stage and actually want to play for Chelsea, unlike half the idiots who put in half heart'd performances knowing they have basically achieved all they can. I think we have been lucky and unlucky, that only this year, we've seen that the squad is not capable of playing as they were a few years ago and hopefully we can get more younger, talented players in the team and personally I think AVB is more than capable of that. His Porto team from last year for example, yes he didn't sign them all but players like Moutinho, Hulk, Varela, Perreria and Falcao gained huge recognition from their successful campaign last season and they have/will move on to better things soon enough. We as a club, just need to stick with him and I'm more than sure Roman will give him this season and next at least to show why he is the right man for the job.Also the players efforts have been pathetic of late so it should be them who suffer instead of the manager, all he can do is give them tactics, hoping they put a good team performance in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 All im saying is that if AVB gets the sack, I won't support Chelsea anymore.Totally unnecessary and uncalled for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 with Malouda, Lampard, Raul, Ramires and Mikel Guardiola would look like a piece of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 with Malouda, Lampard, Raul, Ramires and Mikel Guardiola would look like a piece of shitYou must be smoking the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 You must be smoking the good stuff.I think he means that with that midfield which is totally devoid of any creativity whatsoever, Guardiola wouldn't be able to implement his style of football either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 You must be smoking the good stuff.So you think lampard has the talent to implement guardiola's idea of playing free-flowing creative football ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 So you think lampard has the talent to implement guardiola's idea of playing free-flowing creative football ?????Why even talk about Guardiola,he will never manage us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hear me out. I starting supporting Chelsea since last year. I've always loved football but have never really supported any team throughout my young life. I know a lot about post 08 Chelsea but that's about it. I'm not going to say that I know a lot about Chelsea before 2008, because I didn't follow them or have any interest in them, or any other team for that matter. You can call me plastic all you want but I'm not a plastic. I didn't follow Chelsea because they were always winning (They weren't winning anything when I started supporting them), I followed them because I thought they were a stable and interesting club. I've always read about player power at Chelsea but never believed it. I'm starting to now. I want to follow a club where the manager isn't sacked every season (a la Ancelotti) and a club that isn't a circus at times. If AVB is sacked, then Chelsea is indeed a circus and I'll stop supporting them and get on with my life.No offence mate but your reasoning in your own words behind why your a fan, your not a supporter, and not a plastic makes you sound even more like a johnny come lately, I personally could never understand supporting a team that are in another country from myself, have no attachment to on a local/family level I know that might sound elitist but how can someone from china/australia/malaysia/dubai etc have the same kind of support/emotional ties in a club compared to somebody who grew up in what would be considered the clubs catchment area? Im not saying all foreign fans are not as important as local ones but people like swedish house mafia hardly give them a good name.No matter how bad the football is, no matter how poorly the club is run, no matter what league we play in I will always and only support chelsea fc, I dont know any different that was the way I was brought up thats the way Im bringing my son up, your football team is something ingrained on you from an early age in england and once it is, its there for life, kinda like a marriage without the divorce option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 No offence mate but your reasoning in your own words behind why your a fan, your not a supporter, and not a plastic makes you sound even more like a johnny come lately, I personally could never understand supporting a team that are in another country from myself, have no attachment to on a local/family level I know that might sound elitist but how can someone from china/australia/malaysia/dubai etc have the same kind of support/emotional ties in a club compared to somebody who grew up in what would be considered the clubs catchment area? Im not saying all foreign fans are not as important as local ones but people like swedish house mafia hardly give them a good name.I was not a supporter of any team until 1998 when Chelsea beat Stuttgart, i fell in love with they're attitude on the pitch.5 years after that I was in London and visited all stadiums, inclueding the Highburry, I was just amazed of SB, it was on an CL Matchday when I came over there , of course i didn't get any tickets but the voice of the fans was buzzing and electrifying... I was sitting in an McDonald's near by SB (is it still there? couldn't find it on my 3 last visits) and we where just hearing the crowd singing and chanting...and since then I new what my team was to support....so mate... not everybody is plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 With more and more bad result, it is getting harder to defend avb butI just don't see any available manager out there that can help us go through this transition period easier- Rafa : ------ Ray : I still don't know why he was firedSo let's just support our manager at least till the end of this year (year not season) Let avb reform our squad this summer and if we are still suck in December, I really have not problem in sacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I was not a supporter of any team until 1998 when Chelsea beat Stuttgart, i fell in love with they're attitude on the pitch.5 years after that I was in London and visited all stadiums, inclueding the Highburry, I was just amazed of SB, it was on an CL Matchday when I came over there , of course i didn't get any tickets but the voice of the fans was buzzing and electrifying... I was sitting in an McDonald's near by SB (is it still there? couldn't find it on my 3 last visits) and we where just hearing the crowd singing and chanting...and since then I new what my team was to support....so mate... not everybody is plastic Most definately, not every foreign fan can be tarred with the same brush, its just people like swedish house mafia dont exactly help break the stigma of foreign fans not being as committed, the common view in england on asian fans (especially) is that they support the team whom is winning the most league titles, and that view is backed up when you consider how much our 'fan' base has grown in asia during the roman era, now its citys turn now to get about 50-100m new 'fans' over night I expect them to 'come out' on the 14th may Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Most definately, not every foreign fan can be tarred with the same brush, its just people like swedish house mafia dont exactly help break the stigma of foreign fans not being as committed, the common view in england on