Randall 315 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 The way most of them are playing, yes we honestly should. Why should the manager be held accountable for our every failure? He can only do so much to help the team and they are the ones who need to go out and get the result. Sometimes the players play without any passion whatsoever and it is not fair that the manager gets the blame for thatI agree on the playes part. But you gotta be realistic, if a team dont peform there is only one man or woman who will get the blame=COACH. I question Boas, does he has authority and respect among theplayers, can he motivate them?. Dont you think you got your answer?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I would rather say its time to look forward. How do we get rid of Boas without Abramovich stand back as the bigest idiot of all club owners in PL?.Maybe we are so lucky he gets tired of us and wants to sell?, just kidding or dreaming?. By the way Ancelotti was a good coach, but lets not get tohigh on memory, even he made some big mistake like all coaches do.Well I tell you that the moment we sack AVB we will be the biggest fool in the entire history!Sack Carlo for 15M to get AVB for 13M and then to sack him and pay some other compesation.....Sorry but that is ridiculous like what Madrid does.There will be no defending of Chelsea from me on that part, if that takes place.Because if that happens it shows we are run by an owner that uses Chelsea as it's play thing. squeeze out the last bit of what left of our player, and to be fair we won double That is dumb business. Why pay so much money just for one or two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Well I tell you that the moment we sack AVB we will the biggest fool in the entire history!Sack Carlo for 15M to get AVB for 13M and then to sack him and pay some other compesation.....Sorry but that is riducilues like what Madrid does.There will be no defending of Chelsea from me on that part, if that takes place.Because if that happens it shows we are run by an owner that uses Chelsea as it's play thing.That is stupid. So why pay so much money just for one or two years?I really dislike Roman empire but im honest enough to say i think he really loves Chelsea.But you should not let money rule your way of thinking football, Roman can do that. Hedoesnt think twice about sacking people, but the problem is for him he really looks likea complete idiot if he sacks Boas + the Torres deal. So can he accept losing face orsay goodbye to Cl football?. But money has never been the issue for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 No. Worst descision in years by the board if they sacked him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I really dislike Roman empire but im honest enough to say i think he really loves Chelsea.But you should not let money rule your way of thinking football, Roman can do that. Hedoesnt think twice about sacking people, but the problem is for him he really looks likea complete idiot if he sacks Boas + the Torres deal. So can he accept losing face orsay goodbye to Cl football?. But money has never been the issue for him.And you have a point.Roman is a big baby with a big ego.It will be hard to see him say I'm sorry or I was wrong.Including when we knew he was dead wrong about firing Mourinho. Yet he won't admit it publicly.It is why I think more likely he will keep him even if we fail to get into CL. Cause there is always next year......Why do you think we bought so many young players?Get rid of the dead wood this summer and then let the players like Lukaku, KDB play for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Untill now I was not sure, after today's game I have no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 And you have a point.Roman is a big baby with a big ego.It will be hard to see him say I'm sorry or I was wrong.Including when we knew he was dead wrong about firing Mourinho. Yet he won't admit it publicly.It is why I think more likely he will keep him even if we fail to get into CL. Cause there is always next year......Why do you think we bought so many young players?Get rid of the dead wood this summer and then let the players like Lukaku, KDB play for it. Good point about young players - future,, but i would really be suprised if he accept us not qualify for CL?Lets see what happen if we failure (god forbid) in CL and FA?. By the way were are not handling thegetting rid of dead wood very good, should have done that in the summer, right Boas?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Good point about young players - future,, but i would really be suprised if he accept us not qualify for CL?Lets see what happen if we failure (god forbid) in CL and FA?. By the way were are not handling thegetting rid of dead wood very good, should have done that in the summer, right Boas?.He should have, but no new manager actually gets rid of so many players, on an establish team. Mourinho did it because Chelsea where not establish.When he went to Inter and now Madrid he did not do that.With an establish team you have to give the players you have a try and see what they got.It is why AVB is now talking about next season project. Expect some dead wood to leave and new players in, or more youth if we don't get 4th place and can't attract top players that season....But even then I don't think this will give too much weight with top prospect like Hazard, Lucas and such because they will know they will play CL next season, and will get good wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 There is no point sacking AVB if we're just gana carry on into next season with the same squad..main issue needs to be sorted first and thats get rid of the players