Chelsea Sack Andre Villas-Boas

[communicate 2,703]

With more and more bad result, it is getting harder to defend avb

but

I just don't see any available manager out there that can help us go through this transition period easier

- Rafa : -----

- Ray : I still don't know why he was fired

So let's just support our manager at least till the end of this year (year not season)

Let avb reform our squad this summer and if we are still suck in December, I really have not problem in sacking him.

[strong centreback 157]

I was not a supporter of any team until 1998 when Chelsea beat Stuttgart, i fell in love with they're attitude on the pitch.

5 years after that I was in London and visited all stadiums, inclueding the Highburry, I was just amazed of SB, it was on an CL Matchday when I came over there , of course i didn't get any tickets but the voice of the fans was buzzing and electrifying... I was sitting in an McDonald's near by SB (is it still there? couldn't find it on my 3 last visits) and we where just hearing the crowd singing and chanting...

and since then I new what my team was to support....

so mate... not everybody is plastic

Most definately, not every foreign fan can be tarred with the same brush, its just people like swedish house mafia dont exactly help break the stigma of foreign fans not being as committed, the common view in england on asian fans (especially) is that they support the team whom is winning the most league titles, and that view is backed up when you consider how much our 'fan' base has grown in asia during the roman era, now its citys turn now to get about 50-100m new 'fans' over night I expect them to 'come out' on the 14th may

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Most definately, not every foreign fan can be tarred with the same brush, its just people like swedish house mafia dont exactly help break the stigma of foreign fans not being as committed, the common view in england on asian fans (especially) is that they support the team whom is winning the most league titles, and that view is backed up when you consider how much our 'fan' base has grown in asia during the roman era, now its citys turn now to get about 50-100m new 'fans' over night I expect them to 'come out' on the 14th may

I'm sorry, but that's just the silliest stereotype I've ever heard. Most English Chelsea fans support the team based ideology or family heritage, but it is normal for the majority of foreign supporters to be Chelsea fans due to the team's performance. But why point out Asians? Why not south Americans or Africans for instance?

[Fernando 6,465]

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And people who say they won't support Chelsea because Roman firing AVB, is not plastic fans!

Plastic fans would be those jumping ship when Chelsea lost the CL against United.

What some people can't stand is the circus that this club has turn into by the people that run this club.

When things like this happens that you have a bunch of fools running your club, you don't stop becoming a fan all total but you boycott the club.

I seen it happen where fans stop watching games and going to games. This will force the owner and the board to change.

[strong centreback 157]

I'm sorry, but that's just the silliest stereotype I've ever heard. Most English Chelsea fans support the team based ideology or family heritage, but it is normal for the majority of foreign supporters to be Chelsea fans due to the team's performance. But why point out Asians? Why not south Americans or Africans for instance?

Like I said in england it is commonly thought, rightly or wrongly, that the asian continent in bulk supports man utd, south americans support barcelona, africans support us, that tottenham have a high jewish following, arsenal have a large percentage of black supporters and that we have alot of wealthy fans that would be the typical answer from your average football fan that comes from england.

[francozola 2,040]

Like I said in england it is commonly thought, rightly or wrongly, that the asian continent in bulk supports man utd, south americans support barcelona, africans support us, that tottenham have a high jewish following, arsenal have a large percentage of black supporters and that we have alot of wealthy fans that would be the typical answer from your average football fan that comes from england.

As an Asian, you are kinda right. Although it's probably 50-50 between Utd and Liverpool. Liverpool have a huge fanbase here, especially among those in their 40s and 50s as they were in their teens or early 20s when Liverpool were the dominant force in England. The younger generation mainly support Utd, unless they have family members that have liverpool ties.

And while I don't like the stereotype, I can admit that it's a stereotype for a reason. I'd say about 50-70% of the football watchers here are plastic. They either claim to support a particular team but don't watch the matches at all. They only follow the results and wear Utd/Liverpool jerseys after a big win ( ). And then there are the few that change teams every few years based on who's successful at the moment.

However, there are also quite a few loyal fans, that support the clubs through thick and thin. They experience the same emotions that you experience and it's unfair that they (and myself) get lumped into the category of "plastic Asian fan".

[strong centreback 157]

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And people who say they won't support Chelsea because Roman firing AVB, is not plastic fans!

Plastic fans would be those jumping ship when Chelsea lost the CL against United.

What some people can't stand is the circus that this club has turn into by the people that run this club.

When things like this happens that you have a bunch of fools running your club, you don't stop becoming a fan all total but you boycott the club.

