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the fact you visit the bridge has given you a false sense of superiority , BUFFON ... Now you are a medical expert as well .You talked of moving on but ypou are unable to resist you childish
digs at those you perceive responsible for Mourinho's dismissal .

probably not ..

What is the factual correction?

Please tell me this is sarcasm. I mean you can't actually be that stupid ?

looks as if he is in deep shit , Surprised Pat is more intelligent than that .

Sacking Mourinho could prove to be a good thing, even to some hardcore Mou admirers who didn't want him gone. To me too, as I was skeptical about his sacking. What's done is done, no need to analyze rights or wrongs anymore. Future is coming.
Appointing Hiddink as interim is IMO great first step. Giving him freedom and instructions to make changes, play some youth and neglected players as rumored. Maybe even giving some money to buy in January. He'll make things a lot easier to a new manager when he's gone.
We will see what second step will bring us or in other words, what will happen in summer.
It was really heartbreaking last couple of weeks, but things could stabilize now. So far so good.

Think he has every right to try to clear his name. It was a pretty stupid thing from Nevin to say and I actually adore Pat.

looks as if he is in deep shit , Surprised Pat is more intelligent than that .

looks as if he is in deep shit , Surprised Pat is more intelligent than that .

looks as if he is in deep shit , Surprised Pat is more intelligent than that .

I have never been to Stamford Bridge, let alone London or Europe for that matter. I follow Chelsea from all the way across the world in India, occasionally defying sleep and a healthy lifestyle but nevertheless I follow the club avidly. From an 'outsider's perspective', I notice a palpable discord in the reactions between the fans at the stadium and us, internet warriors, to Jose Mourinho's second unceremonious exit from Chelsea.
The Stamford Bridge faithful were clear in their verdict of the sacking, squarely blaming under-performing players, jeering Fabregas and Costa in particular when the team sheet was announced. Oscar and Matic similarly received mixed to negative reactions.Captain John Terry received no reaction lending a surreal and strange atmosphere at Stamford Bridge. It grew stranger. As Chelsea scored twice inside the first 13 minutes, the chants for Mourinho only grew louder. "Where were you when we were shit?" sang the crowd in a direct verbal assault on the players.
On the internet however, Jose Mourinho has descended to a figure of derision. An overwhelming majority, while still extending support for the man, have increasingly questioned his decisions. Support for the Special One has been dwindling since the summer when the club's transfer strategy was questioned and at the start of the season, when he launched an inexplicable attack on the club's doctor - Eva Carneiro - for a seemingly minor incident on the opening day of the season. On the pitch, things looked similarly bleak. A home win over 10-man Arsenal remains Chelsea's single significant win in the Premier League this season and If it wasn't for the emergence of Willian Beckham, Chelsea would probably be out of the Champions League as well.
The defeat at Leicester ultimately signalled the end for Mourinho. But the sacking was just the tip of the iceberg. An iceberg that started taking shape two years ago with the sale of Juan Mata - the first flash point decision by Mourinho that polarised the Chelsea fan base. Other players like Bertrand, De Bruyne, Lukaku, David Luiz and Cech have all left the club in the intervening two years and generally succeeded elsewhere. Of all the signings that have replaced them, can you call anyone apart from Matic, Zouma and Costa a raging success? Even Costa's success comes with an asterisk.
In 2013, when he triumphantly returned to the club, the Special One promised "to make the most of Chelsea's attacking riches". In his first interview back, he specifically mentioned Oscar, Hazard, de Bruyne and Lukaku noting how young the squad was this time around. Fans were romanticised by the idea of a long and fruitful second stint at the club where these players would go on to reach their undeniable potenial. With the exception of Hazard however, none of them realised their full potential here.
The Stamford Bridge faithful should let go of the idea of Jose Mourinho. The same way they should have let go of the idea of Roberto di Matteo in 2013. This is ofcourse much harder because it is Mourinho. He reserves a special connection with the club but bringing him back was an ill-fated attempt to revive an old love affair. It saddens me that it ended this way, abruptly and unceremoniously but now that the romance is finally dead, we have to embrace the change, as we have for the last ten years at the club. To me, the idea that Mourinho is absolved of all blame and that it is solely the players' fault does not make sense. Isn't that Mourinho's mandate? That he can handle players and unify squads? More importantly, they were his players, carefully handpicked over the last two years. If he ended up with rotten apples, then maybe, he should have stored them better.
Jose Mourinho is a club legend and will always remain the man who took Chelsea to the heights they enjoy today but now that he is gone, for the second time, I don't feel as devastated as I did back in 2007. No one is above the club. Not even Jose Mourinho.
At another turbulent time at the club, the appointment of Guus Hiddink is welcome. Even Didier Drogba and Eddie Newton are back.The club will slowly try and resurrect their shattered identity in the world of football and it needs the support of the fans to do that. Us internet warriors have no voice at the games but if you are at the Bridge and you are booing a Chelsea player, then you are booing a player picked by Jose Mourinho himself. It's time to let him go.
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mesmerizing performance. always has been a real prospect. Still only 20. So sad we will never have the patience with him but look at Barca. Talents there only are required to be good enough to start aged 22-24. The same time should be given to our academy graduates. Ake is best in DM and LB, not exactly positions we got too much quality and cover, so why not giving it a shot in 1-1.5 years?