who clearly dont give a crap! Otherwise we're just gana have the same problem no matter whose in charge...to be honest the main problem is the players! They are are capeable of putting on a performance,all know what they have to do!And yet only seem to turn up for the odd game..Man U last week things were fine!So god knows what went on today if they looked at it and thought 'only Everton' or what happened.Ahh if only Webb hadnt fucked up last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idiot 71 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 sacking him would be our normal reaction but thats why we are in the present situation... Stick to the coach and let him grow with the Team... Even a year or two without UCL wouldnt kill us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 AVB is not who I thought he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Good point about young players - future,, but i would really be suprised if he accept us not qualify for CL?Lets see what happen if we failure (god forbid) in CL and FA?. By the way were are not handling thegetting rid of dead wood very good, should have done that in the summer, right Boas?.Get rid of them how exactly? Drogba, Kalou, Malouda, Lampard etc are all on stupid money that they wouldn't get anywhere other than Russia or China so i'n sure they are happy to just see out their contracts here. Until their contracts run down (most of which is in the summer right?) we can't bring in people on large wages. I imagine this is why AVB believes next year will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 sacking him would be our normal reaction but thats why we are in the present situation... Stick to the coach and let him grow with the Team... Even a year or two without UCL wouldnt kill us...I remember reading somewhere where Platini said he will take into consideration teams that fail to qualify to the CL for terms of money to break even with the rules....So yes in theory one season would not be bad. But two season, then that's bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Get rid of them how exactly? Drogba, Kalou, Malouda, Lampard etc are all on stupid money that they wouldn't get anywhere other than Russia or China so i'n sure they are happy to just see out their contracts here. Until their contracts run down (most of which is in the summer right?) we can't bring in people on large wages.I imagine this is why AVB believes next year will be better.The first thing your will have to do as a coach is getting information about your team (what did he tell us in the summer, the team is good and strong...).Then selecting which player your want to keep, and those you dont want to keep your telling there service are no longer needed in this club, ( and yesthey maybe will sitting on the bench and rotten up, but thats not a coaches problem, but the board and owners!).Bying players with quality isnt onlyabout prize tacket. How many new players has he used?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 There is no point sacking AVB if we're just gana carry on into next season with the same squad..main issue needs to be sorted first and thats get rid of the players who clearly dont give a crap! Otherwise we're just gana have the same problem no matter whose in charge...to be honest the main problem is the players! They are are capeable of putting on a performance,all know what they have to do!And yet only seem to turn up for the odd game..Man U last week things were fine!So god knows what went on today if they looked at it and thought 'only Everton' or what happened.Ahh if only Webb hadnt fucked up last week...Thats right, but what would Fergie have done if Man U had peformed like that, he would let the axe swing!, Boas doesnt react!. He just play the same player no matter how bad they play. And a really point is finding outwhy they all play so bad?, thats the key and im sure Boas is the answer, and thats why he must be sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King11Didier 916 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I want to see fans like these more often:I want Jose back.Maybe it's impossible but I'm hoping to come and to be our manager for long time.I want him to be our Ferguoson to Chelsea.God some people were talking like this for AVB...The variants which I'd like to see are:1.AVB will end this season and after that Jose will come.OR2.Sack AVB soon and Hiddink or Cappello to come.I prefer the first variant.But I'm not the man who take these decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thats the thing at the start when they played crap..they got benched mean look at Lamps and co..so somehow the confidence to do that has been lostAnd yeah agree he needs to change things..needs to think sod it..needs to not worrying about upsetting the big names and egos and play the youngesters..or the ones who actually do care rather then playing the same crap week in week out cause they're not working.Hopfully today has opened his eyes fully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thats right, but what would Fergie have done if Man U had peformed like that, he would let the axe swing!, Boas doesnt react!. He just play the same player no matter how bad they play. And a really point is finding outwhy they all play so bad?, thatS the key and im sure Boas is the answer, and thats why he needed to be sack.I don't want to defend AVB but Fergie has so many option. He can play young,nani,valencia, or park on the wing and not only they are excellent winger but also they offer different skill. I don't see anybody in our bench that actually can come and change the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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