I seen it happen where fans stop watching games and going to games. This will force the owner and the board to change.

If you think for one second what the club is going through now is bad then do abit of research about chelsea in the early eightys, that is bad, boycotting the club because your not happy with something is one thing, I personally would only follow our results if rafa benitez ever became our gaffer till he was sacked I certainly wouldnt stop supporting the club though, but to say like swedish house mafia that they will support someone else because they dont like the way things are currently panning out stinks of being a johnny come lately who has no attachment to the club, a real supporter rides the rough with the smooth (regardless of what country they are from).

[Fernando 6,465]

If you think for one second what the club is going through now is bad then do abit of research about chelsea in the early eightys, that is bad, boycotting the club because your not happy with something is one thing, I personally would only follow our results if rafa benitez ever became our gaffer till he was sacked I certainly wouldnt stop supporting the club though, but to say like swedish house mafia that they will support someone else because they dont like the way things are currently panning out stinks of being a johnny come lately who has no attachment to the club, a real supporter rides the rough with the smooth (regardless of what country they are from).

Oh if he said he will support another team, then that's bad.

But not wanting to watch Chelsea match till some of these fools leave I can understand.

[strong centreback 157]

As an Asian, you are kinda right. Although it's probably 50-50 between Utd and Liverpool. Liverpool have a huge fanbase here, especially among those in their 40s and 50s as they were in their teens or early 20s when Liverpool were the dominant force in England. The younger generation mainly support Utd, unless they have family members that have liverpool ties.

And while I don't like the stereotype, I can admit that it's a stereotype for a reason. I'd say about 50-70% of the football watchers here are plastic. They either claim to support a particular team but don't watch the matches at all. They only follow the results and wear Utd/Liverpool jerseys after a big win ( ). And then there are the few that change teams every few years based on who's successful at the moment.

However, there are also quite a few loyal fans, that support the clubs through thick and thin. They experience the same emotions that you experience and it's unfair that they (and myself) get lumped into the category of "plastic Asian fan".

Exactly mate, not every foreign fan is a plastic johnny come lately, but there are enough to make the stereotype stick, if a person can change the club they 'support' than they are not a real supporter merely a fan of football.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I love the support that many are givin avb but sucks is that we aren't the ones at the game!!!!! Man, how I'd let avb know we're behind him! But what scares me Is all the stock we're putting in to next season. Yes we may be better with new signings and all but we're not gona win automatically. The new team will need time to gel. I'm not tryin to be a downer by any means but it seems that we're setting him up to fail. We can win some things nbut let's not shoot for the moon!

[zolayes 14,489]

I expect much better results and performances in 3 years time . Just hope Im here to see it and Roman is as patient.

[Fernando 6,465]

Andre Villas-Boas needs new ideas fast or he will become merely an expensive footnote in Chelsea's history

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9091269/Andre-Villas-Boas-needs-new-ideas-fast-or-he-will-become-merely-an-expensive-footnote-in-Chelseas-history.html

Another good read.

[Chelsea? 892]

Lampard has become me least favorite player in the sports world at the moment. He ignored avb in the B'ham game? I hope he's not trying to implement another one of our "get coach sacked" craps. next to getting Hazard/Di Maria, selling Lampard is one of my most desired transfers.

[Liquidator 5,176]

In the sub topic of plastic fans:

Its the people on the chelseafc facebook page who just spout rubbish who get my goat. There is a status say about ticket news and you get some idiots commenting 'Chelsea in my heart forever go blues!' it has nothing to do with tickets does it?

AVB:

I don't really support him now because I just don't think at this age he is ready. I do feel very sorry for him though because he has clearly bitten off more than he can chew but probably does not want to resign because Roman has paid £13m for him and AVB is confident in himself and has a strong desire to succeed. He knows that he has jumped ahead too early and does not have the experience or knowledge to deal with a club with ridiculous expectations of every manager, stupid board members and players who think they own the club. Villas-Boas is doing his best and what he thinks is right for the team and I admire him for showing balls and not letting the players run the club like Ancelotti did but at the moment he is just not ready. I like him and think he will be a great manager in a few years but at 34 years of age he should not be here.

[Gianfranco_Z 202]

Fully behind him. Sack the players that aren't. Simple. AVB could be our SAF, given time to build his own team without the selfish spoilt brats in our dressing room poisoning the club from the inside. Or watch him go somewhere else and in a couple of years they will be a force. A bad manager doesn't win the Portugese league title, respective domestic cup and the EUROPA League... Think about it. I have no doubt in my mind that AVB is the future of our club and I am more than happy with that.