asian fans (especially) is that they support the team whom is winning the most league titles, and that view is backed up when you consider how much our 'fan' base has grown in asia during the roman era, now its citys turn now to get about 50-100m new 'fans' over night I expect them to 'come out' on the 14th mayI'm sorry, but that's just the silliest stereotype I've ever heard. Most English Chelsea fans support the team based ideology or family heritage, but it is normal for the majority of foreign supporters to be Chelsea fans due to the team's performance. But why point out Asians? Why not south Americans or Africans for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 http://bcove.me/hiqrmm9xAnd people who say they won't support Chelsea because Roman firing AVB, is not plastic fans!Plastic fans would be those jumping ship when Chelsea lost the CL against United.What some people can't stand is the circus that this club has turn into by the people that run this club.When things like this happens that you have a bunch of fools running your club, you don't stop becoming a fan all total but you boycott the club.I seen it happen where fans stop watching games and going to games. This will force the owner and the board to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I'm sorry, but that's just the silliest stereotype I've ever heard. Most English Chelsea fans support the team based ideology or family heritage, but it is normal for the majority of foreign supporters to be Chelsea fans due to the team's performance. But why point out Asians? Why not south Americans or Africans for instance?Like I said in england it is commonly thought, rightly or wrongly, that the asian continent in bulk supports man utd, south americans support barcelona, africans support us, that tottenham have a high jewish following, arsenal have a large percentage of black supporters and that we have alot of wealthy fans that would be the typical answer from your average football fan that comes from england. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Like I said in england it is commonly thought, rightly or wrongly, that the asian continent in bulk supports man utd, south americans support barcelona, africans support us, that tottenham have a high jewish following, arsenal have a large percentage of black supporters and that we have alot of wealthy fans that would be the typical answer from your average football fan that comes from england. As an Asian, you are kinda right. Although it's probably 50-50 between Utd and Liverpool. Liverpool have a huge fanbase here, especially among those in their 40s and 50s as they were in their teens or early 20s when Liverpool were the dominant force in England. The younger generation mainly support Utd, unless they have family members that have liverpool ties.And while I don't like the stereotype, I can admit that it's a stereotype for a reason. I'd say about 50-70% of the football watchers here are plastic. They either claim to support a particular team but don't watch the matches at all. They only follow the results and wear Utd/Liverpool jerseys after a big win ( ). And then there are the few that change teams every few years based on who's successful at the moment.However, there are also quite a few loyal fans, that support the clubs through thick and thin. They experience the same emotions that you experience and it's unfair that they (and myself) get lumped into the category of "plastic Asian fan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 http://bcove.me/hiqrmm9xAnd people who say they won't support Chelsea because Roman firing AVB, is not plastic fans!Plastic fans would be those jumping ship when Chelsea lost the CL against United.What some people can't stand is the circus that this club has turn into by the people that run this club.When things like this happens that you have a bunch of fools running your club, you don't stop becoming a fan all total but you boycott the club.I seen it happen where fans stop watching games and going to games. This will force the owner and the board to change.If you think for one second what the club is going through now is bad then do abit of research about chelsea in the early eightys, that is bad, boycotting the club because your not happy with something is one thing, I personally would only follow our results if rafa benitez ever became our gaffer till he was sacked I certainly wouldnt stop supporting the club though, but to say like swedish house mafia that they will support someone else because they dont like the way things are currently panning out stinks of being a johnny come lately who has no attachment to the club, a real supporter rides the rough with the smooth (regardless of what country they are from). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 If you think for one second what the club is going through now is bad then do abit of research about chelsea in the early eightys, that is bad, boycotting the club because your not happy with something is one thing, I personally would only follow our results if rafa benitez ever became our gaffer till he was sacked I certainly wouldnt stop supporting the club though, but to say like swedish house mafia that they will support someone else because they dont like the way things are currently panning out stinks of being a johnny come lately who has no attachment to the club, a real supporter rides the rough with the smooth (regardless of what country they are from).Oh if he said he will support another team, then that's bad.But not wanting to watch Chelsea match till some of these fools leave I can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 As an Asian, you are kinda right. Although it's probably 50-50 between Utd and Liverpool. Liverpool have a huge fanbase here, especially among those in their 40s and 50s as they were in their teens or early 20s when Liverpool were the dominant force in England. The younger generation mainly support Utd, unless they have family members that have liverpool ties.And while I don't like the stereotype, I can admit that it's a stereotype for a reason. I'd say about 50-70% of the football watchers here are plastic. They either claim to support a particular team but don't watch the matches at all. They only follow the results and wear Utd/Liverpool jerseys after a big win ( ). And then there are the few that change teams every few years based on who's successful at the moment.However, there are also quite a few loyal fans, that support the clubs through thick and thin. They experience the same emotions that you experience and it's unfair that they (and myself) get lumped into the category of "plastic Asian fan".Exactly mate, not every foreign fan is a plastic johnny come lately, but there are enough to make the stereotype stick, if a person can change the club they 'support' than they are not a real supporter merely a fan of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I love the support that many are givin avb but sucks is that we aren't the ones at the game!!!!! Man, how I'd let avb know we're behind him! But what scares me Is all the stock we're putting in to next season. Yes we may be better with new signings and all but we're not gona win automatically. The new team will need time to gel. I'm not tryin to be a downer by any means but it seems that we're setting him up to fail. We can win some things nbut let's not shoot for the moon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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