So much so Scolari wanted him sold to make way for Adrano.
Crazy how different history could be right now.
Really hoping that several players are now given the platform to produce their best.

have you thought about players like Luis Remy internationals on the bench for a season
young players like Ake (2 years on the bench ) RLC 18 months and counting .. Lukaku and KDB were dumped for NOT being Yes men

This forum and fans in general are so fickle...just because media spreads some bullshit stories about Cesc or Hazard or Costa, the fans imediately jump on them as if there was clear evidence they are rats or whatever.
Whole team from Ivanovic to Matic to Hazard to Costa deliberately played worse than they can and its pretty much clear. But to throw shit at some of our players more than at others is just patethic. Im not a fan of Cesc for footballing reasons, but as long there will be no evidence I wouldnt throw shit at anyone.
Not at Eden, not at Cesc, not at Costa. Either boo all of them for underperforming or find some evidence ffs.

He doesn't need to hire a pr guy, he needs a personal trainer between the months of June and August.

you are so wrong ,, they were in the old 3rd division and had crowds over 30000 , Their fans deserve success ,, just as ours did ,

Pat had better be right or he could be in deep shit

The problem with Simeone is not the fact that he too is a coach that puts emphasis upon the defence and the hard work. The problem is that just as Mourinho he is the negative and aggressive kind of coach. That's not what we need. From the board to the fans, and most specifically the players, Chelsea needs positivity—Chelsea needs to enjoy football again, and not to grind results against the World.

you are so wrong ,, they were in the old 3rd division and had crowds over 30000 , Their fans deserve success ,, just as ours did ,

I dont know whether Pat Nevin has credible sources to make such insinuations, but the larger point is Mourinho is gone, whether he was sacked rightly or wrongly is a different issue. Once he is gone this whole mud slinging on who is to blame for the debacle is such a pointless activity. Now everyone gets a clean slate as Abramovich himself stated and it is only fair we also give it to the team.
On another note why isn't it possible for the team to just perform badly without any bad apples? It is sports for christsake every team goes through these phases. Sometimes things don't just add up like the plethora of ways we seem to discover this season in conceding cheap goals.
When the team starts performing again and trust me it will, the board will feel it was vindicated in its decision and we will once again move on for the nth time like the hypocrites that we are. And guess what will happen the new guy will also fail and the cycle will start again only this time with milder fan reactions as it is not Mourinho.
Manegerial Stability is so overrated these days the only stability that is necessary is in procuring trophies with high frequency and that we have managed, if not without a Sir Alex or a Wenger then so be it, I can live with that.

Pat had better be right or he could be in deep shit

And yet they're primed to win the league this season, look well positioned in Europe and have a great idea of who they want to take over next summer. Plus they have a fantastic infrastructure in place, a great academy and a growing stadium and fan base.
You quite within your rights to talk about short term thinking but I can honestly say I wouldn't follow such thinking in either my personal or professional life. Short-term aims are key, but you have to have long-term aims as well as measurable goals along the way.
They know exactly what they want to achieve this season and they went about doing it ruthlessly in the summer whilst we bodged every deal. You can dismiss them all you wish but let's see if you can do that next May.