I'm less than happy with the fans that think we're playing a game of Football Manager on the PC and want instant success. We're going to have to rebuild and it's going to take some time, we need to be realistic about this and get behind the club.

[Tomo 21,733]

Do we really want our well fed past it players to win again? they did this under Scolari but at least back then they had something to offer and were at their peak, now there past it and still think their managers? fuck off.

Any player disrespecting AVB can leave, whoever it is, some will say that is "disrespecting" club legend's but acting up and sulking is hardly showing our club any respect is it? and as far as im concerned Chelsea FC > any player.

[Laylabelle 9,359]

Do we really want our well fed past it players to win again? they did this under Scolari but at least back then they had something to offer and were at their peak, now there past it and still think their managers? fuck off.

Any player disrespecting AVB can leave, whoever it is, some will say that is "disrespecting" club legend's but acting up and sulking is hardly showing our club any respect is it? and as far as im concerned Chelsea FC > any player.

Exactly,get rid of the manager but if the problem players are still there,there is nothing to stop it happening again and left in same postion!It has happened several times in the past and is crazy! Its not showing anyone respect,manager,club or fans really.

[Henri 115]

If the board sacks AVB now it would be not only an absoloutly poor decesion but would also send a wrong message, in may aspects. First of all it would show that they are clueless. Everyone knew that AVB is the a young, bright but unexpierienced coach compared to others. Sack him now would mean "ah we didn´t know that there was a risk". Secondly we will never ever build something for the longterm. We will be like Real Madrid just without the trophys, clinging onto powerfull players, a good but short phase in the past. I don´t want that. I´d rather take two shit seasons but increasing process of positives than a new manager, who isn´t a guarantee for success either. Ancelotti all over again, not to mention that i think it is a fucking disgrace how they treated him. Could´ve given him the time of his contract, let AVB gather more experience and then thinking about a shake up. But anyways, coming my most and surely everyone with a clear view´s point: Sacking AVB would make the players getting away with it. Absoloutly underperforming and still be rewarded. "Oh no, it´s the manager´s and not the player´s fault, we did everything we could". Watching Lampard playing yesterday was absoloutly shocking. He had a brilliant carreer, but sadly it isn´t one that is fading out quietly but rather burning out quickly. That is alright, that happens in footall as in life in general sadly, but not being honest about in adapting your game (like Scholes) and trying to find a new position in the team is just a big ego´s way of doing it. Don´t get me wrong, I think Lamps did everything to the club and the fans to satisfy him in the past but times are a-changing, to quote Mr. Bob Dylan. I certainly don´t want to single out Frank for what is going wrong at the moment, it is just a pattern for our situtation.

We spoke a lot about Malouda, Anelka and so on. Their attitude in the games have been shocking on an whole different level but carelessness is the outcome in both cases. Letting the players get away with their behavior would just deepen the rot in our squad and let them get even more lazier. The way AVB treated Alex and Anelka is obviously not good in man to man management. I would be fucking furious if my boss would speak to me like that. But then again the football scenery is different. Anyway, it had him sent out a strong message which seemed to work for while, but then the sloppyness came back. I don´t know how much a manager can do if the players don´t do what they are good at. If they would perfom subsitution logic wouldn´t have such a big impact i think. Not taking anything away from the fact that the right substitions will send out a message and win you games, but when the players on the pitch are not performing they way the did before (Sturridge, Lamps, Malouda, etc) then what will three Subs change if the rest is still as lethargic as before ?

And to a whole different point: Bringing back Mourinho ? Get his signings out and start something new ! New is always more exciting and better, if you ask me.

I am not a traditionalist but certainly a fan of José, but those days are over and there is a chance in every new beginning. But if some fans are not patient enough and expect a total shake up after 7 months of what he been going for almost 6 years, that is just poor judgement and not really good knowledge about the game.

For fucks sake, sometimes I wonder why people support a certain Football Club when all they do is moan and not being very helpful and their analyses. It seems that their lives depend on how the board runs their favourite set of shirts. Don´t get me wrong again, I love Chelsea Football Club and take every defeat on the chin as long as the players do the same and react to what happens. But I don´t let my judgement be fooled by the mist of impatience.

You got some good points. But what i "like" about our current situation is that it so clear shows that we a lead but idiots all over!.

I knew that Boas was Abramovich last move, he is fucked up for good now!. Why do you think he stuck with him, he has no other

choice, idiot. Boas, no he is absolutely no bright talent, and i tell you the future will tell. By the way dont anybody come with build

some new thing Bullshit you dont Abramovich then!.