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Forget the idealistic vision we have for AVB. If that CL spot is in jeopardy, we need to go back to ‘boring boring’ Chelsea and play to our strengths. With Financial fair play looming, we simply cannot afford to finish outside the Champions league places, it's that simple.

Far worse. AVB won't even let Josh go out on loan.

Or.. alternatively, offer an ivornian fringe player (who of which has only started 2 games this season) a new 90,000 a week contract.

Dark dark times ahead, 'End days' if you will, failing to finish in the top 4 (with the FFP coming into place) would be disastrous.

London.

Suarez, you winker wanker.

For those that don't know, that's pronounced 'Riza' not R.Z.A.

All that matters this season is sealing a CL place, and even that would be a miracle.

Big clubs don't seek revenge for 'league' defeats in a mickey mouse competition.

Pathetic ‘so called fans’ attempts at justifying this, it’s psychological, there is a demographic of supporters on here who want Chelsea to be unsuccessful. So they can boast and claim to be better fans, and label anyone who wishes to criticise as spoilt.

AVB also called himself "the shit one", I'm starting to think he meant that literally.

Scolari lost four of his 25 PL games before being fired, AVB has lost four of his 12.

It doesn't get much worse than this, big clubs don't see carling cup games as redemption for 'league' defeats. Smh.

I care, if that wasn't the case I wouldn't be so pissed. The club is in trouble now, it will be a miracle if we get CL football come the end of the season.

Unforgivable result, Naive-Boas is a fraud.

After this game, the only people defending Naive-Boas will be the ones who glee in an unsuccessful Chelsea. There are supporters on this forum, who want the club to fail, apparently it "seperates the men from the boys".. Smh.

The arsenal result was unforgivable, this is just.. And this is the same manager who says we don't need anyone in january! ..... Christ.

Roman needs to whitewash the entire squad, start over.

I still think Modric would have been the most important signing of the AVB era, even more so than Mata.

If we're 4-5 or worse come january there will be signings, whether Naive-Boas likes it or not.

I'm not surprised to see Malouda there, he's been all over the official site with his propaganda and manipulation techniques.

Losing to arsenal was unforgivable, this will be even worse.

If AVB only cared about the 3 points, we would be playing to our strengths instead of trying to be a poor mans Arsenal. This squad of players will never be able to adopt a new footballing philosophy.

^ Cheated with The keeper's financé is as much to blame if not more so, she deserves a death sentence.