A husk of a Club that has won more trophies than that shower of shite from Manchester.
They have spent way more than us and have barely scraped through in Europe, got done over by a bunch of pensioners playing for Yawn'ited, just laughable really...
I think you worry too much about having a long term plan, the world is very short term now, nothing is built to last.
None of us know how this will turn out, could be good, could be bad, but could be good, the only way to tell is live through it and it's easier to do that with a smile on your face...

Football is an incredible thing isn’t it? On 17th December 2015, José Mourinho joined an elite club of managers who have been sacked twice by the same club, 3 years after he was brought back from the abyss. Most recent cases pre-José will point to Liverpool icon Kenny Dalglish. Football is often a debate in comparisons, comparing both managers’ second tenure from their first shows a clear contrast. Where their first tenures were full of promise, excitement & sorrow when they ended, the homecoming wasn’t quite the romantic fairy-tale. José Mourinho was brought back by Chelsea with the full hope he would be there to guide the Blues to unprecedented levels of success while building a dynasty lasting over the normal 3-4 years.
Roman Abramovich and Chelsea’s “revolving door” policy has been well highlighted in the last decade, with the Blues going through no little than 8 managerial appointments in a little under 10 years since the oligarch bought the club from Ken Bates. After years of rekindling a damaged relationship, Abramovich thought he’d finally found a solution to the constant, tedious task of finding a new manager after 1-3 seasons. Only 1 manager, under the current Abramovich era, has lasted longer than 2 years at Chelsea and that’s Mourinho.
As a result, Chelsea have been vilified for having an unsustainable model. Critics often citing Arsene Wenger and Sir Alex Ferguson as case studies of why long-term managers yields long-term success. Yet, there’s no arguing that in the time Chelsea have hired and fired Mourinho twice, Chelsea have managed to win more titles (domestic and European) than Wenger has in his tenure. Which brings us to the question at hand, is longevity the myth that keeps on breathing?
On the evidence, it seems so. The last standing long-term manager left in the current game is Arsene Wenger, following Sir Alex Ferguson’s retirement in 2013. The Frenchman’s tenure now stretches over 19 years, approaching 20 in 2016. In that time, Wenger has won 3 Premier League titles, 6 FA Cups and 6 Community Shields. However, their last Premier League title came in 2003-04. Since then the emergence of both Manchester City and Chelsea have meant the success of Arsenal under Wenger has been curtailed.
With Louis Van Gaal expected to leave in 2017, it would mean the Dutch manager’s tenure would have lasted 3 years. Manchester United will be looking for their 3rd manager in 4 seasons by this point, something that would’ve never happened in the Sir Alex era. Currently after Wenger, the longest serving manager in the Premier League is Eddie Howe (3) of a Bournemouth team placed 14th in the League, followed by Mark Hughes (2) of a 10th placed Stoke City. In fact, in the last 20 years, only 7/20 clubs have made 10 or less managerial changes, suggesting the myth of longevity is on the decline within the Premier League.
But what about outside of the Premier League, does longevity prevail amongst the most successful teams? The answer, unsurprisingly, is no.
2010: Inter Milan (Mourinho 2 years)
2011: Barcelona (Guardiola 4 years)
2012: Chelsea (Di Matteo <1 year)
2013: Real Madrid (Ancelotti 2 years)
2014: Barcelona (Enrique 1 year*)
*still managing
Indeed, from the last 5 Champions league winning teams, only Guardiola has lasted longer than 3 years. This comes as no surprise either, upon winning the cup with Barcelona in 2011, Pep Guardiola said of his decision to leave FC Barcelona,

“The day I see the light go out of my players’ eyes, I’ll know it’s time to go.”
New managers bring about fresh approaches. Longevity worked for Sir Alex, because he was always able to get into the minds of his players and make sure his influence wasn’t diminishing. However, in the modern game not many managers can boast this feat. Certainly, José Mourinho’s second sacking by Chelsea has highlighted this. Reports of a ‘rat’ in the dressing room emerging in October seemed to have given insight into this. Subsequent behavioural problems by Costa and reports of an unhappy Fabregas proved to be the end of Mourinho, whether these claims are proven true or not. This author is firm in the belief that we will, one day, hear what went wrong from Jose himself.
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